dont you just hate how mma has turned to pointfighting?

I hate that fighters don't get finished as easily. They're too smart, too well trained.

Toss some more mediocre talent in there please. I wanna see finishes.
 
van1ty said:
Because if you do, you need to jump off a cliff.

MMA is as exciting as it's ever been, if not moreso. The last two nights showed it, once again.
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Just like your lame rule how fighters should work his way up from the ground without ref help :rolleyes:
 
SuperNerd said:
I hate that fighters don't get finished as easily. They're too smart, too well trained.

Toss some more mediocre talent in there please. I wanna see finishes.
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dont worry, WMMA is on its way to the UFC
 
Not every fight can/will be a finish but finishes will ALWAYS matter in mma. Just accept that whole statement and lets move forward
 
DickRitchie said:
Edgar is the epitome of a point fighter and it's laughable that people try to say he isn't. Great, he managed to knock Maynard out, does that mean Sonnen is a bjj specialist after what he did to Stann? It's not about guys being difficult to put away, it's about what a fighter tries to do in the octagon. Some guys come to fight and that's what we get to see, regardless of whether they got a finish or not. Frankie Edgar comes to score points.

When has Edgar ever done anything with a takedown? When has he not attempted a purely point scoring takedown with less than a minute in the round? When has he committed to landing a hard punch? When has he stood in the pocket and banged?

Edgar scores takedowns and immediately backs away and lets his opponent up. He rarely, if ever, attempts anything on the ground. He always spams takedowns at the end of rounds in order to steal that round. I don't know if I've ever seen him throw punches with bad intentions before. He looks to outscore his opponents and that's it.

Face it, Edgar is out there to sway the judges any way he can, he's admitted as much before. Stop denying the reality of things.

There's a world of difference between a guy like Jim Miller or Ben Henderson's decisions and Frankie Edgar's decisions.
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excellent post, bravo
 
DaGenius said:
Not every fight can/will be a finish but finishes will ALWAYS matter in mma. Just accept that whole statement and lets move forward
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No one's claiming that finishes don't matter, but I keep seeing crap like how decisions should be penalized and how they're wholly illegitimate or prove that none of the guys were really fighting.

Some guys are just hard to finish. Some guys just know how to avoid damage or absorb damage. I just don't like the idea that some people have here that if a fight isn't finished, it isn't really a fight, or doesn't really count.
 
tenniswhiz said:
Generally, it's hard to say MMA is just point fighting. So you do have a good point.
The people who complain about it are pointing to specific fighters.

There are guys at the elite levels; guys like Edgar, MM, and Cruz, who are almost pure point fighters. And they tend to clog up Main Events with 25 minutes of their games.
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Funny how you left out GSP in there. Nice inconspicuous nut huggery
 
sp00k said:
Funny how you left out GSP in there. Nice inconspicuous nut huggery
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I'm the biggest Anderson Silva fan.
I assure you that I've pissed off many a GSP fan on here.

GSP point fights insofar as he would never sacrifice points for a finish... he won't throw a haymaker at a dazed opponent and leave himself open to a TD, he won't pull guard if there is a guillotine available, etc. He also ALWAYS works in a sequence and doesn't look for finish opportunities outside of his planned sequence.
But as a whole, no matter how you feel about him, he's a LOT more sophisticated than Edgar/MM/Cruz and much more interesting to watch than they are.
 
van1ty said:
Because if you do, you need to jump off a cliff.

MMA is as exciting as it's ever been, if not moreso. The last two nights showed it, once again.
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the fights this past weekend were exciting for the exact opposite reason that you just stated.

they were exciting because most of the guys were looking to finish.

i'm honestly surprised that you even made this thread.
 
tenniswhiz said:
I'm the biggest Anderson Silva fan.
I assure you that I've pissed off many a GSP fan on here.

GSP point fights insofar as he would never sacrifice points for a finish... he won't throw a haymaker at a dazed opponent and leave himself open to a TD, he won't pull guard if there is a guillotine available, etc. He also ALWAYS works in a sequence and doesn't look for finish opportunities outside of his planned sequence.
But as a whole, no matter how you feel about him, he's a LOT more sophisticated than Edgar/MM/Cruz and much more interesting to watch than they are.
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since you are an Anderson Silva fan, i am now friend-status with you, fellow Silva nuthugger here
 
What? No embracing of the grind? It takes hard work to grind it out.
 
van1ty said:
Because if you do, you need to jump off a cliff.

MMA is as exciting as it's ever been, if not moreso. The last two nights showed it, once again.
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Uh, I see what you did there
But ya, many of the arguments about the UFC is dying seemingly dropped off since UFC 154
 
I am convince there is a niche of MMA fans who are always ragging from their sand packed vaginas. If they aren't bitching about point fighting, they are crying to take fighters insurance, because a few guys dropped out of a fight, instead of fighting injured.

Some MMA fans need to get the fuck over themselves, because they don't fight themselves, and have no clue what it is like to be a pro fighter, and have a majority, if not all, of their money coming from fighting. But those kinds of fans believe they should just forget about their lively hood, and bang brah.
 
thaiboxer7 said:
GSP fan, huh?
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Funny how GSP is the UFCs biggest draw, yet half of sherdog claims he is so terrible for his "point fighting" and "not taking risks"

Apparently climbing into a cage for a pro fight is not taking a risk.

Big difference between fighting safe, and fighting stupid.

Just bang brah.
 
tenniswhiz said:
I'm the biggest Anderson Silva fan.
I assure you that I've pissed off many a GSP fan on here.

GSP point fights insofar as he would never sacrifice points for a finish... he won't throw a haymaker at a dazed opponent and leave himself open to a TD, he won't pull guard if there is a guillotine available, etc. He also ALWAYS works in a sequence and doesn't look for finish opportunities outside of his planned sequence.
But as a whole, no matter how you feel about him, he's a LOT more sophisticated than Edgar/MM/Cruz and much more interesting to watch than they are.
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And these guys are all champions....hmmm wonder why? They fight smart....not safe.. What is safe about fighting someone else?
 
van1ty said:
imo seth actually won that fight... but whatever. yea i didn't like it either.

smith/ricci was a good fight. if you don't think so, i don't know what to tell you. smith was looking to finish the whole time, and imposed his will.
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I thought Pierce/Baczynski was way better than Smith/Ricci.
 
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