Fighting JJ makes absolutely no sense for Alex right now, IMHO.

[SuperAlly]

doesn't have to make sense

people will watch and try to attach goat status to the fight. you can't really say jones is washed at this time, he beat Gane about as easy as Pereira beat Ank last week. If Tom can't replicate that its not a good look for his goat resume, especially after quitting against Blaydes because he threw a kick wrong.

That's a humdinger of a ridiculous post

 

[SuperAlly]

Jones vs Pereira is the right fight to make, belt or not

I have no interest in seeing Tom knock out Pereira in 30 seconds

Its equally as possible Jon grapple fucks Poatan in 30s like he did Gane

Most fights fans prefer a rapid KO to a rapid sub

 

[SuperAlly]

Alex is old and the UFC is a joke now, it's all about the spectacle fights to bring in eyeballs and money. He doesn't really care, and shouldn't, about maintaining the legitimacy of the 'sport' of MMA. Get that paper, son.

Realistically, Jon should never fight again, the UFC should never do a 'white house' event, and blatant money laundering from foreign governments shouldn't be allowed let alone perpetrated by the fucking president ... but here we are.

Far leftists really struggle to just enjoy life man

 

[SuperAlly]

but it's a multiplier, If he loses to gane/aspinall there is no jones fight. As a matter of fact it's the end of the road.

Beating aspinall then jones is just even harder, even bigger gamble. Nothing to lose vs jones. But vs aspinall you can lose the jones fight.

Na.

Losing to Jon you lose the potential HW, first 3 weight champ fight

Losing to Tom doesn't necessarily preclude the Jon fight. Jon fought Stipe coming out of retirement off a KO loss with no fight in years

A fight with the reigning LHW champ (or defacto LHW champ/best current LHW if he has to vacate to fight Tom) is still a sell against LHW goat

You have it absolutely ass backwards

 

[SuperAlly]

honestly, I washed my hands jones before the HW move. He has nothing else to prove or cyril "gain" from this sport. People were bullish on the aspinall fight like it would mean something, I never agreed.

The Aspinall fight absolutely means something

Imagine the kudos Jon would have got if he'd beat the terror who is KOing all current HWs in a round

 

[SuperAlly]

He pulled it out of the fire in the rematch, Had it lost that it was over for sure. He had one life line and the way that he won made it so. Had he won a contentious decision it'd be off the table in the eyes of the public

Na. To you yes.

To the general fight fan public no.

You're miles off base

 

[SuperAlly]

Well, in fact a 7th title fight win would mean even more than I thought.
There's 5 male UFC fighters tied with 6 title fight wins. Pereira is there along Usman, Cormier or Stipe.

But only 8 UFC male fighters have 8 or more. A seventh, and he would match some other dude called Alex MF VOLKANOVSKI.

Fighters obviously know, and care, and look for that shit.

Really good info Rubios and does change the balance a little.

I still disagree and winning the HW title and a 3 weight title, or beating Jones would still be more legacy defining. But the gap between that and a 7th title win v say Ulberg is also another feather in his cap based on the stats you shared.

Its still the 3rd best thing though after HW and 3rd title or beating LHW GOAT. Beating Ulberg almost certainly the easiest to achieve though

 

[SuperAlly]

Anyone wanting to get a fight with the greatest mma fighter of all time makes sense... Jon Jones vs anybody is the biggest fight...

Jon vs Tom is big money Jon vs Alex Pereira is even bigger money..

You're logic is Tom is the champ.. is not valid at all Tom has done nothing and is finally gonna fight a top 5 guy who's faced the best competition in his weight class yeah he lost to them all but still.. Toms best win is old arlovski and blades....

"No logic" says this guy and then posts this turd

 

[goOb]

This is why I don't care about double champions. Half the time the second belt is the weight they actually should be fighting at and you never get defenses of the belts. It's a gimmick. Let's say Pereira gets the third belt. That is only going to inspire guys to become the first quadruple champ. Think about what that is going to do to the sport... do you wan't some manlet walking around as the septuple champion of the UFC?

 

[CasualBot]

Far leftists really struggle to just enjoy life man

Except that wasn't a leftist point of view.

Honest question, (as i am not American)

You think building that saudi air base in idaho...

is left or right (of any logic) ?

 

[Rio Ferdinand]

Alex needs to go for the money fight right now.

He has cleaned out the division. He is 38 years old.

With only a few more fights left in his career, I would love to see him fight Jon Jones or Tom Aspinall next.

 

[Mmmmmmma1234]

See, this is why I disagree. He lost to Ank the first time around. If the road to Jon isn't already over from that loss, I'm not sure why it would be for losing to Tom. Maybe Gane, since Jon tooled Gane, but it's not like Alex had the HW belt the first time Jon wanted to fight him.

Hell, if he gets subbed by Tom, that might actually convince Jon how easy it would be for him to sub Alex. Might even increase his chances of getting it booked. It's not like a belt would be necessary if it's a White House special attraction either.

Even if someone argues that losing a title fight takes Jon off the table, I can't see anyone arguing that losing to Jon keeps the title fight on the table. If both are true, then the whole two fight premise is out the window entirely, in which case I agreed, yeah, go after Jon, but I think it should still be noted in that case that: it's gotta be unanimously agreed that the title fight is much more guaranteed to happen than a Jon fight, which still might not happen at all

The hw title will always be there Jones fights is only for legacy he's not interested in a beaten Alex.
If Jones were to best Alex, like you saying Alex could then rebuild his hw run vs Gane and/or pav, to fight Tom.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

The hw title will always be there Jones fights is only for legacy he's not interested in a beaten Alex.
If Jones were to best Alex, like you saying Alex could then rebuild his hw run vs Gane and/or pav, to fight Tom.

Not when he's only got a couple fights left

 

[SuperAlly]

Except that wasn't a leftist point of view.

Honest question, (as i am not American)

You think building that saudi air base in idaho...

is left or right (of any logic) ?

Whining about the sanctity of the white house lawn and a UFC card is absolutely being done by leftists predominantly

 

[HavokHarmon]

Is Hendo known for being Strikeforce champion ( is 3rd - 4th belt ) or knocking out Fedor

Fucking summed up everything I was gonna say in one sentence. And that wasn’t even Fedor during his undefeated streak, we had seen him lose before that. Alex going up and being the first EVER to to get a stoppage or decision victory over Jones is worth more than any belt and it’s something he’d be remembered for for decades to come.

 

[CasualBot]

Whining about the sanctity of the white house lawn and a UFC card is absolutely being done by leftists predominantly

... just wondering how you feel about the saudi air base in idaho.

No ism or ist, as far as the white house ufc...
it's a very liberal, left wing idea.

Let's try your thoughts on the saudi base,
instead of your thoughts on others.
People who blame others are predictable.

I am interested to see your same logic/opinion with the Saudi's on American soil..

Regardless of left or right, you must have an individual thought... Or is that communism, socialism, another ism...

You see where this basic question is going?



(Please don't go all Jordan peterson "can't clean a room and the mold made me sick, so it must be spirits causing pneumonia" or some RFKjr nonsense babbling about statistics & groups)

Just genuinely interested your thoughts on saudi's having an air base in idaho.

I am not American,
so this whole "left/right" thing is a laughable joke.
I am more interested without the isms & ists and acronyms. Just a straight up opinion on a topic.

 

[chardog]

prize fighter looking for a big prize, I dont see the issue here.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

I am not American,
so this whole "left/right" thing is a laughable joke.
I am more interested without the isms & ists and acronyms. Just a straight up opinion on a topic.

Neither is he. He's some jumped-up Brit trying to tell Americans what to think about their own government.

 

[CasualBot]

Neither is he. He's some jumped-up Brit trying to tell Americans what to think about their own government.

Come on

 

[piropiro]

Huge money.
Huge legacy implications.
No weight cut.
Remains champion regardless of the result (if the fight is at HW).

Not much to lose if ends up defeated, lots to gain if ends up winning.

Makes perfect sense, especially approaching the end of his career.