Elon Musk Agrees to $44b Deal for Twitter

Did not see this coming but why would Elon vote against his own best interest? Trump actually said he wants to kill electric cars going on a rant about how dirty they are to make and how they will destroy the US economy. Now he has changed his tune a bit but still talks about how windmills are killing birds and are not going to be funded under his administration. The people who drive big cars and trucks want nothing to do with Elon's cars and trucks. But the point of the video below is to show how spectacularly well Elon has done under the Biden administration and he was non existent during the Trump era in the highest wealth brackets.

 
Rob Battisti said:
Tbh literally all of Texas looks like that. They need to grow up
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To be fair Leon is dumping his shit on their land. Rand Paul got put in the hospital by his neighbor for doing the same thing, except Rand was putting his yard waste on his neighbor's yard, neighbor warned him once and then power doubled Rand into an ambulance when Rand did it again. Sometimes that is the only way people listen.
It is quite simple, keep your shit on your own land. I think anyone would agree to that sentiment.
 
44nutman said:
To be fair Leon is dumping his shit on their land. Rand Paul got put in the hospital by his neighbor for doing the same thing, except Rand was putting his yard waste on his neighbor's yard, neighbor warned him once and then power doubled Rand into an ambulance when Rand did it again. Sometimes that is the only way people listen.
It is quite simple, keep your shit on your own land. I think anyone would agree to that sentiment.
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I didn’t comment on that. How big is the piece of land? How much of the land was “dumped on”? How close was it to SpaceX property?
 
DoctorTaco said:
That’s not an example, it’s a rule he had programmed into his platform.
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But maybe trans is just too general a word? Could try with "trannies" or "homos" and see what happens. Maybe there's a way to request what words have been banned from the site?
 
PEB said:
Did not see this coming but why would Elon vote against his own best interest? Trump actually said he wants to kill electric cars going on a rant about how dirty they are to make and how they will destroy the US economy. Now he has changed his tune a bit but still talks about how windmills are killing birds and are not going to be funded under his administration. The people who drive big cars and trucks want nothing to do with Elon's cars and trucks. But the point of the video below is to show how spectacularly well Elon has done under the Biden administration and he was non existent during the Trump era in the highest wealth brackets.

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I think it's pretty simple. Trump is beholden to oil so he ranks on renewables. He's a real estate developer so bemoans windmills because they destroy the view. Elon has endorsed him and let him back on Twitter so Trump is going to talk him up. Maybe he betrays Elon at some point but for now it's one hand washes the other.
 
Rob Battisti said:
I didn’t comment on that. How big is the piece of land? How much of the land was “dumped on”? How close was it to SpaceX property?
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None of that matters. Keep your stuff on your own land. It is really a simple complex.
It is one thing if you asked but if you put your shit on my land without permission, then I move it back to yours the first time and the second time, I keep it or destroy it.
 
44nutman said:
None of that matters. Keep your stuff on your own land. It is really a simple complex.
It is one thing if you asked but if you put your shit on my land without permission, then I move it back to yours the first time and the second time, I keep it or destroy it.
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I don’t disagree I just am having a hard time seeing the 15 milli number coming into play here
 
Siver! said:
You're mistaking Tesla for Elon.

Elon can absolutely fail, that has little to do with Tesla's future. See: WWE and Vince McMahon.
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Not following you at all. By what measure has Vince McMahon failed? He is 78 years old, has been a legendary businessman and even iconic performer in that entertainment business, and recently cashed out his ownership stake for $2B+ cash. If that is an example of failure sign me up!

I also don't see how that has anything to do with Elon Musk who is 100x more wealthy, has founded half a dozen companies worth more than WWE, with much more world defining impact.

How does Elon fail? Do something stupid like go on Rogan, get high, and tweet he is taking the Tesla private at $420 causing a major stock price movement? Nope, still CEO and largest shareholder. Even if Tesla went to $0 overnight, Elon still owns 40%+ of SpaceX, the US's only reliable transport to the ISS that is also building a spaceship to Mars.

You can fantasize all you want, but Elon has succeeded arguably more than anyone in the world has ever succeeded and nothing can take that away.
 
Cartiac said:
Not following you at all. By what measure has Vince McMahon failed? He is 78 years old, has been a legendary businessman and even iconic performer in that entertainment business, and recently cashed out his ownership stake for $2B+ cash. If that is an example of failure sign me up!

I also don't see how that has anything to do with Elon Musk who is 100x more wealthy, has founded half a dozen companies worth more than WWE, with much more world defining impact.

How does Elon fail? Do something stupid like go on Rogan, get high, and tweet he is taking the Tesla private at $420 causing a major stock price movement? Nope, still CEO and largest shareholder. Even if Tesla went to $0 overnight, Elon still owns 40%+ of SpaceX, the US's only reliable transport to the ISS that is also building a spaceship to Mars.

You can fantasize all you want, but Elon has succeeded arguably more than anyone in the world has ever succeeded and nothing can take that away.
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It absolutely is an example of failure.

Vince McMahon has lost ownership of WWE due to scandals. His family has lost control of WWE. This isn't "oh but I'm retiring," this is Vince McMahon being forced out. He founded TKO Holdings in 2023, so there's no pretence to be found that Vince doesn't still want to be in charge. He has lost control of his lifetime's work and cannot even leave it to his children, as was largely expected since forever.

You can, of course, pretend it's not failure for x reason or y reason, and yes, Vince is far from bankrupt, but this exact scenario can easily play out for Musk and Tesla/SpaceX if he keeps fucking it up. Will he be broke? No, but can we at least be mature enough to acknowledge that the filthy rich don't play by the same rules as you or I? You might want Vince failure, you might want Elon failure, but neither of those characters want that failure - but one already has, and the other feels like a timebomb.

Elon isn't bigger than either company, and when it is (almost) inevitably restructured with him no longer in the picture, that is failure, plain and simple. Don't be naive. Nobody is so successful they are immune to corporate failure. They can all be expelled.
 
Cartiac said:
Not following you at all. By what measure has Vince McMahon failed? He is 78 years old, has been a legendary businessman and even iconic performer in that entertainment business, and recently cashed out his ownership stake for $2B+ cash. If that is an example of failure sign me up!

I also don't see how that has anything to do with Elon Musk who is 100x more wealthy, has founded half a dozen companies worth more than WWE, with much more world defining impact.

How does Elon fail? Do something stupid like go on Rogan, get high, and tweet he is taking the Tesla private at $420 causing a major stock price movement? Nope, still CEO and largest shareholder. Even if Tesla went to $0 overnight, Elon still owns 40%+ of SpaceX, the US's only reliable transport to the ISS that is also building a spaceship to Mars.

You can fantasize all you want, but Elon has succeeded arguably more than anyone in the world has ever succeeded and nothing can take that away.
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Money is nice, but Elon wants to be loved and admired. But, as his own kid says, the only ones that now do are "degenerate red-pilled incels and pick-mes."

Musk is not respected at all by his peers or really any halfway decent person. He's a pariah in that world now.
 
Siver! said:
It absolutely is an example of failure.

Vince McMahon has lost ownership of WWE due to scandals. His family has lost control of WWE. This isn't "oh but I'm retiring," this is Vince McMahon being forced out. He founded TKO Holdings in 2023, so there's no pretence to be found that Vince doesn't still want to be in charge. He has lost control of his lifetime's work and cannot even leave it to his children, as was largely expected since forever.

You can, of course, pretend it's not failure for x reason or y reason, and yes, Vince is far from bankrupt, but this exact scenario can easily play out for Musk and Tesla/SpaceX if he keeps fucking it up. Will he be broke? No, but can we at least be mature enough to acknowledge that the filthy rich don't play by the same rules as you or I? You might want Vince failure, you might want Elon failure, but neither of those characters want that failure - but one already has, and the other feels like a timebomb.

Elon isn't bigger than either company, and when it is (almost) inevitably restructured with him no longer in the picture, that is failure, plain and simple. Don't be naive. Nobody is so successful they are immune to corporate failure. They can all be expelled.
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You have a severe lack of understanding regarding how public companies actually work. Vince didn't lose ownership, he owned 35% of TKO no one can force him out of that. That is kinda the thing with owning something, it is literally yours, like you actually own it. He sold because he wanted to. Are Zuffas failures because they sold UFC? Is Bill Gates a failure because he has resigned as CEO, chairman of the board, and the board of Microsoft entirely? Are the founders of every single public company ever failures because they IPO'ed which means they sold their company to the public?


Your argument is completely senseless and I'm not interested in following your moving of the goal posts trying to shift to some moral superiority crap about class rules.

Vince's son in law also still runs WWE so it ain't exactly out of the family.
 
Cartiac said:
You have a severe lack of understanding regarding how public companies actually work. Vince didn't lose ownership, he owned 35% of TKO no one can force him out of that. That is kinda the thing with owning something, it is literally yours, like you actually own it. He sold because he wanted to. Are Zuffas failures because they sold UFC? Is Bill Gates a failure because he has resigned as CEO, chairman of the board, and the board of Microsoft entirely? Are the founders of every single public company ever failures because they IPO'ed which means they sold their company to the public?


Your argument is completely senseless and I'm not interested in following your moving of the goal posts trying to shift to some moral superiority crap about class rules.
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"He sold because he wanted to."

This is a lie. I don't believe you even believe this, I think you've just told a barefaced lie. If we're just going to lie to each other, and I mean blatantly tell the stupidest lies imaginable, then I think this discussion is at an end.
 
Siver! said:
"He sold because he wanted to."

This is a lie. I don't believe you even believe this, I think you've just told a barefaced lie. If we're just going to lie to each other, and I mean blatantly tell the stupidest lies imaginable, then I think this discussion is at an end.
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I guess it is beyond your realm of comprehension but I am serious bro. Some people actually do own things. Are you Chinese? Maybe that is why you don't understand that concept of ownership? You won't believe this, but I actually own things, lots of things actually, cars, homes, clothes, shoes, even companies.

Sometimes it is actually hard for me to believe it myself and I do sometimes questions if my entire life is a complete dogfaced lie but short of the cartel showing up at my door with automatic weapons making me face the truth, I'm not selling any of my things unless I want to.
 
Cartiac said:
I guess it is beyond your realm of comprehension but I am serious bro. Some people actually do own things. Are you Chinese? Maybe that is why you don't understand that concept of ownership? You won't believe this, but I actually own things, lots of things actually, cars, homes, clothes, shoes, even companies.

Sometimes it is actually hard for me to believe it myself and I do sometimes questions if my entire life is a complete dogfaced lie but short of the cartel showing up at my door with automatic weapons making me face the truth, I'm not selling any of my things unless I want to.
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I still don't believe you, I'm sorry, but this was at least an amusing post.
 
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