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I've been seeing some tier lists and Zangief is in the basement as usual.

I'm not a serious player of SF, but I did have 5 and have been eyeing 6 and it's annoying he always seems to suck. And even with updates, he never even gets to the middle of the pack.

So my question is, does Capcom do this on purpose? Like, is there some data that suggests fighting and losing to Zangief is a more frustrating experience than losing to other fights, and so to avoid off-putting experiences for players who might quit playing the game or whatever, they intentionally keep Zangief as a super weak character?

He's one of the SF2 original 8, and yet he is always treated like trash.
 
Unknown Pleasures said:
I've been seeing some tier lists and Zangief is in the basement as usual.

I'm not a serious player of SF, but I did have 5 and have been eyeing 6 and it's annoying he always seems to suck. And even with updates, he never even gets to the middle of the pack.

So my question is, does Capcom do this on purpose? Like, is there some data that suggests fighting and losing to Zangief is a more frustrating experience than losing to other fights, and so to avoid off-putting experiences for players who might quit playing the game or whatever, they intentionally keep Zangief as a super weak character?

He's one of the SF2 original 8, and yet he is always treated like trash.
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Capcom seems to dislike grapplers and certain zoners. Meanwhile, Cammy and Luke can go crazy, lol.
 
Unknown Pleasures said:
I've been seeing some tier lists and Zangief is in the basement as usual.

I'm not a serious player of SF, but I did have 5 and have been eyeing 6 and it's annoying he always seems to suck. And even with updates, he never even gets to the middle of the pack.

So my question is, does Capcom do this on purpose? Like, is there some data that suggests fighting and losing to Zangief is a more frustrating experience than losing to other fights, and so to avoid off-putting experiences for players who might quit playing the game or whatever, they intentionally keep Zangief as a super weak character?

He's one of the SF2 original 8, and yet he is always treated like trash.
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I forgot to mention. There was an interview on EH where the director said that their internal rankings were different than many of the pros. If translated correctly:

"Most people seemed to consider Luke the strongest, but on our development team what if I told you that we actually thought that Alex was at the top?"

Yeah, that's pretty funny.
 
Crimson Fury said:
I forgot to mention. There was an interview on EH where the director said that their internal rankings were different than many of the pros. If translated correctly:

"Most people seemed to consider Luke the strongest, but on our development team what if I told you that we actually thought that Alex was at the top?"

Yeah, that's pretty funny.
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I find graphically they made Zangief look like a synthol freak which is also disappointing.
 
MMAisGod said:
@what-wut @Crimson Fury after more adjustments and grinding I scored my highest notch so far last night, took a 2-1 against Shooting, who has the #1 ranked Guile and #3 overall player, and 212k league points lol.

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Niiice bro, I've never seen someone with that kinda points before lol. But you outplayed him especially from afar and nice use of the juggling kick anti air.
 
what-wut said:
Niiice bro, I've never seen someone with that kinda points before lol. But you outplayed him especially from afar and nice use of the juggling kick anti air.
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Me either haha I was like wth how is that even possible LOL. I know he's great and all but he must live inside the game. Those tips paying off big time though! Now I'm trying to learn to play more patient/less panic when in neutral or back against the corner as the next step.
 
MMAisGod said:
Me either haha I was like wth how is that even possible LOL. I know he's great and all but he must live inside the game. Those tips paying off big time though! Now I'm trying to learn to play more patient/less panic when in neutral or back against the corner as the next step.
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I'm reinstalling the game, I miss it tbh, if I find Gief unplayable I'll delete it again lol
 
what-wut said:
I'm reinstalling the game, I miss it tbh, if I find Gief unplayable I'll delete it again lol
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Funny enough I feel like almost in reverse, like I enjoy it a lot, but at the same time the crap that it has in the game makes me wish I could stop playing it LOL!
 
Crimson Fury said:
I can't believe I got away with this.

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When I saw the DR I was like "oh it's coming" LOL!

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Not that I care about story, but Geras seems to be more than just cannon fodder which I like.
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Tell you what, they must have fired some people after MK11 because this game is looking infinitely better in every way.
 
MMAisGod said:
When I saw the DR I was like "oh it's coming" LOL!



Tell you what, they must have fired some people after MK11 because this game is looking infinitely better in every way.
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I lost the previous set to him and I didn't want it to go to a third game so I bet it all, lol.

I think some of the animations in MK1 looks better than the previous games too. I hope the final product turns out to be great. No Jade, but whatever.
 
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