Tech Gaming Hardware discussion (& Hardware Sales) thread

idrankyourbeer said:
no thanks. my 3 ugly ass noctua fans are the shit for performance and i will never replace them with anything but their own. i dont care how godawful these things look aesthetically, its all about performance my dude. they get the job done very well and run silent, and i have my computers so far out of the way that i never see what's in my cases anyways.

but fuck you and your RGB fans too!

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I thought the Noctua was great until I moved to water cooling
 
Woldog said:
I thought the Noctua was great until I moved to water cooling
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i've always been too paranoid about leaks or pump failures to go with water cooling.

i guess they are in a better place and alot more reliable these days. i'm still not sold on it though. as long as my temperatures are in check i'm not really concerned.

the noctua nh-d15 was pretty much the only feasible air cooling solution for my 11700k. this cpu can draw a stupid amount of power and it didnt gain any good publicity over that either. i've still never got it over 66 degrees while gaming so i'd say the noctua does a good enough job. i'll probably have to go with liquid cooling the next time around unless the higher end intel cpu's get a little more power efficient in time, but i just dont see that happening.
 
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idrankyourbeer said:
i've always been too paranoid about leaks or pump failures to go with water cooling.

i guess they are in a better place and alot more reliable these days. i'm still not sold on it though. as long as my temperatures are in check i'm not really concerned.

the noctua nh-d15 was pretty much the only feasible air cooling solution for my 11700k. this cpu can draw a stupid amount of power and it didnt gain any good publicity over that either. i've still never got it over 66 degrees while gaming so i'd say the noctua does a good enough job. i'll probably have to go with liquid cooling the next time around unless the higher end intel cpu's get a little more power efficient in time, but i just dont see that happening.
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I was paranoid of that, but nowadays most companies have guarantees to replace your components if it leaks.
I had a NH-d15 on my 7700k and it struggled to keep that bad boy cool, but still did the job.
 
Woldog said:
I was paranoid of that, but nowadays most companies have guarantees to replace your components if it leaks.
I had a NH-d15 on my 7700k and it struggled to keep that bad boy cool, but still did the job.
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the 7700k had a tendency to draw a stupid amount of heat. people had to ditch their beloved trusty old hyper 212 evo's and go noctua for that chip because it would run too hot, even before overclocking. though oddly enough, the nh-d15 is still more than adequate to cool a much newer 13700k while gaming, but for stress tests and big rendering jobs i think right now we're at the point where you practically need to go for liquid cooling if you want to run the newer i7 and i9 cpu's.
 
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idrankyourbeer said:
the 7700k had a tendency to draw a stupid amount of heat. people had to ditch their beloved trusty old hyper 212 evo's and go noctua for that chip because it would run too hot, even before overclocking.
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Mine was overclocked at 5ghz, whole crowds of people would come in off the street to watch my PC idle at 87degrees.
 
Woldog said:
Mine was overclocked at 5ghz, whole crowds of people would come in off the street to watch my PC idle at 87degrees.
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lol that is not normal at all. there's definately something wrong there. maybe the thermal paste dried out. that is completely abormal and i'd be taking my shit apart right there and then if it was happening.

i used to just use a negative offset for my vcore when i overclocked. that way after i found my stable voltage, i would apply the offset so it would be able to use the power saving features and have my my voltage and clock speeds drop down when the cpu was idling, and then ramp back up to my desired setting when in use. that way i wouldnt have to run my pc at full power and speed 24/7 when i didn't need to. to this day my old haswell is still going strong. but i've pretty much retired it as a secondary device that ive hooked my pvr up to so that i can watch tv and shit on the other screen or bang around on the internet while i'm doing stuff on my main pc

these days i dont even bother with manual overclocking and playing with the voltages and stuff. the new intel cpu's basically just do it themselves and boost up to whatever you set it to so long as you can give it enough power and keep the cooling in check. gpu's are even more simplified for overclocking these days. you just need to adjust the power limit and it'll ramp your boost clock up. the only thing you really need to play with is the memory clock/
 
idrankyourbeer said:
lol that is not normal at all. there's definately something wrong there. maybe the thermal paste dried out. that is completely abormal and i'd be taking my shit apart right there and then if it was happening.

i used to just use a negative offset for my vcore when i overclocked. that way after i found my stable voltage, i would apply the offset so it would be able to use the power saving features and have my my voltage and clock speeds drop down when the cpu was idling, and then ramp back up to my desired setting when in use. that way i wouldnt have to run my pc at full power and speed 24/7 when i didn't need to. to this day my old haswell is still going strong.

these days i dont even bother with manual overclocking and playing with the voltages and stuff. the new intel cpu's basically just do it themselves and boost up to whatever you set it to so long as you can give it enough power and keep the cooling in check. gpu's are even more simplified for overclocking these days. you just need to adjust the power limit and it'll ramp your boost clock up. the only thing you really need to play with is the memory clock/
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Thermal paste was new, everything was fine. Intel even said "As long as it's not at 100 it's fine." Personally I didn't care, I upgrade my computer parts so often I can't even remember what's in my PC now.
 
Woldog said:
Thermal paste was new, everything was fine. Intel even said "As long as it's not at 100 it's fine." Personally I didn't care, I upgrade my computer parts so often I can't even remember what's in my PC now.
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i'd be challenging the east indian intel helpdesk employee to engage in fisticuffs if they ever tried to run that shit by me lol

on the plus side you probably never had to run the heater in the winter!
 
Woldog said:
Mine was overclocked at 5ghz, whole crowds of people would come in off the street to watch my PC idle at 87degrees.
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If I remember correctly, your ambient temperature was insanely high.
A cooler can only do so much with a high ambient temperature.
 
Speaking of overclocking, Silicon Lottery closed. I guess the juice wasn't worth the squeeze anymore.
 
jefferz said:
If I remember correctly, your ambient temperature was insanely high.
A cooler can only do so much with a high ambient temperature.
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Correct, Australian temps are not ideal for overclocked 7700k's or 8**** series lol the Ryzen's have been doing much better.
 
avenue94 said:
Makes sense given how much more manufacturers bin chips for variants now.
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It has more to do with how much more sophisticated and aggressive dynamic overclocking has become in the past decade. It's a more efficient, intelligent form of overclocking. Marry this to chips that now essentially will scale their frequency and power consumption to whatever your CPU cooler is able to accommodate, and you have a redunant business with the Silicon Lottery.
 
My new rig finally arrived today, and I must say, it's a thing of beauty! <GinJuice>I feel like a kid in a candy store!

I got brave and threw in a couple of m2 drives and have been putting my games in on a fresh 4TB gen 4 drive. So all my onboard m2 slots are taken up: one for O/S and programs, one for games, and one for video/photo editing. But I feel super-future proofed because of the hyper m2 card, and super fast thunderbolt ports. I've ordered some old school HD drives to back up my mountains of photography and videos.

Downloading games is taking a while of course - have some big games that I've held off on playing until I upgraded my rig was I was on 1070 and 6th gen intel. The video card they gave me is a PNY, which I'm assuming is bottom of the barrel for the model, but whatever. Lot of bells and whistles with the lighting on the fans and cooler, and motherboard as well. I'm worried about getting conflicting software programs, most of the gear is corsair (fans, cooler, ram, case), but the mobo is Asus, and I'm not sure if the graphics card has any lighting to it lol.

My biggest positive surprise which actually means a lot to me is it runs fricken silent!!! Like not a peep. If it weren't for the lights I wouldn't even be able to tell it's on.
 
Nameless King said:
Waited long enough. TUF motherboard, maybe this year 4080 or 4090, 64 gigs of ram and should be proofed for at least 5 years i hope

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While this would be a godlike machine I have to question whether you are 'proofed' for 5 years. If you are spending massive dollars on a PC and not touching it for years you probably are also accepting that you are getting blistering speed now but pretty shitty speed later. It'd be much more efficient to have good speeds the whole time by buying a tier or two below and doing that again in 2.5 years. Overal your average performance is better IMO.
 
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