International Egypt sentences girls who posted TikTok videos to 2-3 years prison. Crime : violating public morals

[MVelsor]

Coconut muslims.

Textually there is no justification for liberal behavior. However, from a secular stand point it is a good thing.

I've made friends with two gay Muslim brehs this year, one of them is foreign born. They're both closeted to their families though.

 

[TUFNewb]

If I was working at the embassy, these are the type of people I would be reaching out to and offering them asylum in our country if they were willing.

Import people that want freedom and are persecuted. Don't import people that oppose freedom and want to oppress.

Won't go over too well with the right wing.

Remember when Trudeau took in that Saudi girl? According to them he wasn't importing a persecuted freedom lover, he was a cuck importing a degenerate slut roastie... all part of his plan to ruin Canada lol.

 

[Oceanmachine]

I've made friends with two gay Muslim brehs this year, one of them is foreign born. They're both closeted to their families though.

I understand religion is a cope for many. However, I do honestly feel only the fundamentalists are legit religious. Religious who have a problem with textual authority do it out of insecurity or a desire to keep doing behavior that their religion clearly forbids. However, if one questions or excuses some actions you then call into question the entire validity of the book if you start picking and choosing.

However, Muslim family and being gay sounds hard. I take it they will reject. Sometimes violently. I read a story from Dagestan of a father who put out a hit on his son for being gay and trans. When he found out his son was killed he celebrated.

 

[nac386]

You'll be a full blown fundamentalist by middle age.



Muslim-Americans are being rapidly corrupted, by the "DNC" and the likes of @nac386. Those percentage shifts are massive. It's obviously quite convenient and cool 'n stuff but 'acceptance' is kind of whatever tbh, unless you mean within the framework of legal rights. If it's illegal then yeah that's a big problem.

I notice a lot of societal pros and cons regarding religion. Religion can be the impetus for some amazing stuff that often gets overlooked. The local Church here always has a fundraiser going for the local schools and less-fortunate families in the area. They raise an impressive amount of money in short periods for such a small church, which shows just how giving and caring the church-goers are. I do not see that same level of charity from very many places.

But there's a flip side of course, where some people focus on all the wrong aspects of religion (in my entirely subjective, biased, etc, opinion). With all the positive, loving, beneficial things that one could focus on, why does anybody choose to spend so much of their time focused on condemnation? It's strange to me. I have no space in my heart for hate, it seems like a total waste of time, and a miserable way to go through life.

I've made friends with two gay Muslim brehs this year, one of them is foreign born. They're both closeted to their families though.

Sounds like you're doing the corrupting <45>

I understand religion is a cope for many. However, I do honestly feel only the fundamentalists are legit religious. Religious who have a problem with textual authority do it out of insecurity or a desire to keep doing behavior that their religion clearly forbids. However, if one questions or excuses some actions you then call into question the entire validity of the book if you start picking and choosing.

However, Muslim family and being gay sounds hard. I take it they will reject. Sometimes violently. I read a story from Dagestan of a father who put out a hit on his son for being gay and trans. When he found out his son was killed he celebrated.

It is interesting how we sort of draw a line on where people can be considered truly religious. How much of your religious book do you need to believe in before you're considered truly religious? If you're Christian, do you have to believe Jonah actually lived in the belly of a whale? Or is it enough to just believe in Jesus? Or, is it enough just to believe in the morality of his teaching? I think everybody draws the line in a different place.

But one thing is clear, no matter what your religion is (talking about the Abrahamic religions), you are going to have a rough time coming out of the closet to your family if they are significantly religious. There are plenty of horror stories from right here in the states.

 

[sherdogwantedtonamemekiki]

Edit your comment.

You say "f@ck her" and go on about china why?


It is sort of similar in Israel I was reading. They have a quasi democracy but the secularists dont want judicial reform. And hold a lot of power via justices appointed years ago who overturn laws supported by the elected right wing parliament. The religious support more mass welfare for citizens. It seems all religious dominated countries have the same situation. Such as Turkey's secularists really being the minority and using undemocratic means to hold power in the past.

In Latin America the left isnt anti authortarian per say and can be just as racialist and tribal. As Latinos have de facto a caste system of "race realism". It isnt as black and white and always fluidity. But in general pure african and native is at the botton and Muslim is bad. And lighter skin at the top along with good looking wealthy people. The right cares less for welfare as lower races they see as poor or deserving of there situation. But in some areas the left seculariats use the masses to achieve their own agenda. Ortaega a leftist racist as was Che.

Also in much of Latin America the left holds or held power via Judicary support. In Brazil the courts legalized gay marriage against the will of the masses. And courts were left wing. In Brazil and Chile Senators serve 8 year terms and hold supreme power so it allows oligarchy to hold more power then an elected president as Senators will be in power beyond 1 presidential term.

No.

 

[Islam Imamate]

You'll be a full blown fundamentalist by middle age.

Haha, maybe.

Muslim-Americans are being rapidly corrupted, by the "DNC" and the likes of @nac386. Those percentage shifts are massive. It's obviously quite convenient and cool 'n stuff but 'acceptance' is kind of whatever tbh, unless you mean within the framework of legal rights. If it's illegal then yeah that's a big problem.

I only really want tolerance, not necessarily acceptance and especially not if it means compromising one's values.

What's interesting is that the few conservatives who actually respect our religious freedom are far less likely to make us bend over backwards for acceptance when compared to the left-liberals. Those conservatives understand that protecting the religious freedom of Muslims is important because if our religious freedom is undermined that can set up an erosion of their freedom down the line. And most of the time they accept the doctrinal differences between us as part of a plural yet religious society. Unfortunately this type of conservative is a rare and dying breed, more common are the right wingers who have no problem singling out Muslims for intolerance.

While not as bad as the intolerant right by a good margin left-liberals present their own problem for Muslims. They have a scorched earth mentality in the culture wars, especially now that they've had the upper hand for the last few years. If you don't fit the proper corporate friendly liberal mold beware of cancellation. This is why I don't like seeing Muslims getting on that bandwagon, one day they'll come for you for merely espousing orthodox doctrine like they do to Christians.

 

[Gregolian]

Haha, maybe.

I only really want tolerance, not necessarily acceptance and especially not if it means compromising one's values.

What's interesting is that the few conservatives who actually respect our religious freedom are far less likely to make us bend over backwards for acceptance when compared to the left-liberals. Those conservatives understand that protecting the religious freedom of Muslims is important because if our religious freedom is undermined that can set up an erosion of their freedom down the line. And most of the time they accept the doctrinal differences between us as part of a plural yet religious society. Unfortunately this type of conservative is a rare and dying breed, more common are the right wingers who have no problem singling out Muslims for intolerance.

While not as bad as the intolerant right by a good margin left-liberals present their own problem for Muslims. They have a scorched earth mentality in the culture wars, especially now that they've had the upper hand for the last few years. If you don't fit the proper corporate friendly liberal mold beware of cancellation. This is why I don't like seeing Muslims getting on that bandwagon, one day they'll come for you for merely espousing orthodox doctrine like they do to Christians.

I take issue with the scorched Earth left as well as they have a ton of privileged white folks That think they know how minorities SHOULD think and what you need. Which when you confront them is a form of soft racism they start calling you an Uncle Tom and shit

 

[Islam Imamate]

I take issue with the scorched Earth left as well as they have a ton of privileged white folks That think they know how minorities SHOULD think and what you need. Which when you confront them is a form of soft racism they start calling you an Uncle Tom and shit

We're so polarized that some left-liberals assume that "if you're not with us, then you're with them!"

There is some truth to that; there are actual "Uncle Toms" out there who shit on their own to curry favor with the the part of the right that is intolerant. But the term is perhaps abused a bit too much and some left-liberals assume we'll agree with them wholesale just because they're not as bad as the intolerant right and find themselves a little confused when we don't.

 

[Gregolian]

We're so polarized that some left-liberals assume that "if you're not with us, then you're with them!"

There is some truth to that; there are actual "Uncle Toms" out there who shit on their own to curry favor with the the part of the right that is intolerant. But the term is perhaps abused a bit too much and some left-liberals assume we'll agree with them wholesale just because they're not as bad as the intolerant right and find themselves a little confused when we don't.

A good example for this I have experienced. When I was in college I was working on a political science degree. And took a class called "Race and Politics" with a professor that was a Black Panther for a short time. Was a very interesting class.

ONE KID in the class told me that I shouldn't accept people using the word "Oriental" cause of how it's supposedly a pejorative and my response cause I was hungover that day:
"You, a white person... are going to tell me a person that is actual Asian what should offend me? Let me guess, you've laughed at or made an Asian driver or Asian math student joke in which case you can shut the fuck up"

That mentality pisses me off so much. I had a coworker as a bouncer that was black (well, I had multiple) and we had an East Indian guy too and the way we would talk to each other taken out of context people would have thought we were all hate mongers. One time someone came back after closing to get their CC (they forgot to pay out their tab) and got bent out of shape when I called the East Indian guy a "mountainous goat fucker" and this white liberal got all pissy about it just for that coworker to go "how do you know I don't fuck goats?" and they were instantly disarmed.

People like that seem stunned when you go contrary to what they think minorities should think.

 

[Islam Imamate]

A good example for this I have experienced. When I was in college I was working on a political science degree. And took a class called "Race and Politics" with a professor that was a Black Panther for a short time. Was a very interesting class.

ONE KID in the class told me that I shouldn't accept people using the word "Oriental" cause of how it's supposedly a pejorative and my response cause I was hungover that day:
"You, a white person... are going to tell me a person that is actual Asian what should offend me? Let me guess, you've laughed at or made an Asian driver or Asian math student joke in which case you can shut the fuck up"

That mentality pisses me off so much. I had a coworker as a bouncer that was black (well, I had multiple) and we had an East Indian guy too and the way we would talk to each other taken out of context people would have thought we were all hate mongers. One time someone came back after closing to get their CC (they forgot to pay out their tab) and got bent out of shape when I called the East Indian guy a "mountainous goat fucker" and this white liberal got all pissy about it just for that coworker to go "how do you know I don't fuck goats?" and they were instantly disarmed.

People like that seem stunned when you go contrary to what they think minorities should think.

Yeah there's an interesting paradox when it comes to political correctness. Its ostensibly supposed to protect minorities but often it tends to define the norms around the more privileged sectors of society(politics, middle/upper corporate management, academia) where whites are over-represented. Meanwhile its the working class, disproportionately non-white, that tends to have more dirty, politically incorrect norms around speech. I've worked in construction where you see plenty of non-whites and I can tell you no one complained about microaggressions. I also think part of that is that small contractors have more power over their own work life and therefore don't need some HR cunt to tattle to.

 

[Gregolian]

Yeah there's an interesting paradox when it comes to political correctness. Its ostensibly supposed to protect minorities but often it tends to define the norms around the more privileged sectors of society(politics, middle/upper corporate management, academia) where whites are over-represented. Meanwhile its the working class, disproportionately non-white, that tends to have more dirty, politically incorrect norms around speech. I've worked in construction where you see plenty of non-whites and I can tell you no one complained about microaggressions. I also think part of that is that small contractors have more power over their own work life and therefore don't need some HR cunt to tattle to.

For bouncing it's 100% a coping mechanism.

It's a dangerous job, guys have been stabbed and shit on that job so you're awareness is heightened non stop while on your feet for 4-5 hours and you need a release at some point.

 

[lifelessheap]

Still not sure what tik tok is, and i’m not wasting time googling it either.

It is Chinese spyware that idiots install on their mobile devices.

 

[MVelsor]

Sounds like you're doing the corrupting <45>

<45>

I haven't had full on haram sex with them yet. Anyhow, I really do need to start making some gay friends that I don't feel any attraction towards because we invariably end up doing stuff.

However, Muslim family and being gay sounds hard. I take it they will reject. Sometimes violently. I read a story from Dagestan of a father who put out a hit on his son for being gay and trans. When he found out his son was killed he celebrated.

http://viraltab.news/muslim-dad-slashes-17yo-sons-throat-for-being-gay/

Story By: Victoria Lyndon, Sub Editor: Joseph Golder, Agency: Central European News

These are the shocking injuries suffered by a gay Iraqi teen who survived having his throat slashed by his devout Muslim dad. The 17-year-old, identified by local media as Seran M. to protect his identity, was allegedly attacked by his father at their home in the central-western Swiss canton of Bern.

According to the teen, he woke up with his dad standing over him holding a knife against his throat. The unnamed father then screamed at him “you are gay, you are gay?!” before slicing his throat with the blade, according to reports.

Seran, who is of Iraqi descent, told local media: “I have always hidden my homosexuality from my family.” Despite being aware of the contentious issue in his religion, the teenager said that he still cannot understand how his own father could have done such a thing to him.

Seran believes he survived the ordeal by pure luck after managing to fight off his dad before jumping over the balcony. Local media said that neighbours called the emergency services and Seran had to be flown to the University Hospital of Bern due to the severe injuries to his throat, chest, back and arms.

“We are living in 2019 and my dad wanted me dead because I am attracted to men. I just cannot accept that.” He also said that it is vital homosexuals are not oppressed by family members. Following the alleged attack, the local police arrested Seran’s dad although it is currently unclear when he will stand trial.

 

[Oceanmachine]

<45>

I haven't had full on haram sex with them yet. Anyhow, I really do need to start making some gay friends that I don't feel any attraction towards because we invariably end up doing stuff.



http://viraltab.news/muslim-dad-slashes-17yo-sons-throat-for-being-gay/

Story By: Victoria Lyndon, Sub Editor: Joseph Golder, Agency: Central European News

These are the shocking injuries suffered by a gay Iraqi teen who survived having his throat slashed by his devout Muslim dad. The 17-year-old, identified by local media as Seran M. to protect his identity, was allegedly attacked by his father at their home in the central-western Swiss canton of Bern.

According to the teen, he woke up with his dad standing over him holding a knife against his throat. The unnamed father then screamed at him “you are gay, you are gay?!” before slicing his throat with the blade, according to reports.

Seran, who is of Iraqi descent, told local media: “I have always hidden my homosexuality from my family.” Despite being aware of the contentious issue in his religion, the teenager said that he still cannot understand how his own father could have done such a thing to him.

Seran believes he survived the ordeal by pure luck after managing to fight off his dad before jumping over the balcony. Local media said that neighbours called the emergency services and Seran had to be flown to the University Hospital of Bern due to the severe injuries to his throat, chest, back and arms.

“We are living in 2019 and my dad wanted me dead because I am attracted to men. I just cannot accept that.” He also said that it is vital homosexuals are not oppressed by family members. Following the alleged attack, the local police arrested Seran’s dad although it is currently unclear when he will stand trial.

Idk why they cant just disown and leave it at that. Instead they feel the need to go kill.

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/transgender-muslim-woman-hacked-death-russia-days-marrying-man/

Raina Aliev’s own own father had gone on television publicly called for her murder.

‘Bring him here and kill him in front of my eyes,’ Alimshaikh Aliev had told a local TV station.

‘Let him be killed, I don’t want to see him. Bring him here and kill him in front of my eyes.’

Aliev, 25, had gender confirmation surgery in Moscow and married a man named Viktor, according to the Daily Mail.

 

[MVelsor]

Idk why they cant just disown and leave it at that. Instead they feel the need to go kill.

https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/transgender-muslim-woman-hacked-death-russia-days-marrying-man/

Raina Aliev’s own own father had gone on television publicly called for her murder.

‘Bring him here and kill him in front of my eyes,’ Alimshaikh Aliev had told a local TV station.

‘Let him be killed, I don’t want to see him. Bring him here and kill him in front of my eyes.’

Aliev, 25, had gender confirmation surgery in Moscow and married a man named Viktor, according to the Daily Mail.

That's about as bad as it gets for white Euro/Americans these days. It's really more like 'estranged' in my case than "disowned" (I'm too cool and make too much money lolz) but my bf was flat out disowned and kicked out of the house when he was still a teenager, hasn't seen his parents since.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...stabbing-outside-lgbt-youth-shelter-1.7577291

A 16-year-old boy was stabbed and seriously wounded outside an LGBT youth shelter in south Tel Aviv on Friday. Police suspect that the teenager was attacked by relatives because of their objection to his sexual orientation and are pursuing suspects, who fled the scene.

Family members of the victim have tried to bring him back to Tamra a number of times, and on Friday, two of his brothers came to the entrance of the shelter, where the three had an argument. The police know their identities and consider the two to be suspects, and are conducting a broad search for them.

Etai Pinkas Arad, who holds The LGBT portfolio in the Tel Aviv-Jaffa Municipality, said that "When the country is full of inflammatory signs, when religious leaders of most faiths are allowing our blood to be spilled, when the education minister wants to 'convert' us, there are those who hear that message and go from words to action." He added, "Hate is the revolting common denominator for all who pretend to represent the will of god through violent acts."

 

[SATW]

That's about as bad as it gets for white Euro/Americans these days. It's really more like 'estranged' in my case than "disowned" (I'm too cool and make too much money lolz) but my bf was flat out disowned and kicked out of the house when he was still a teenager, hasn't seen his parents since.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...stabbing-outside-lgbt-youth-shelter-1.7577291

A 16-year-old boy was stabbed and seriously wounded outside an LGBT youth shelter in south Tel Aviv on Friday. Police suspect that the teenager was attacked by relatives because of their objection to his sexual orientation and are pursuing suspects, who fled the scene.

Family members of the victim have tried to bring him back to Tamra a number of times, and on Friday, two of his brothers came to the entrance of the shelter, where the three had an argument. The police know their identities and consider the two to be suspects, and are conducting a broad search for them.

Etai Pinkas Arad, who holds The LGBT portfolio in the Tel Aviv-Jaffa Municipality, said that "When the country is full of inflammatory signs, when religious leaders of most faiths are allowing our blood to be spilled, when the education minister wants to 'convert' us, there are those who hear that message and go from words to action." He added, "Hate is the revolting common denominator for all who pretend to represent the will of god through violent acts."

Terrible story
Arab city, something that Haaretz dont mention enough clearly
In gaza they just getting thrown from a building
In Israel they can at least escape to tel aviv
Who would have predicted that his family members will follow him to there
Probably security guard would have prevented it

 

[MVelsor]

Terrible story
Arab city, something that Haaretz dont mention enough clearly
In gaza they just getting thrown from a building
In Israel they can at least escape to tel aviv
Who would have predicted that his family members will follow him to there
Probably security guard would have prevented it

http://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-n...elter-charged-with-attempted-murder-1.7738835

Two brothers from the northern Arab town of Tamra were indicted on Sunday, along with a friend of theirs, for the attempted murder in July of their teenage brother outside the Beit Dror LGBT hostel in Tel Aviv in a stabbing attack.

The victim's 28 and 23 year old brothers and their friend, Jamal Kanai, 24, are accused of stabbing the 16-year-old victim due to their objection to his sexual identity.

The two brothers are also charged with aggravated wounding in connection with a separate incident in March in which they allegedly attacked the teen. A fourth defendant, 26-year-old Wassim Abu Hamed of Salem in the north, is charged with assisting the main defendants.

The victim was in critical condition on his arrival at the hospital, where doctors removed a portion of a lung and his gall bladder to stabilize his condition. The prosecution claims that, following the arrest of the two brothers, family members attempted to persuade the victim to change his account and tell the police that he did not know who stabbed him.

 

[SATW]

http://www.haaretz.com/amp/israel-n...elter-charged-with-attempted-murder-1.7738835

Two brothers from the northern Arab town of Tamra were indicted on Sunday, along with a friend of theirs, for the attempted murder in July of their teenage brother outside the Beit Dror LGBT hostel in Tel Aviv in a stabbing attack.

The victim's 28 and 23 year old brothers and their friend, Jamal Kanai, 24, are accused of stabbing the 16-year-old victim due to their objection to his sexual identity.

The two brothers are also charged with aggravated wounding in connection with a separate incident in March in which they allegedly attacked the teen. A fourth defendant, 26-year-old Wassim Abu Hamed of Salem in the north, is charged with assisting the main defendants.

The victim was in critical condition on his arrival at the hospital, where doctors removed a portion of a lung and his gall bladder to stabilize his condition. The prosecution claims that, following the arrest of the two brothers, family members attempted to persuade the victim to change his account and tell the police that he did not know who stabbed him.

at least he is alive, hope he is doing ok
must be hell to recover from that

in jail they will get the perfect punishment

 

[Oceanmachine]

at least he is alive, hope he is doing ok
must be hell to recover from that

in jail they will get the perfect punishment

How is jail? Arent Arabs separate from Jews and vice versa?

 

[MVelsor]

at least he is alive, hope he is doing ok
must be hell to recover from that

in jail they will get the perfect punishment

I don't know how. It was three (four?) grown men in their mid-20s with knives attacking a little gay teenager and they couldn't murder him? The other kid literally got his throat slashed up, still managed to fight off his dad and jump the damn balcony.