International E Jean Carroll Bests Donald J Trump to the Tune of $83 million

[Whippy McGee]

Do you have any links to this stuff you keep saying? Her original filing says it happened in the late '95 or spring '96.

She changed the date when it was revealed that the dress she claimed to have been wearing was found to not have been designed, sold, or available in that timeline. Trump offered DNA and the judge refused it and refused to allow the dress into evidence when the timeline issue was discovered. The case is a farce by a lady claiming to have been raped 7 times, but never went to the police. She also thinks rape is "sexy".

 

[PainIsLIfe]

She changed the date when it was revealed that the dress she claimed to have been wearing was found to not have been designed, sold, or available in that timeline. Trump offered DNA and the judge refused it and refused to allow the dress into evidence when the timeline issue was discovered. The case is a farce by a lady claiming to have been raped 7 times, but never went to the police. She also thinks rape is "sexy".

Again; do you have a link to that claim?

Trump offered DNA after he spent over 3 years arguing not to give it and only after he found out there wasnt semen on the dress.

The judge excluded the dress for 2 reasons. 1-because it didn't have semen and could only prove she had been in contact with Trump at some time. 2-because Trump offered the DNA after the time limit to submit evidence had passed.

 

[Whippy McGee]

Again; do you have a link to that claim?

Trump offered DNA after he spent over 3 years arguing not to give it and only after he found out there wasnt semen on the dress.

That's not why they actually offered. They offered because then they knew the dress would be forced to be admitted into evidence, which the Defense and Judge were working together to stop when it was revealed the dress was not made until AFTER the date E. Jean Carroll had claimed it happened. It would have ended the case for the woman that claims to have been raped 7 times.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

That's not why they actually offered. They offered because then they knew the dress would be forced to be admitted into evidence, which the Defense and Judge were working together to stop when it was revealed the dress was not made until AFTER the date E. Jean Carroll had claimed it happened. It would have ended the case for the woman that claims to have been raped 7 times.

The judge excluded the dress for 2 reasons. 1-because it didn't have semen and could only prove she had been in contact with Trump at some time. 2-because Trump offered the DNA after the time limit to submit evidence had passed.

And for the 4th time..... link on date change.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

The judge excluded the dress for 2 reasons. 1-because it didn't have semen and could only prove she had been in contact with Trump at some time. 2-because Trump offered the DNA after the time limit to submit evidence had passed.

And for the 4th time..... link on date change.

If there's no semen on the dress, what could possibly link it to trump?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

If there's no semen on the dress, what could possibly link it to trump?

I think the dress come up originally. As in ztrump said he never met her/didn't know her. She offered the dress and asked for dna from Trump - he absolutely refused.

After the time limit to introduce evidence passed the Carol team said they tested and their was male dna, but no semen. That's when Trump offered his dna.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

I think the dress come up originally. As in ztrump said he never met her/didn't know her. She offered the dress and asked for dna from Trump - he absolutely refused.

After the time limit to introduce evidence passed the Carol team said they tested and their was male dna, but no semen. That's when Trump offered his dna.

Sorry, what I meant was what kind of DNA could they have that isn't semen and would survive thirty odd years on a dress?

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

One is an Author/Journalist while the other is a Businessman/Politician. Hmmmmm......

I do however believe that Trump is the superior liar, therefore, I'd believe her over him.

"Carroll said that on her way out of the Bergdorf Goodman department store, she ran into Trump, and he asked for help buying a gift for a woman. After suggesting a handbag or a hat, the two reportedly moved on to the lingerie section, and joked about the other trying some on. Carroll said they ended up in a dressing room together, the door of which was shut, and Trump forcefully kissed her, pulled down her tights, and raped her with his penis before she was able to escape. She stated that the incident lasted less than three minutes."

I could actually invision him having the nerve to pull something like that off.

 

[Bob Gray]

Civil trial has no presumption of innocence. Trump could have made it 'she said, he said', but chose to let it be just she said.

Theres still a preponderance of the evidence, which means more than an accusation. Theres a standard that needs to be met just to get to trial.

I brought it up earlier, but you think this goes to civil trial if someone accuses Obama of rape 30 years ago, on an unspecificed date, and the only evidence they present is two friends that claim she told them it happened?

Be honest, here. Which former president's see the inside of a courtroom, even civil court, with that claim?

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Sorry, what I meant was what kind of DNA could they have that isn't semen and would survive thirty odd years on a dress?

I don't know anything about DNA samples, but supposedly it has male DNA on the dress, just not semen.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Theres still a preponderance of the evidence, which means more than an accusation. Theres a standard that needs to be met just to get to trial.

I brought it up earlier, but you think this goes to civil trial if someone accuses Obama of rape 30 years ago, on an unspecificed date, and the only evidence they present is two friends that claim she told them it happened?

Be honest, here. Which former president's see the inside of a courtroom, even civil court, with that claim?

What evidence was there against Bill Clinon besides a woman's accusation?

 

[Bob Gray]

What evidence was there against Bill Clinon besides a woman's accusation?

Case against Clinton was thrown out first, and then only came back after appeal once he was impeached for the whole screwing an intern with a cigar thing.

It also wasn't 30 years prior, and she could be put with Clinton at the place and time she alleged it happened.

Why don't you answer my question before asking me one?

Do you think this goes to civil trial if someone accuses Obama of rape 30 years ago, on an unspecificed date, and the only evidence they present is two friends that claim she told them it happened?

 

[Witchhunt]

Case against Clinton was thrown out first, and then only came back after appeal once he was impeached for the whole screwing an intern with a cigar thing.

It also wasn't 30 years prior, and she could be put with Clinton at the place and time she alleged it happened.

Why don't you answer my question before asking me one?

Do you think this goes to civil trial if someone accuses Obama of rape 30 years ago, on an unspecificed date, and the only evidence they present is two friends that claim HE told them it happened?

FTFY

 

[Bob Gray]

FTFY

No you didn't. You brought up something that never happened.

2 people said Trump mentioned he raped Carrol and that was used as evidence to start a civil suit? What are you talking about?

 

[Witchhunt]

No you didn't. You brought up something that never happened.

2 people said Trump mentioned he raped Carrol and that was used as evidence to start a civil suit? What are you talking about?

Fuck, I must be high!

 

[Hog-train]

I'm pretty sure he isnt:

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/06/trump-carroll-appeals-court-arguments-00177766

Sauer argued that testimony from Leeds about the alleged airplane encounter should have been excluded because, at the time, there was no federal law against sexual assault on an airplane. Kaplan, however, countered that there was a law in place at the time that prohibited “simple assault.”


This is Trump's brilliant lawyers. Not saying hey, heresy and lies. Nope, they argue that 1 of the witnesses shouldn't be able to testify because there wasnt a law on the books that said you can't sexually assault someone on a plane. Lol

Do you understand what hearsay is? What you just posted has nothing to do with hearsay.

But this stuff is also not applicable because it has nothing to do with this trial. In a criminal trial, this 1979 story wouldn't have even seen the courtroom.

The more "evidence" I see about this trial, the more convinced how much of a sham it was.

I do however believe that Trump is the superior liar, therefore, I'd believe her over him.

"Carroll said that on her way out of the Bergdorf Goodman department store, she ran into Trump, and he asked for help buying a gift for a woman. After suggesting a handbag or a hat, the two reportedly moved on to the lingerie section, and joked about the other trying some on. Carroll said they ended up in a dressing room together, the door of which was shut, and Trump forcefully kissed her, pulled down her tights, and raped her with his penis before she was able to escape. She stated that the incident lasted less than three minutes."

I could actually invision him having the nerve to pull something like that off.

That sounds fucking retarded and a lie a JHS student would tell.

 

[Hugh G Rection]

I don't know anything about DNA samples, but supposedly it has male DNA on the dress, just not semen.

Honestly, I don't either.
I didn't think DNA would last that long on clothing unless it had been stored correctly (which is possible).

 

[PainIsLIfe]

That's not why they actually offered. They offered because then they knew the dress would be forced to be admitted into evidence, which the Defense and Judge were working together to stop when it was revealed the dress was not made until AFTER the date E. Jean Carroll had claimed it happened. It would have ended the case for the woman that claims to have been raped 7 times.

Just asking for a link - 5th time.

The judge said the dress couldn't prove rape without semen and Trump had refused dna. So the judge tossed the dress as a compromise.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

Case against Clinton was thrown out first, and then only came back after appeal once he was impeached for the whole screwing an intern with a cigar thing.

It also wasn't 30 years prior, and she could be put with Clinton at the place and time she alleged it happened.

Why don't you answer my question before asking me one?

Do you think this goes to civil trial if someone accuses Obama of rape 30 years ago, on an unspecificed date, and the only evidence they present is two friends that claim she told them it happened?

Before you ignore my answer of maybe, you need to realize that there was nothing to put Clinton alone with that woman

And it didn't com back after impeachment; he was impeached over his lying during his deposition in that civil suit.

 

[PainIsLIfe]

No you didn't. You brought up something that never happened.

2 people said Trump mentioned he raped Carrol and that was used as evidence to start a civil suit? What are you talking about?

He's implying that Obama would have raped a guy.