Law Elon calls for impeachment of any judge who rules against him

[AmonTobin]

DOGE has no transparency. I really don't know where you got the idea that they did.

It's a hoax, dude. It's just partisan bullshit with no real oversight or transparency. He's got so many conflicts of interest it's patently absurd that he's even allowed to be in this position.

It is absurd that he’s allowed to be in this position. Not elected, not approved by any committee, just appointed by Trump’s executive order and they pussy-footed about who was running Doge when pressed in court. Elon said he wasn’t in charge but then Trump says Elon is in charge.

Locking government workers out of their computers/offices/buildings. Giving the database keys to some college hackers. Firing inspector generals and blocking the real government auditing agencies. Cutting already approved financial aid. Firing excellent employees without justification.

There’s a reason why the courts are reversing doges actions. Because they’re breaking laws.

 

[Ares Black]

You do realise that you are linking from an organisation that was until recently, receiving massive government funding right?

"U.S. District Judge Christopher Cooper said the vast and “unprecedented” authority of DOGE, formerly known as the U.S. Digital Service, combined with its “unusual secrecy” warrant the urgent release of its internal documents under the Freedom of Information Act."

For a start, that is complete bullshit. DOGE has no power at all, they are auditors, nothing more.

These government departments are part of which branch of government?

Ok dude. You can believe whatever you want.


I'm just surprised you are so gullible.

 

[Ares Black]

It is absurd that he’s allowed to be in this position. Not elected, not approved by any committee, just appointed by Trump’s executive order and they pussy-footed about who was running Doge when pressed in court. Elon said he wasn’t in charge but then Trump says Elon is in charge.

Locking government workers out of their computers/offices/buildings. Giving the database keys to some college hackers. Firing inspector generals and blocking the real government auditing agencies. Cutting already approved financial aid. Firing excellent employees without justification.

There’s a reason why the courts are reversing doges actions. Because they’re breaking laws.

Absolutely absurd, and clearly illegal. Not to mention reckless and cruel.

It's also absurd that otherwise intelligent people don't seem to see any problem with it.

 

[AmonTobin]

So... you at least admit that the original assertion was completely bullshit and he DOES pay tax, you just disagree with the amount of tax he pays.

Thank you... was it really that hard?

So you’re comfortable pretending that paying an unfairly low amount of tax one time 4 years ago means he pays his taxes? Come on, man.

 

[AmonTobin]

Absolutely absurd, and clearly illegal. Not to mention reckless and cruel.

It's also absurd that otherwise intelligent people don't seem to see any problem with it.

Ya I really don’t get the cheerleading squad. Musk is a straight up villain as far as I’m concerned.

 

[Contempt]

"The judge noted that DOGE’s speed and the fluidity of its leadership appear to be by design. He is ordering “rolling” productions of DOGE records to begin within weeks."

A federal judge is ordering something that was NEVER previously required. Who demands that an auditor give continual rolling updates during the audit?

...I guess it's convenient that they ARE giving continual rolling updates on doge.gov then LOL

 

[Ares Black]

"The judge noted that DOGE’s speed and the fluidity of its leadership appear to be by design. He is ordering “rolling” productions of DOGE records to begin within weeks."

A federal judge is ordering something that was NEVER previously required. Who demands that an auditor give continual rolling updates during the audit?

...I guess it's convenient that they ARE giving continual rolling updates on doge.gov then LOL

Because they are not auditors


It is absolutely wild to me that you think Musk is honest.

 

[Contempt]

Ok dude. You can believe whatever you want.


I'm just surprised you are so gullible.

So, you would believe the unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that were previously making the spending decisions with zero scrutiny more?

My opinion comes from a quarter of a century consulting into mostly federal government departments, seeing the massive fraud, waste and abuse here... if anyone thinks it's any different over there, I have a bridge to sell them.

 

[Ares Black]

So, you would believe the unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats that were previously making the spending decisions with zero scrutiny more?

My opinion comes from a quarter of a century consulting into mostly federal government departments, seeing the massive fraud, waste and abuse here... if anyone thinks it's any different over there, I have a bridge to sell them.

Why do you think Musk and Trump are honest?

Why do you believe their goal is government efficiency?

What in the world?

 

[AmonTobin]

"The judge noted that DOGE’s speed and the fluidity of its leadership appear to be by design. He is ordering “rolling” productions of DOGE records to begin within weeks."

A federal judge is ordering something that was NEVER previously required. Who demands that an auditor give continual rolling updates during the audit?

...I guess it's convenient that they ARE giving continual rolling updates on doge.gov then LOL

The courts are demanding a level of accountability to match the unprecedented infiltration and raiding of government departments with impunity up to this point. Makes sense to me. If Elon has some “fraud and corruption” to show the American people, what’s the hold up? You’d think he’d be in a hurry to publish those findings.

 

[Contempt]

Because they are not auditors


It is absolutely wild to me that you think Musk is honest.

How are they NOT auditors exactly? What power does Musk have to enact ANY changes at all within these government departments?

The head of the executive branch, of which all of these government departments belong, has sent in people to review all the spending within those departments and then the heads of those departments make decisions on their findings. What does this process sound like to you?

 

[Ares Black]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!


Elon Musk is so obviously corrupt and dishonest. It's absolutely insane to give him unprecedented access to government agencies.

 

[Ares Black]

How are they NOT auditors exactly? What power does Musk have to enact ANY changes at all within these government departments?

Who's going to stop him?

The head of the executive branch, of which all of these government departments belong, has sent in people to review all the spending within those departments and then the heads of those departments make decisions on their findings. What does this process sound like to you?

It sounds like you are very gullible if you honestly think that's what is happening and you believe they have good intentions.

 

[Contempt]

Why do you think Musk and Trump are honest?

Why do you believe their goal is government efficiency?

What in the world?

Why are you so convinced they aren't?

Agree with them or not, they are both smart guys. They know very well that taking such actions will make half the country hate their guts and risk their lives. They are both rich as holy fuck, they don't need the aggravation. If it was simply about money, why would they take actions, they know would make half their customers hate them?

I 100% trust that they both believe that what they are doing is in the best interest of the country, whether you agree or not is entirely up to you.

 

[Contempt]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!


Elon Musk is so obviously corrupt and dishonest. It's absolutely insane to give him unprecedented access to government agencies.

Just because you state that doesn't make it true. We are all however, entitled to our own opinions.

 

[Ares Black]

Just because you state that doesn't make it true. We are all however, entitled to our own opinions.

It's obvious, dude. There is a lot of evidence that he is dishonest. And a lot that he is a bad person.

It seems you are a poor judge of character.

 

[Ares Black]

Why are you so convinced they aren't?

Well, all the lying is a problem.

Agree with them or not, they are both smart guys.

Hahahahaha well, Musk is kinda smart, in a way.

They know very well that taking such actions will make half the country hate their guts and risk their lives.

They don't give a shit, because now that they control the government there's no need to care.

They are both rich as holy fuck, they don't need the aggravation. If it was simply about money, why would they take actions, they know would make half their customers hate them?

It's not about money. It's about power.

I 100% trust that they both believe that what they are doing is in the best interest of the country,

Then you are a fool.

whether you agree or not is entirely up to you.

I do not

 

[Contempt]

Who's going to stop him?

It sounds like you are very gullible if you honestly think that's what is happening and you believe they have good intentions.

He has ZERO authority to do anything. He makes recommendations but all the actions are taken by the heads of the departments being audited.

As you know, I don't have a dog in this fight; I am simply sitting on the sidelines, on the other side of the world and making up my mind, based on what is publicly available and parsing through a filter of logic and reason.

The difference between myself and the far left, is that they start from the position that conservatives are evil and progress from there, I however don't.

 

[Ares Black]

He has ZERO authority to do anything. He makes recommendations but all the actions are taken by the heads of the departments being audited.

As you know, I don't have a dog in this fight; I am simply sitting on the sidelines, on the other side of the world and making up my mind, based on what is publicly available and parsing through a filter of logic and reason.

The difference between myself and the far left, is that they start from the position that conservatives are evil and progress from there, I however don't.

I am honestly taken back by your naivete, Sherbro.

It's shocking.

 

[Contempt]

It's obvious, dude. There is a lot of evidence that he is dishonest. And a lot that he is a bad person.

It seems you are a poor judge of character.

OK, no problem, feel free to share this "evidence". Bear in mind, there is a big difference between being dishonest and being incorrect on an issue. You started this conversation by stating that you have been wrong previously.

Has Elon ever stated that he is never wrong?