Feelings aside...

[C0NCH3TO]

What does training got to with a real fight? lol….If you told me Jones beat the brakes off 2011 Reem and Mur it would be a different story.

 

[Blayt7hh]

So like if Tom has trained with people that we can say added up have a combination of attributes similar to Jon, we can just say Tom beat Jon?

Like what’s your point TS? If Jon wants to retire, I think most people are fine with it. If Jon wants to keep fighting and the UFC wants to call him the champ, obviously everyone believes he has to fight the guy that’s been defending his interim belt while Jon was inactive

 

[El Fernas]

What does Tom have that Jon hasn't seen before? Jon trained with Frank Mir who was bigger and had MUCH better jits than Tom. He trained with Reem who was bigger and had better striking than Tom.

So, what is it? What does Tom bring to the table that is supposed to instill fear in Jon?

Thing is, is not what Jones has seen before, he has seen it all, its the conditions when he will have to deal with it, Jones isnt in his prime anymore, and training isnt the same as fighting, im not a Jones hater but i would have a hard time thinking Jones would win at this stage of his career, people love to comment on how big Jones was for LHW, he was just another tall guy at LHW, like a bunch of them are, he wasnt cutting from 240lbs to make 205lbs, he is a career LHW that stopped dieting to move up to HW, he was lighter than Stipe and for sure is lighter than Aspinall, who is in absolute prime shape, considerably younger than Jones.

Its not like Aspinall is this fresh new monster, is that he is a fresh monster and Jones is 38 years old.

PS: Discrediting the opponent skills is the wrong take...more reason to take the fight, isnt it? To prove the haters that Aspinall wasnt all that, if the crowd wants him to fight an easy fight, why not just do it? Wrong take.

 

[BlackStrap]

Either they make JBJ Vs Tom or Poatan.

JBJ is gonna get sent to retirement.

I agree with this sentiment. Not necessarily from one of those guys, but the longer Jones tests the waters the more likely he will be put down, and when he does it will likely be pretty brutal. Of the two, I think Poatan has a better chance of icing him, due to his experience. He is patient, calculated, and has crazy power. Aspinall also has a good shot though, due to his speed and general well rounded skillset. I just feel he is less polished.

 

[BlackStrap]

Tom Aspinall is the Interim Champion which means the championship is not undisputed. The interim champ is supposed to fight for the belt. That's why he has the belt- it's a statement that says there is no real champ until the two fight.

What does Tom have? He has the belt.

This is as much and as little as needs to be said.

 

[Pequeño Corey]

He has every right.

Well, unless you're actually taking it seriously as in "oh no, he's holding up the belt!".

The BELT!

I just hate to see Tom get screwed out of anything that could have counted as a legit defense. He could surpass Stipe, but as it stands, his “defense” against Blaydes doesn’t technically count, although it should.

 

[HHJ]

What does Tom have that Jon hasn't seen before? Jon trained with Frank Mir who was bigger and had MUCH better jits than Tom. He trained with Reem who was bigger and had better striking than Tom.

So, what is it? What does Tom bring to the table that is supposed to instill fear in Jon?

Ask Jon not us lol

 

[Nabs]

Tom Aspinall is the Interim Champion which means the championship is not undisputed. The interim champ is supposed to fight for the belt. That's why he has the belt- it's a statement that says there is no real champ until the two fight.

What does Tom have? He has the belt.

I agree that he absolutely should fight Tom. I have no interest in the Poatan fight. I believe Tom's speed and well roundedness makes him a real challenge, but I just don't believe that it's something Jon hasn't seen before.

 

[Nabs]

Irrelevant

Tom is the only legit contender now

No one at LW has ever been as good as Khabib

So Islam can duck whoever he wants. Right?
Why are Jon fans terrified of Tom

Relax, sir.

I'm not one of those stans. I do believe that Tom should be the only fight for Jon, I just don't believe he brings anything, skillwise, that Jon has never seen before.

 

[Spam On Rye]

What is this retarded cope?

 

[Nabs]

What does Shavkat have that Belal hasn’t seen before? What does Ankalaev have that Pereira hasn’t seen before? What does Tsarukyan have that Makachev hasn’t seen before?
By that silly logic, why do people even fight? We can just assume the winner, no need for champions to put their championship on the line. We should just let them pick opponents.

Dude, I was talking skill wise only. Not disputing at all whether he should fight Tom or not. Tom is the only fight IMO. I just don't buy into the narrative that Jon hasn't dealt with his skills before.

Reading comprehension, people!!!

 

[Nabs]

What is this retarded cope?

Reading comprehension, sir! Smh!

 

[Nabs]

Thing is, is not what Jones has seen before, he has seen it all, its the conditions when he will have to deal with it, Jones isnt in his prime anymore, and training isnt the same as fighting, im not a Jones hater but i would have a hard time thinking Jones would win at this stage of his career, people love to comment on how big Jones was for LHW, he was just another tall guy at LHW, like a bunch of them are, he wasnt cutting from 240lbs to make 205lbs, he is a career LHW that stopped dieting to move up to HW, he was lighter than Stipe and for sure is lighter than Aspinall, who is in absolute prime shape, considerably younger than Jones.

Its not like Aspinall is this fresh new monster, is that he is a fresh monster and Jones is 38 years old.

PS: Discrediting the opponent skills is the wrong take...more reason to take the fight, isnt it? To prove the haters that Aspinall wasnt all that, if the crowd wants him to fight an easy fight, why not just do it? Wrong take.

Agreed.

I'm all in on the fight. It's either fight Tom or retire IMO. I have no interest in seeing him fight Poatan. I was just addressing the skills narrative.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Reading comprehension, sir! Smh!

Seems like a lot didn't read the part about putting their feelings aside, either

 

[Nabs]

Seems like a lot didn't read the part about putting their feelings aside, either

Right! They are just as bad as all the Jon's stans they complain about.

 

[Oscar Madison]

Tom Aspinall is the Interim Champion which means the championship is not undisputed. The interim champ is supposed to fight for the belt. That's why he has the belt- it's a statement that says there is no real champ until the two fight.

What does Tom have? He has the belt.

"And Still! -- the Undisputed UFC HW Champion of the World..."

Bruce knows.

 

[Harlekin]

TS your argument fails as Overeem injured Jones accidentally in training. Jones was out for months and never wanted to train with Overeem again.

Also Tom is faster and has crisper straights than Alistair. He will knock out Jon if the fight keeps standing.
Aspinall has a great overall package and is young.

 

[Nabs]

TS your argument fails as Overeem injured Jones accidentally in training. Jones was out for months and never wanted to train with Overeem again.

Also Tom is faster and has crisper straights than Alistair. He will knock out Jon if the fight keeps standing.
Aspinall has a great overall package and is young.

No argument, just a question.

And Overreem hurting Jon in training doesn't mean that he couldn't hang w him. Overeem is known to be a questionable training partner. By all accounts, all the HWs who trained w Jon have been saying for years that he'd do well at HW based on their experience training w him.

 

[JBJ was here]

Tom Aspinall is the Interim Champion which means the championship is not undisputed.

The UFC, which owns and controls the championship, disagrees.

 

[Nabs]

Here is one of those HWs I mentioned in my OP