Dricus being around +200 is insane too much

[Kaiokenrye24]

He’s had enough fights by now that it should be clear that he’s a dangerous fighter with a method to his madness that it’s nuts that gets he’s continually discounted. I think he will not just beat Khamzat but get a finish.

Khamzat isn’t going to outmuscle Dricus and his gas tank is unproven, what am I missing here? I’m not a gambler I just want to know why he’s such a big underdog here

 

[KO Shotz]

It's simply because it's Dricus. Nothing in his arsenal is considered to be elite or even the best of the division. He's not technical, he's unorthodox as fck, & has one of the weirdest styles ever. But all of that is what makes him an anomaly & incredibly hard to figure out.

Also Khamzat has been incredibly hyped & pushed as the next big thing for years & the UFC is gonna ride his "stock" as long as possible.

DDP is one of those guys who will be doubted up until all of his accomplishments are looked back on & appreciated.

 

[Ibm]

DDP is going to win. Expect Khamzat to throw haymakers.

 

[KO Shotz]

DDP is going to win. Expect Khamzat to throw haymakers.

I expect Chimaev to shoot ten seconds into the fight.

 

[Oddmonster]

He’s had enough fights by now that it should be clear that he’s a dangerous fighter with a method to his madness that it’s nuts that gets he’s continually discounted. I think he will not just beat Khamzat but get a finish.

Khamzat isn’t going to outmuscle Dricus and his gas tank is unproven, what am I missing here? I’m not a gambler I just want to know why he’s such a big underdog here

Wrestling wins fights, and Khamzats wrestling is much better. Dricus has been taken down by people with much worse wrestling. So....Yeah, sad to say, but the odds are in Khamzats favor.

 

[Big Tuppy Hole]

It's simply because it's Dricus. Nothing in his arsenal is considered to be elite or even the best of the division. He's not technical, he's unorthodox as fck, & has one of the weirdest styles ever. But all of that is what makes him an anomaly & incredibly hard to figure out.

Also Khamzat has been incredibly hyped & pushed as the next big thing for years & the UFC is gonna ride his "stock" as long as possible.

DDP is one of those guys who will be doubted up until all of his accomplishments are looked back on & appreciated.

His ability to find a way to win is elite

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Who's betting on Dricus?

Definitely worth it.

 

[Ramon Antonio]

His ability to find a way to win is elite

Also his ability to make professional fighters cry in press conferences.

 

[KO Shotz]

His ability to find a way to win is elite

Agreed.

 

[Thy]

I expect Chimaev to shoot ten seconds into the fight.

4 seconds into it imo.

 

[JBJ was here]

According to bestfightodds.com, odds on DDP average +163, can't be found at longer than +170, and these are the longest odds have been on him since betting actually started in any volume (odds opened at +185 and dropped into the +150s almost immediately once the line started moving). If you can find DDP at +200, definitely make the bet.

Which isn't to say that the odds on DDP aren't longer than they should be, but perhaps checking the odds before making a thread about them would be a good idea.

 

[ExitLUPin]

The Brunson fight was a BAD look for Dricus.



TDs easily. Side control, mount, back with hooks, choke attempts and almost finished in 1st....

Brunson by far is the best grappler Dricus has fought and Khamzat is on another COMPLETELY different level grappling from Brunson when we compare both their Holland performances. Same opponent same grappling approach.... Very different fights

Dricus has only fought strikers since Brunson and even strikers like Rob and Darren got him down. Darren got a reversal and you can see in that clip what Brunson was doing. So odds are saying if Brunson can do that in round 1, get him down at will with dominant positions, almost finish why can't Khamzat who is the most dangerous 1st round fighter in MMA right now.

People can say Brunson fight was 2 years ago but Again since then Dricus has only fought strikers - Rob, Izzy, Sean and his TDD isn't good and he faced no grappling threat. Rob even managed a TD. Look at Dricus kicking in the clip he had no worry about kick being caught and taken down against Izzy, Rob, Sean it's very different with Khamzat.

 

[RockyLockridge]

dricus has deceptively good footwork, People dont know how to handle it. He has weird defenses built into his attacks he's not punching or kicking, he's fighting it's strange and unique. Dricus wins the fights in the moments between the punches and kicks.

 

[Paladin]

He’s had enough fights by now that it should be clear that he’s a dangerous fighter with a method to his madness that it’s nuts that gets he’s continually discounted. I think he will not just beat Khamzat but get a finish.

Khamzat isn’t going to outmuscle Dricus and his gas tank is unproven, what am I missing here? I’m not a gambler I just want to know why he’s such a big underdog here

Easy betting money

 

[Streeter]

Conor was favored over Khabib too.

Dricus wins this easy . They have anointed Khamz the greatest when 2 of the 3 legit tough fights he had he struggled- only beating Bobby convincincing . Khamzat gets exposed in less then a week then likely retires - he doesn't handle adversity well.

 

[wisdom blows]

Nope, that seems right. He’s beat past prime Izzy (who gave him a war), Rob, and had wars with Strickland. He hasn’t fought an elite wrestler in his prime. That’s why he’s the underdog, cuz we’ve heard this song before. The elite wrestler at the highest level usually wins.

 

[wisdom blows]

dricus has deceptively good footwork, People dont know how to handle it. He has weird defenses built into his attacks he's not punching or kicking, he's fighting it's strange and unique. Dricus wins the fights in the moments between the punches and kicks.

Footwork doesn’t matter on your back.

 

[Whitestallion]

He’s had enough fights by now that it should be clear that he’s a dangerous fighter with a method to his madness that it’s nuts that gets he’s continually discounted. I think he will not just beat Khamzat but get a finish.

Khamzat isn’t going to outmuscle Dricus and his gas tank is unproven, what am I missing here? I’m not a gambler I just want to know why he’s such a big underdog here

DDP has been taken down and easily controlled by the bottom of the division, imagine what wOLF does to him.

 

[mkess101]

Conor was favored over Khabib too.

Dricus wins this easy . They have anointed Khamz the greatest when 2 of the 3 legit tough fights he had he struggled- only beating Bobby convincincing . Khamzat gets exposed in less then a week then likely retires - he doesn't handle adversity well.

Conor wasn't favored over Khabib. The line actually mimicked this Khamzat/DDP line a bit. Khabib opened -225ish (I'm estimating but close to that). Casuals bet Conor and it dropped to Khabib around -185 come fight time, right about where Khamzat is now.

 

[fortheo]

The Brunson fight was a BAD look for Dricus.



TDs easily. Side control, mount, back with hooks, choke attempts and almost finished in 1st....

Brunson by far is the best grappler Dricus has fought and Khamzat is on another COMPLETELY different level grappling from Brunson when we compare both their Holland performances. Same opponent same grappling approach.... Very different fights

Dricus has only fought strikers since Brunson and even strikers like Rob and Darren got him down. Darren got a reversal and you can see in that clip what Brunson was doing. So odds are saying if Brunson can do that in round 1, get him down at will with dominant positions, almost finish why can't Khamzat who is the most dangerous 1st round fighter in MMA right now.

People can say Brunson fight was 2 years ago but Again since then Dricus has only fought strikers - Rob, Izzy, Sean and his TDD isn't good and he faced no grappling threat. Rob even managed a TD. Look at Dricus kicking in the clip he had no worry about kick being caught and taken down against Izzy, Rob, Sean it's very different with Khamzat.

• Brunson was nowhere near close to finishing those choke attempts.
• Dricus got up from the first takedown from brunson pretty damn easily.
• The round ended with Brunson looking for a choke that he wasn't close to getting. The more concerning part of that sequence was that brunson stunned dricus with a left hand, and that's the only reason he got that position at the end of the round in the first place. That's more indicative of ddp's striking deficiencies than his grappling deficiencies, in my opinion.
• Holland had a full camp drilling wrestling for Brunson.
• Holland had no camp drilling wrestling for Khamzat
• Holland was bragging for months about how he wasn't wrestling anymore before taking the khamzat fight on a day or two notice
• Khamzat came in 7.5lbs heavy for that holland fight.

Not saying DDP will win, but if I remember correctly, you evaluated Volk's grappling negatively through this same myopic lens before his fight with Islam -- You hyper focused on the fact that he got taken down by lesser opponents, but completely stopped your analysis of the grappling after the takedown and neglected to mention how he wrestled back up easily each time. It's much the same with your read on DDP. He will give up takedowns, but he's very good at wrestling back up and using submission attempts to create space to get back up.

Whether he's good enough to keep chimaev off of him remains to be seen.