Exposing the Grift: Go Woke Go Broke

[SuperAlly]

I mean, has Ubisoft (or literally anyone) said that Assassin's Creed Shadows is going to be historically accurate? Has any Assassin's Creed game been historically accurate?

As far as the painting, does it for some reason have to be painted in a specific time frame? But yeah, either way we don't know for sure, I think it's thought to be him because weren't a lotta black dudes in Japan.

Your points about woke he addresses in the video with specific examples, I'm not gonna repeat myself again.

He cites and breaks down The Critical Drinker using his own videos. He has an entire other video dedicated to William. Another dude made a video about him too. Their source? The words that come out of his mouth.

If The Critical Drinker isn't racist, he needs to be more careful. The video explains that real well. The incessant complaining about "diversity" and "the message", after a point, is uhhhh... yeah. It's also interesting how many people are blowing up this story when we know he was a real dude either way. It's really not a big deal and after having looked into it I find it questionable, to put it charitably, that people are so vested in tearing the game down for having a person who actually existed in it, especially when it's a black dude. That it's being made a big deal is eyebrow raising, the level of protest is too high for me to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. It doesn't pass the sniff test.

Racism often is spoken in dog whistles and indirectly these days. If William ain't racist then maybe he should fucking chill with the constant culture war bullshit. If he's not an ist or ism or phobe then he's not he's not doing himself any favors nor are some of his bros. Dudes like him lend validity to the goofs like the people at Disney who blame their shows sucking on whatever ist or ism, using identity as a smokescreen for their shitty products.

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Annnnd this baby is probably headed to the war room


Yeah I mean, we don't know for sure. I don't know the history but as far as I'm aware him being a samurai is pretty notable and if he competed in sumo then that painting depicting him seems plausible. I don't know whether there were dozens or hundreds like that article says, wouldn't surprise me either way.

The dude cites his sources really well in the video, I think he shows a source for everything he says, so I don't find it too questionable though one can certainly disagree with his conclusions.

But RE: Yasuke, I don't care. He was a real person, he's interesting, so they put him in a game and that's not even the first game he's been in. Ubisoft sucks for other reasons.

You have an unhealthy obsession with some random youtuber in Scotland

It's quite scary and mental really

 

[SuperAlly]

This reminds me of Prey. They switched it up by having a woman and a native american tribe and the anti-wokes lost their goddamn minds. Meanwhile, if you're a movie maker, and you wanna do something different to set it apart from the other Predator movies, that's a good move. It's new and different, gives it some identity. I think the same happened here. "We've made all these games, oh, hey - there was a black samurai dude in Japan. That's different. Lets do that."

Certain sections of the internet: "Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee."

Like brah, chill, especially if you weren't gonna play that shit anyway. So reactionary.

The anti woke lost their mind?

Your own personal "hitler":



I think the "anti-woke" causes you to lose your mind for sure

Prey is probably the worst example you could have picked for your twisted agenda

 

[SuperAlly]

"Racism often is spoken in dog whistles and indirectly these days. If William ain't racist then maybe he should fucking chill with the constant culture war bullshit."

...so your problem isn't with the creepy weirdo's that obsessively and obnoxiously soehorn everything being about skin color, genitals and sexual preference etc into fucking EVERYTHING... your problem is with the guy who keeps pointing out what they're doing. OK then

/facepalm

Guy scoring own goals left right and centre

He's hilarious

 

[SuperAlly]

You seriously can't hold a coherent conversation like an adult. You can't acknowledge basic, entirely self evident facts as they disagree with your ideology. THIS is why normal people think you wokies are fucking retarded.

"and the anti-wokes lost their goddamn minds..."

Where? Who are these people, aside from inside your own head? You spouted absolute fabricated horseshit and were called out on it and then desperately tried to backtrack.

It's become crystal clear that you don't know the first thing about the subject you were trying to discuss and are just regurgitating shit you heard in a youtube video and thought you could "own the chuds" or some such bullshit but instead, ended up looking like a clueless imbecile at every turn when those who do know what they were talking about responded.

I hope you enjoyed faceplanting and looking like a complete fool in front of everyone.

Basically the TS is super woke, so anyone attacking people perceived to be anti-woke he's gonna jump all over and gargle it hard

He doesn't care if their arguments have any logical validity or consistency

They are saying the Drinker is bad and so he just loves that, even when the arguments are weak or flat out wrong

 

[SuperAlly]

Come on, we're waiting... you've shown videos with mild criticism, when are you going to show us where "the anti-wokes lost their goddamn minds..."

Or will you finally just admit that you are full of shit and made it up?

Only one person here lost his mind

Deviant-e

 

[SuperAlly]

He's not woke - whatever that means -

You do realise you started a thread with woke in the title...

 

[SuperAlly]

Well, his argument obviously sucks.

Crazy Rich Asians: I didn't even realize this movie was considered "woke", who accused it of that? Does he name anyone? A campaign against it on that basis? A set of criteria for wokeism it has in common with other commonly derided films associated with that term used as an epithet? That movie was the commercial surprise of its year, and as I recall, the takeaway wasn't that it was woke, but rather that it demonstrated how there was a much larger appetite among Asian Americans for films about their subculture within the American fabric that Hollywood consistently ignores because Asians are that minority that inconveniently overperforms. For example, when the #Oscarsowhite trended, many pointed out that the most underrepresented minority group per capita in not only the acting awards, but in the crew awards, were Asian Americans, and yet the subsequent DEI noms that followed in the years after didn't address this at all.

Black Panther: Terrible example. This was an MCU film when MCU was at its peak. Every MCU film was doing huge business. As many of the anti-woke commentators pointed out in ensuing years, no, Black Panther 2 didn't do well, relatively speaking, and it's commonly accepted in the industry that the box office of sequels are referendums on how the public felt about the first film. BP2 only did $859m compared to $1.35bn for the first film. That's a massive dropoff in revenue, nearly 60% lower, and indicates the public responded negatively to the woke direction the BP subuniverse was taking.

Zootopia: Excuse me? It's really a stretch to call this an example of a #woke family film. Not at all how the public received it. Because she wants to be the first rabbit police officer? Certainly one can interpret the metaphor to positively reinforce the notion that women can also be effective police officers, but the metaphor can be interpretly more broadly than that, while of course the character is also female, and when exactly was this a radically #woke progressivist value not accepted by the mainstream? In 1960? It was just a really good unexpected sleeper hit. Cop-buddy narrative pairing the cockeyed optimist-idealist with the streetsmart cynic. Tale as old as time. And corrupt government is a dime-a-dozen villain. Spare me the Capitalist-overlords are engineering the misbehavior of innocent black men (predators) out of their own financial interest, take. That's a deep cut. A better example of overtly #woke family films are the ones that champion gay characters as exposed to the child audience. Those have performed terribly.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: Again, what a dumb example. This is the third film in a trilogy. The box office take reflects how people felt about the first two. This IP was never associated with wokeism.

Hidden Figures: Yeah, sure, I guess. I mean, it's based on real people, things that really happened, but if you want to call this a woke success, I suppose it fits.

Wonder Woman: Sure. Did well. Good movie, too. Ironically, the true protagonist of the film was a white heterosexual male war veteran-- sort of undermines the #woke angle. But I'll allow it. So does he explain why Wonder Woman 1984 bombed?

Barbie: sure. The massive blockbuster hit nobody expected.


Is that all he has? Utterly pitiful in comparison to the arguments of those he's accusing of grifting.

Imagine trying to claim Guardians 3 as woke

And the other examples you pulled him up on

What an absolutely mad bastard the youtuber and TS are

Just claiming random movies with a decent box office as woke to try and make their false point

 

[SuperAlly]

Woke at its core is the producers of content 'waking up to recognize the face (changing) of their audience and then tailoring content to pander to that group'.

So when you see a slew of new 'action Hero women' following in the Die Hard (Bruce Willis) or Lethal Weapon (Mel Gibson), or James Bond/Ethan Hunt/Borne mold (Salt, etc) that is the Producers recognizing women ALSO want to see other women doing the things the men doing, in the same the producers were spoon feeding, white men (all men) that manlets or even normal sized men could take on armies of giant men, hand to hand or with guns and always get the hottest girl.

Men, especially at first really struggled with it. They would say it 'took them out of the movie'. Arguments that 'women are just unbelievable beating up men', while not noticing that the men COULD NOT do those feats either, but everyone was not only ok with it but cheered it. Men taking on Aliens, etc and always finding a way to win, was pandering to our ingenuity that even advanced aliens had no real chance against it. If that does not take you out of the movie, due to lack or realism, it is because you are the mark. The one being pandered too.

We grew up being fed pandering porn, as it was woke to such a high degree, we could not even see it.

The issue is not whether the content is woke or not, as almost all is, and instead the issue is, was it well written or poorly written. Poorly written woke material, whether from the past or current will always, rightly, draw fire.

This was nonsense the first time you wrote

It isn't any less nonsensical second time around

 

[SuperAlly]

Funnily, the Birdman also makes the point that William riles people up with his culture war (my words) bullshit... this thread certainly isn't an indication of that. Lol

"His culture war"

You and "the birdman" surely get the blame for this thread

Not the person you attacked

You ate absolutely mental and it's hilarious

Throws grenade, blaims target for you throwing grenade.

Too funny

 

[ChosenOne]

The anti woke lost their mind?

Your own personal "hitler":



I think the "anti-woke" causes you to lose your mind for sure

Prey is probably the worst example you could have picked for your twisted agenda

Why?

Explain it if you can.

 

[SuperAlly]

people like William stoke tension and division. Apparently that warrants 8700 pages of screeching lol

Starts thread to get a reaction
Complains when people give reaction as 8700 pages of screeching

You are a very strange attention seeker

 

[Seano]

Ya, there simply is no denying who has been the biggest target of 'wokie writing' the prior 100 years. Not just fictional characters but also real life people, all played by white males and, over time females, because of the audience they were pandering too.

And yet when there is talk of adding in an Asian character to a marvel movie, like is happening in Thunderbolts thread, because 'ZOMG they are woke pandering to the Chinese again', or you see in the Gladiator remake movies complaints of 'ZOMG, black character' complaints .... those same people look at examples like the above, presented to them for OVER 100 YEARS, and do not see it. Nope. Nothing woke in the above they will tell you believing it is just natural for them to be pandered to and thus not 'woke'.

They are clueless why 90% of all women you would see on screen were in good shape and mostly hot. Especially the ones dating average guys, geeky guys in movies. The 'geeky guy gets the hot girl' narrative is PURE WOKE PANDERING to the ego of average men and as average looking women want to see themselves in these movies too, as the average men are presented, even though i miss the hot girls, i do not cry about the casting as woke, when i KNOW, we got almost 100 years of hot girls, for that reason.

Thats generally considered one of the worst movies ever made and a universally panned casting choice.

 

[SuperAlly]

It’s fantasy. It’s make believe, and it’s art so Who cares? And why?

I hear Am I racist is doing well in theatres

Deviant-e about to claim it as woke to further his arguments

 

[SuperAlly]

It's never been true that you go woke, you go broke.

The absurdity of it was always obvious when they constantly accuse Hollywood of being liberal and woke but Hollywood continues to profit and thrive.

If they were right, we'd be inundated with Gina Carano and Jim Cavaziel masterpieces instead...

That'll be why the Acolyte has been renewed for another season too

 

[SuperAlly]

Japan is its own thing. Their pride and nationalism is practically a cult

He's also in Japanese games lol, him being a character in a game isn't even new

So now you're admitting the Japanese did have an issue with it

Awesome how you can 180 your arguments and still pretend you were always correct

 

[SuperAlly]

William, the critical grifter, reviewed the latest The Boys season without even watching lol

It seems William torments your every waking moment

Like a Scottish guy called William banged your wife

 

[SuperAlly]

So he concedes that he's selectively picking movies based on his personal arbitrary interpretation of a term that he doesn't even necessarily believe in; rather than setting an objective framework such as pointing to movies which have generated a substantial social media pushback surrounding their release with the #woke hashtag attached to the trending topic, or a large number of videos uploaded by the "grifters" he criticizes complaining about a certain movie. Either could be quantified.

Gotcha. So basically his video is meaningless, and you lack the constitution to pretend it is. You won't even defend his points, or address my own.

Waiting for what? A 40-year domestic box office revenue low? Because that happened. Still hasn't recovered. Let's skip ahead to where you scapegoat COVID as an out for your ridiculous argument that could only have been made because you were too lazy, ignorant, and oblivious to box office proceeds to realize it walked itself off a cliff. Kind of a stupid argument to make since you're just gonna backpedal now, and whine about COVID, eh?

Then let's visit how even that isn't an out:

• For two decades straight from 1985 to 2004 the domestic box office grew every single year.
• In fact, from 1977 to 2013, the latter when the term woke first gained traction in online searches, it grew by an average of 21.2% every year.
• From 2013 to 2019, on the other hand, half of those six years it shrank rather than grew. Across those years, the average change was just +0.75% per year. That's unadjusted for inflation. If adjusted, Hollywood's revenues were diminishing.

And that last period is with the MCU carrying the industry. Generally speaking, this is not an IP associated with wokeism. That's why we tend to focus on the individual performances of movies characterized by "woke" programming. They don't do well. Generally, they're doing poorly, and they're alienating moviegoers.

The woke acolytes in here just get a massive bitch slap with facts

 

[SuperAlly]

I skimmed and didn't see u define woke, not reading it, especially if you've not watched the vid

I'm done with people wasting my time with non serious replies

"People absolutely eviscerate my weak arguments with data and facts so I'm out"

Lamest giving up and turning turtle since Conor v Khabib

 

[deviake]

Why?

Explain it if you can.

Lol, that explains why when I clicked on this page I didn't see anything earlier. I blocked ol' boy after he made 1,000 posts in a row in another thread

 

[SuperAlly]

Why?

Explain it if you can.

You ate awfully arrogant for someone who wrote lame arguments and can't understand a very simple one.

Deviant-e starts a thread raging about anti woke

Claims the "anti woke" and critical Drinker lost their minds over Prey

I posted a video showing Drinker actually liked and praised the movie

The only one who has lost their mind is TS

Who will post entirely contradictory arguments and then claim he was right all along

It's very simple and obvious the point I was making.

Try and follow very simple arguments. If you can.