Law Florida Restores Right To Vote For Felons

[Ice That Jaw]

You're an idiot if you have a problem with people who have paid their debt to society getting the right to vote again. It's not an insult either, it literally means you are stupid or that you believe (as you seem to) that only Democrats are felons.

Oh yea, felons who serve their time aren't deplorables, they are upstanding citizens. Only half of the law abiding Republicans are deplorables. Lol

And yes, most felons in Florida are black and will vote for one party. After blacks, latinos make up the next largest demographic. They also vote for one party, aside from the Cuban subset. Why does that upset you?

 

[andnowweknow]

Oh yea, felons who serve their time aren't deplorables, they are upstanding citizens. Only half of the law abiding Republicans are deplorables. Lol

And yes, most felons in Florida are black and will vote for one party. After blacks, latinos make up the next largest demographic. They also vote for one party, aside from the Cuban subset. Why does that upset you?

Why does what upset me?

Did you just try to get your tiny brain to reframe "you mad" into something not moronic?

I would imagine it only bothers you generally because you think it's some Democrat ploy to get more voters. This has been explained as a ridiculous position with logic, reasoning and objective facts repeatedly in this thread and you literally need nothing else to ditch your woeful opinion on the matter than to accept that it was a voter measure, passed 2 to 1.

Your other option is to mentally melt and suggest "fake newz"...I give you the benefit of the doubt with a 50/50 shot at the right answer .

 

[Ice That Jaw]

Why does what upset me?

Did you just try to get your tiny brain to reframe "you mad" into something not moronic?

I would imagine it only bothers you generally because you think it's some Democrat ploy to get more voters. This has been explained as a ridiculous position with logic, reasoning and objective facts repeatedly in this thread and you literally need nothing else to ditch your woeful opinion on the matter than to accept that it was a voter measure, passed 2 to 1.

Your other option is to mentally melt and suggest "fake newz"...I give you the benefit of the doubt with a 50/50 shot at the right answer .

Bro you are truly mad. I said a joke and you are now explaining my policy stances to me. Lol

I don't give a shit if ex-cons vote, especially in a state I don't and will never plan to live in.

Drink a beer and lighten up.

 

[PHATV]

I wonder if they ever voted.

I have said this before, may be less liberal votes than they think. Possible those who continue to be felons/bums don't vote, and those who are reformed producers of society, are working and paying taxes, maybe attending church, probably lean more conservative.

 

[ferrisjso]

Thank god. About time. I do think the law should be tailored to create a distinction between non violent criminals most of whom shouldn't have in prison in the first place and violent ones, but hey this is better than allowing large swathes of the electorate to remain disenfranchised.

I'm not going to hide the fact I'm gleeful this can turn Florida can possibly turn Florida from a red to a purple state. Hopefully can also make Flordia dems more liberal cause some of those establishment Dems like DWS, Nelson and that guy who beat Grayson in the primary last time are the same of the shittiest Dems of the last several decades(DWS rigged yet another election that got no coverage).

It is motivated in part by us to get more voters same way Republican's treating Cubans warmly as refugees but not other groups is motivated by the way they are expected to vote. Obviously these sorts of things will have these sort of motivations, doesn't mean it's the only one.

 

[grizzard2bid]

Great more Trump voters

I know you're being facetious, but people who did some time or at least got a taste of prison, are less likely to be democrat and more anti-government, so probably more pro-Trump, especially since he's the president who supported judicial system reform and frankly is under potential threat of indictment himself <Lmaoo>

 

[grizzard2bid]

Thank god. About time. I do think the law should be tailored to create a distinction between non violent criminals most of whom shouldn't have in prison in the first place and violent ones, but hey this is better than allowing large swathes of the electorate to remain disenfranchised.

I'm not going to hide the fact I'm gleeful this can turn Florida can possibly turn Florida from a red to a purple state. Hopefully can also make Flordia dems more liberal cause some of those establishment Dems like DWS, Nelson and that guy who beat Grayson in the primary last time are the same of the shittiest Dems of the last several decades(DWS rigged yet another election that got no coverage).

It is motivated in part by us to get more voters same way Republican's treating Cubans warmly as refugees but not other groups is motivated by the way they are expected to vote. Obviously these sorts of things will have these sort of motivations, doesn't mean it's the only one.

You're kidding yourself if you think inmates who did time will come out as Democrats. Absolutely erroneous assumption.

 

[grizzard2bid]

You should put this question to every inmate who is about to walk out of the door of a prison. After all, if there is no difference, then I'm sure they wouldn't mind turning right around. I'm willing to bet they'll be able to navigate the nuance to find the true outcome.

They're plenty free.

Well, some end up walking out on parole conditions, other with probation terms and some have fully completed their sentence, but lost their right to own a firearm, vote, and be in the vicinity of fireworks or ammunition. Just because they walk out of prison, don't mean they're all that free.

 

[ferrisjso]

You're kidding yourself if you think inmates who did time will come out as Democrats. Absolutely erroneous assumption.

Well don't really think it matters most of these guys were tag teamed by two conservatives parties to be put in prison. In the 90s being tough on soft crime was a bipartisan position. But yeah only way to find out and that's to see how they vote in the next election. I'm guessing their affiliation will depend on their one and who voted to give them the right to vote.

 

[Bamboozled]

It's ridiculous that anybody would be for citizens to lose their right to vote, especially when you really think about what a 'felony' is.
A felony doesn't just mean murder or rape.

Felonies include but are not limited to the following:

• Murder
• Aggravated assault or battery
• Manslaughter (unintentional killing of another)
• Animal cruelty
• Vehicular homicide
• Larceny
• Arson
• Burglary
• Tax evasion
• Various forms of fraud
• Computer Crime Fraud and Abuse (computer hacking)
• The manufacture, sale, distribution, or possession with intent to distribute of certain types or quantities of illegal drugs
• In some states, the simple possession (possession without intent to distribute, e.g., for personal use) of certain types of illegal drugs, usually in more than a certain quantity but regardless of quantity for some drugs in some jurisdictions (such as Virginiafor cocaine and heroin)
• Grand larceny or grand theft, i.e., larceny or theft above a certain statutorily established value or quantity of goods
• Vandalism on federal property.
• Treason
• Rape/sexual assault
• Kidnapping
• Obstruction of justice
• Perjury
• Check fraud
• Copyright infringement[2]
• Child pornography
• Mail and wire fraud
• Forgery
• Threatening an official (police officer, judge)
• Extortion
• Blackmail

Should you lose your rights and have your life ruined for FOREVER for all of these things?
You can't keep punishing people that already paid their debt to society for the rest of their lives AND expect them to become upstanding members of society. You are just setting them up to continue to fail.
Why would they care about a system and government that they are excluded from?

There are restrictions that make sense, such as, a violent offender owning weapons, but the right to vote?
That is some China bullshit.
Only retards think this is some ploy to " get more Democrat votes". This is a basic human rights issue. Has nothing to do with politics.

yes, the founding fathers had mother fuckers hung for this shit. Losing your right to vote is nothing.

John Oliver had a great piece about felony disenfranchisement laws.

Didn't watch because he's an unfunny hack and not someone you should be getting your political philosophy from

 

[Bamboozled]

 

[Makani]

That is one of the worst memes I've ever seen, I can't believe you reposted it. If you want a conflict of interest, you should probably enjoy that Florida has one of the highest private prison populations in the country, and also keeps setting records for inmate deaths.

 

[andnowweknow]

Bro you are truly mad. I said a joke and you are now explaining my policy stances to me. Lol

I don't give a shit if ex-cons vote, especially in a state I don't and will never plan to live in.

Drink a beer and lighten up.

Wtf is this shit? Beer is for pussies.

"It is just the internet"

"I dont care"

Brochacho, fight me irl, dont start no shit wont be no shit.

 

[Kaybee]

Like I said when this first passed, there’s no guarantee that this results in a blue tide in Florida because hoodrats are never dependable voters and white trash typically are. Even if potential blue voters are jailed more frequently than potential red voters the ratio of people who end up actually voting being jailed may end up being pretty purple.

Both groups typically like their weed though, so at least that’ll help in regards to that in 2020

 

[jefferz]

If Alcee Hastings can be a congressman, Florida felons should get the right to vote.

In 1988, the Democratic-controlled United States House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413–3. He was then convicted on October 20, 1989, by the United States Senate, becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate.
Hastings was elected to the United States House of Representatives in 1992, representing Florida's 23rd district. He has not faced a serious challenge for reelection since. After redistricting, Hastings has represented Florida's 20th district since January 2013

 

[MrWallace]

What is the argument for felons not being able to vote? Once their debt to society is paid that is.

A moral one generally- If you aren't able to follow the law, then you shouldn't have a say in crafting it.

Most ex-cons can go through clemency procedures and have their civil rights restored (few do because the process is lengthy)

 

[Bamboozled]

That is one of the worst memes I've ever seen, I can't believe you reposted it. If you want a conflict of interest, you should probably enjoy that Florida has one of the highest private prison populations in the country, and also keeps setting records for inmate deaths.

Good, fuck em.

I'm all for rehabilitation but I don't give a shit about their right to vote.

If Alcee Hastings can be a congressman, Florida felons should get the right to vote.

In 1988, the Democratic-controlled United States House of Representatives took up the case, and Hastings was impeached for bribery and perjury by a vote of 413–3. He was then convicted on October 20, 1989, by the United States Senate, becoming the sixth federal judge in the history of the United States to be removed from office by the Senate.
Hastings was elected to the United States House of Representatives in 1992, representing Florida's 23rd district. He has not faced a serious challenge for reelection since. After redistricting, Hastings has represented Florida's 20th district since January 2013

Agreed, shouldn't be able to be a political figure

 

[dreden1982]

Travesty.

Another example of how spineless and morally bankrupt the Democrats have become in their fervent pursuit for more votes.

Restitution of that debt pays for freedom, not for the restoration of once-given rights. That's a squandered right.

That's absolutely absurd. If I got a felony for selling weed weed or any other non violent felony when in college for example I shouldn't be able to vote for the rest of my life? Asinine.

 

[dreden1982]

This is laughably stupid. One can make a mistake at 18 and yet you think this applies for the rest of their lives? You're a lunatic.

 

[MrWallace]

That's absolutely absurd. If I got a felony for selling weed weed or any other non violent felony when in college for example I shouldn't be able to vote for the rest of my life? Asinine.

I don't think you understand the topic, or read op