Law Elon calls for impeachment of any judge who rules against him

[Contempt]

You trust a billionaire who retweets white nationalist propaganda, doesn’t pay taxes, wants to stop people from collecting their social security and prevented his home country from receiving foreign aid? Not me.

Here's a source that you'll love: CNN

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/10/investing/elon-musk-tesla-zero-tax-bill/index.html

Musk just paid the largest individual tax bill anywhere in world history at 11 billion US dollars.

Show me where he said that he "wants to stop people from collecting their social security" ...I'll wait

A country implements bullshit racist policies and he advocated for aid to be withheld unless they fix it? Remember apartheid? A LOT of countries did this and it helped influence positive change... yeah, I'm 100% fine with that.

 

[Crazy Source]

To the people who reacted to this post with laugh emojis, what's funny about this, exactly?

Because it was so absurd. But you're right. It's serious business.

 

[Contempt]

What are you even talking about? This is what an appropriations bill looks like.

One of the clauses in it.

"Sec. 8031. None of the funds appropriated by this Act may be used for the procurement of ball and roller bearings other than those produced by a domestic source and of domestic origin: Provided, That the Secretary of the military department responsible for such procurement may waive this restriction on a case-by-case basis by certifying in writing to the Committees on Appropriations of the House of Representatives and the Senate, that adequate domestic supplies are not available to meet Department of Defense requirements on a timely basis and that such an acquisition must be made in order to acquire capability for national security purposes: Provided further, That this restriction shall not apply to the purchase of “commercial products”, as defined by section 103 of title 41, United States Code, except that the restriction shall apply to ball or roller bearings purchased as end items."

Oh good god

"An appropriation bill, also known as supply bill or spending bill, is a proposed law that authorizes the expenditure of government funds. It is a bill that sets money aside for specific spending."

The key part here is: "sets money aside for specific spending" It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the departments general budget allocation or spending.

This is a pretty sad excuse for a strawman dude...

 

[avenue94]

Oh good god

"An appropriation bill, also known as supply bill or spending bill, is a proposed law that authorizes the expenditure of government funds. It is a bill that sets money aside for specific spending."

The key part here is: "sets money aside for specific spending" It has absolutely NOTHING to do with the departments general budget allocation or spending.

This is a pretty sad excuse for a strawman dude...

It's literally the law. A department ignoring appropriations laws from Congress is acting illegally. Most spending has some guardrails on what it can be used for, otherwise every agency would abuse it. They may not get down to " you can only buy 100 pencils, not 99", but at that point you're just being pedantic.

 

[AmonTobin]

Musk just paid the largest individual tax bill anywhere in world history at 11 billion US dollars.

That was 2021 and your article is from 2022. It was during the Biden Admin and it was a decade worth of taxes he hadn’t paid. He hasn’t paid anything since then.

MUSK’S $11 BILLION TAX BILL IS BIG NEWS—BECAUSE IT’S JUST 10% OF HIS WEALTH INCREASE SO FAR THIS YEAR (2021)​

https://americansfortaxfairness.org...ll-big-news-just-10-wealth-increase-far-year/
“Moreover, Musk may have paid little or no federal income taxes since at least 2014—despite his ballooning fortune—so the one-time payment of $8.3 billion (or even $11 billion) in essence covers multiple years.”

 

[Contempt]

It's literally the law. A department ignoring appropriations laws from Congress is acting illegally. Most spending has some guardrails on what it can be used for, otherwise every agency would abuse it. They may not get down to " you can only buy 100 pencils, not 99", but at that point you're just being pedantic.

That is a specific allocation of funds for a specific purpose and has NOTHING to do with the rest of the departments budget. Spending the congress allocated funds WITHIN the government department is controlled by the head of that department.

Congress controls how much money the department gets, not how it's spent.

 

[Contempt]

That was 2021 and it was like a decade worth of taxes he hadn’t paid. He hasn’t paid anything since then.

MUSK’S $11 BILLION TAX BILL IS BIG NEWS—BECAUSE IT’S JUST 10% OF HIS WEALTH INCREASE SO FAR THIS YEAR (2021)​

https://americansfortaxfairness.org...ll-big-news-just-10-wealth-increase-far-year/
“Moreover, Musk may have paid little or no federal income taxes since at least 2014—despite his ballooning fortune—so the one-time payment of $8.3 billion (or even $11 billion) in essence covers multiple years.”

You stated that he didn't pay tax and I even showed you a left wing source to completely disprove that... are you just completely incapable of admitting you were wrong?

 

[avenue94]

That is a specific allocation of funds for a specific purpose and has NOTHING to do with the rest of the departments budget. Spending the congress allocated funds WITHIN the government department is controlled by the head of that department.

Congress controls how much money the department gets, not how it's spent.

And does congress frequently add requirements on how that money is spent or not?

And again have you never seen the DoD'a spending? You clearly have not if you think congress does not dictate how money gets spent.

 

[Andy Capp]

- He is trolling the right. He even breaks kayfaybe from time to time. Hell he even did on that thread!

I have yet to witness that but if so, he's still a shitheel to me.

 

[Contempt]

And does congress frequently add requirements on how that money is spent or not?

And again have you never seen the DoD'a spending? You clearly have not if you think congress does not dictate how money gets spent.

When it's part of an appropriations bill yes, absolutely, because as you have already (apparently) just learned, that's a specific allocation of money for a specific purpose. In general budget allocations, no.

Yes, I am a giant military nerd and I have seen massive specific funding for things such as replacing the aging ballistic missile subs, ancient Minuteman 3 ICBM's and the F35's etc. What does this have to do with the general budget allocations exactly?

 

[AmonTobin]

You stated that he didn't pay tax and I even showed you a left wing source to completely disprove that... are you just completely incapable of admitting you were wrong?

Your exact words:

“Musk just paid the largest individual tax bill anywhere in world history at 11 billion US dollars.”

Your article is from 2022 about a payment made in 2021.
Are you patting him on the back for paying some taxes in 2021 that’s he’s been owing since 2014? He also paid a lower rate than the average American citizen.

 

[Contempt]

Your exact words:

“Musk just paid the largest individual tax bill anywhere in world history at 11 billion US dollars.”

Your article is from 2022 about a payment made in 2021.
Are you patting him on the back for paying some taxes in 2021 that’s he’s been owing since 2014?

So... are you admitting you were wrong yet?

I made no judgement either way on the appropriateness of his level of taxation, just pointing out that your assertion that he doesn't pay tax was entirely full of shit and quite easily, debunked.

 

[Andy Capp]

Because it was so absurd. But you're right. It's serious business.

It's fucking nauseating. I've reacted with a laugh emoji to some fucked up stuff myself, admittedly, but this is on a completely different level than merely absurd.

Between this and the arrest of that guy on the college campus, the rapid erosion of legal protections for people who would oppose government oppression is a clear threat meant to silence opposition of any kind, not just that tied to Palestine or people opposed to DOGE.

 

[AmonTobin]

So... are you admitting you were wrong yet?

I made no judgement either way on the appropriateness of his level of taxation, just pointing out that your assertion that he doesn't pay tax was entirely full of shit and quite easily, debunked.

are you just going to ignore how I corrected you?

 

[Contempt]

are you just going to ignore how I corrected you?

You corrected NOTHING, you were wrong and just won't admit it despite the evidence to prove it.

Find me a single payment from one individual that's larger than $11 billion US dollars in the history of the world... yeah, didn't think so

 

[AmonTobin]

You corrected NOTHING, you were wrong and just won't admit it despite the evidence to prove it.

Find me a single payment from one individual that's larger than $11 billion US dollars in the history of the world... yeah, didn't think so

I did correct you. You don’t have to read the article if you don’t want to. Find me a guy as wealthy as Elon who pays taxes at a lower rate than the average American and only once per decade. And pays no taxes for his companies.

 

[Contempt]

I did correct you. You don’t have to read the article if you don’t want to. Find me a guy as wealthy as Elon who pays taxes at a lower rate than the average American and only once per decade. And pays no taxes for his companies.

You said that Elon "doesn’t pay taxes" in YOUR own words, then you even share a source admitting that he DOES pay taxes, and a shitload of them... yet you STILL won't admit that you were wrong.

...that's just sad.

 

[Khaosan]

Good. Hopefully these conversations are as open and transparent possible, which I think they will, with very invested people on both sides.

It is time to fight it out sherdoggers. We are at a critical mass and one side is going to win over the next few years, and it will be eyes on from everyone, better than any show that could ever be written why AI. We are in the true timeline and it is amazing. Breathe and trump bless

Pathetic lmao

 

[Ares Black]

I agree there are Supreme Court justices who should have lost their positions already after being exposed for corruption but instigating threats online is wrong and I’m happy Justice Barrett and Chief Justice John Roberts voted against Trump's effort to freeze foreign aid.

It's wild that Clarence Thomas hasn't faced any sort of consequences

 

[Kingz]

Right on cue. What kind of judge is saying the executive branch can’t scale back, remove and strongly recommend against DEI programs?

Easy overrule but some district judge thought “the President can’t end DEI in the executive!”

Why would a president be able to waive civil service rules at a whim? There's a proper way to fire workers, follow it. That's straight forward enough.

Do you also oppose venue shopping by the GOP? I'm personally fine with randomizing judge assignments, or for that matter supreme court assignments.

At any rate, your complaint is moot given multiple judges across the country rejected Trump's illegal efforts.

The judiciary and quite a few democrats supported reforms to stop venue shopping. But Texas' most extreme jurisdictions and the GOP fought this reform. Seems a little hypocritic to only now be concerned with venue shopping, doesn't it?

Are you sure you're against venue shopping in general, or only when it aligns with your partisan preferences?

I’m against it in general. But obviously in a world where it exists and is used a lot by democrats then I support republicans judge shopping as well. I would also prefer randomizing district court judges.

For now, it’s more annoying than it’s a crisis though because the appeals courts are a little more even as of now so I’d advise Trump and Elon to be patient rather than go on offense against the judiciary. Especially since the chances of impeaching and removing a federal judge are extremely remote.