Fedor's GnP was insane

[Jewish Lightning]

I think young Werdum gets picked apart on the feet by old Werdum tbh. Old Werdum was beating up Hunto striking.

Perhaps but young Werdum was a different animal. I wouldnt count him out or assume he'd get the piss beat out of him.

In his first 10 fights he stopped Gonzaga, submitted Erickson who was a 300lb Olympic level wrestler, subbed Zentsov, subbed Overeem and had super close fights with prime Sergei and prime Arlovksi and lost to Nog but was decently competitive with him. To count that version of Werdum out is silly imo.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

This is so fucking cringe worthy. You actually typed this out and thought "this is a great insult"?

 

[mkt]

I'm 100% sure that you're a great shoe shiner/ dish washer

I'm 100% sure you live on the dole...and maybe some tips from Scott Coker.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

I'm 100% sure you live on the dole...and maybe some tips from Scott Coker.

Yea I bet youre the life of the party.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

It's like tyson style of throwing with your whole body (Tyson would almos square up at times/Manny does as well) and he creates so much torque.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

And if Blaydes roided like those two (especially Barnett), I'm sure he'd be even better. Never forget, Pride = zero drug testing. Look at Bobb Sapp...365 pounds with abs. Yeah, that's natural.

Who said Blaydes isn't roiding? Why do UFC shills always act like a massive amount of UFC fighters havent pissed hot in the UFC before and after USADA. Jon Jones pissed hot 3x in the UFC. Nate, Shields, Dillashaw, Melendez all pissed hot and countless others.

But somehow Blaydes never juiced like the guys in Pride did.

 

[kflo]

Lol what

Glover is 64 years old and took the belt from a 39 year old Jan who is a border line journeyman.

Not to mention MW Anthony Smith with 18 losses hanging around the top 5 at LHW.

LHW is weaker than it's ever been. Hopefully Jiri can bring some life to the division. Ankalev still a ? and Nemkov is very good but but not in the UFC unfortunately.

This is the little mw smith next to a REAL lhw:


Like I said, people use glover and smith as a reason to put down the division but there is talent and depth. And of course, size.

Of course, I expect this to be met with usual theatrics and ranting about the magical 2000s……

 

[Jewish Lightning]

This is the little mw smith next to a REAL lhw:
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Like I said, people use glover and smith as a reason to put down the division but there is talent and depth. And of course, size.

Of course, I expect this to be met with usual theatrics and ranting about the magical 2000s……

What are you comparing this division to? This division is clearly weaker than the ufc lhw division from 2010-2015 and by a wide margin in terms of talent and depth.

The Pride MW division was better than today's LHW as well and by a wide margin.

There are some good guys today though who are bringing some life. Nemkov is very good. Ankalev seems promising but I want to see his next couple fights. Rakic is ok I guess.

 

[kflo]

This was pretty good:

As was the gnp against del rosario




Inb4 comments on overeem’s chin…

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Who said Blaydes isn't roiding? Why do UFC shills always act like a massive amount of UFC fighters havent pissed hot in the UFC before and after USADA. Jon Jones pissed hot 3x in the UFC. Nate, Shields, Dillashaw, Melendez all pissed hot and countless others.

But somehow Blaydes never juiced like the guys in Pride did.

People juice in the UFC but they can't go full on juice like they did in PRIDE without being caught.

 

[kflo]

What are you comparing this division to? This division is clearly weaker than the ufc lhw division from 2010-2015 and by a wide margin in terms of talent and depth.

The Pride MW division was better than today's LHW as well and by a wide margin.

There are some good guys today though who are bringing some life. Nemkov is very good. Ankalev seems promising but I want to see his next couple fights. Rakic is ok I guess.

This lhw division globally today would be competitive with the 205 division from the mid 2000s, imo. But hey, you’ll scoff and assure all that the sport was far superior with fewer athletes training in the sport and less money involved.

 

[kflo]

Who said Blaydes isn't roiding? Why do UFC shills always act like a massive amount of UFC fighters havent pissed hot in the UFC before and after USADA. Jon Jones pissed hot 3x in the UFC. Nate, Shields, Dillashaw, Melendez all pissed hot and countless others.

But somehow Blaydes never juiced like the guys in Pride did.

No one ever got caught in pride!!!

 

[Jewish Lightning]

People juice in the UFC but they can't go full on juice like they did in PRIDE without being caught.

Wtf is "full on" Smh

Why can't ufc shills accept the fact that everyone in the ufc juices too? Is there not enough historical evidence? Smh

Was Jon Jones who popped 3x not full on juicing?

 

[Jewish Lightning]

No one ever got caught in pride!!!

Shill vibes.

 

[kflo]

Wtf is "full on" Smh

Why can't ufc shills accept the fact that everyone in the ufc juices too? Is there not enough historical evidence? Smh

Was Jon Jones who popped 3x not full on juicing?

Why can’t you accept that juicing when you aren’t getting tested at all is going to look different than using ped’s while being under usada / testing? Why do you think vitor and bigfoot fell off a cliff when they couldn’t use TRT anymore? Under pride rules they wouldn’t have had a drop off.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

This was pretty good:

As was the gnp against del rosario




Inb4 comments on overeem’s chin…

Good stoppage but not nearly as fast and intense as what Fedor did to Nog. Late 30s Reem with 17 KO losses and 3KO losses in the UFC by this point who wasnt half the grappler from his back that 28 year old Big Nog was. If Fedor hit this version of Reem with the shots he hit Nogueira with Allistair would have been hospitalized.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Wtf is "full on" Smh

Why can't ufc shills accept the fact that everyone in the ufc juices too? Is there not enough historical evidence? Smh

Was Jon Jones who popped 3x not full on juicing?

Sure, that's why he popped, but there's guys in ACA for example who could never fight in the UFC because they wouldn't pass muster for any fights.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Why can’t you accept that juicing when you aren’t getting tested at all is going to look different than using ped’s while being under usada / testing? Why do you think vitor and bigfoot fell off a cliff when they couldn’t use TRT anymore? Under pride rules they wouldn’t have had a drop off.

How did Jon Jones look different? Or TRT Vitor? Or USADA Costa and Romero?

These are athletes who get kicked, punched, kneed and elbowed and wrestled and still have to do strength and conditioning 6-8 hours a day for 8 weeks. You can't do this without your body breaking down. You need help whether you're in the ufc or in Pride. Anyone who thinks today's guys are juicing differently today is either a shill or never played any high impact sports and trained on such a level. 95% of the fighters in the UFC today are on something. From legends like Jones and Anderson to small 135ers like Dillashaw to weed smoking "natural guys" like Nate , Shields and Gil. For fucks sake stop shilling.

 

[kflo]

Good stoppage but not nearly as fast and intense as what Fedor did to Nog. Late 30s Reem with 17 KO losses and 3KO losses in the UFC by this point who wasnt half the grappler from his back that 28 year old Big Nog was. If Fedor hit this version of Reem with the shots he hit Nogueira with Allistair would have been hospitalized.

Again, it’s silly to have a discussion on this because you’re not open to it. There’s a difference between the leverage stipe has on his shots. He’s grounded for leverage and overeem’s head is on the canvas. The combination of conditions makes it more devastating concussive blows.

 

[kflo]

How did Jon Jones look different? Or TRT Vitor? Or USADA Costa and Romero.

These are athletes who get kicked, punched, kneed and elbowed and wrestled and still have to do strength and conditioning 6-8 hours a day for 8 weeks. Anyone who thinks today's guys are juicing differently today is either a shill or never played any high impact sports and trained on such a level. 95% of the fighters in the UFC today are on something. From legends like Jones and Anderson to small 135ers like Dillashaw to weed smoking "natural guys" like Nate , Shields and Gil. For fucks sake stop shilling.

Are you denying that vitor looked different when he couldn’t use TRT? And that in pride he could have used whatever he wanted? Are you really denying this?

Jon jones was always under some testing in the ufc. He couldn’t do what say randleman or coleman or Kerr did back then. Not sure why you can’t accept this.