dont you just hate how mma has turned to pointfighting?

You can thank the UFC and Dana White for the more exciting fights I believe. He has always pushed for more exciting fights, but it seems like he is really dropping the hammer more than normal lately. Even Jon Fitch is finally accepting it.
 
An opinion that differs from mine is stupid.

I'd say that I had heard dumber things, but no, this will always be the dumbest response to a discussion on differing opinions.
Umm... there are plenty of things that people can disagree with me about and I think they have valid points, but I disagree. ie: I think Seth beat Pierce on Friday, but I understand why people disagree, and why Pierce got the decision.

Suggesting that all decisions are really just ties because "one fighter wasn't strong enough to finish the other" is patently nonsense.

GSP vs Fitch was not a tie, and you are an idiot if you believe it was or should be scored as such. There is not room for disagreement on this point.
 
You can thank the UFC and Dana White for the more exciting fights I believe. He has always pushed for more exciting fights, but it seems like he is really dropping the hammer more than normal lately. Even Jon Fitch is finally accepting it.
Jon Fitch has always been an entertaining fighter. The problem is opponents who fight to not get finished, instead of fighting to win.
 
Decisions aren't worth any more than a tie to me. All it shows me is that the fighter wasn't powerful enough to stop his opponent.
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there are good fights and bad fights...but the good definitely outweigh the bad. mma is still fresh.
 
Decisions aren't worth any more than a tie to me. All it shows me is that the fighter wasn't powerful enough to stop his opponent.

It does prove that the guy wasn't powerful enough to stop his opponent but a decision automatically equal a tie? No chance in hell. Some of the best fights ever are decisions and do prove who the superior fighter is.
 
edgar's a point fighter? he's been fighting animals with massive size advantages, and he still managed to KO maynard.

cruz nearly finished demetrious in his last fight with a rnc in the 4th.

i mean god forbid cruz can't finish guys like faber, demetrious, and benavidez, who we all know are so easy to stop. aldo couldn't even put faber away.

Props to Edgar for fighting bigger dudes and KOing Maynard but finishing people and inflicting damage is not the norm for him. Point fighting to me is knowing for a fact that a fight isn't going to be finished from round 1. The fight doesn't need to be finished for excitement but it has to have the element that anything can happen.
 
edgar's a point fighter? he's been fighting animals with massive size advantages, and he still managed to KO maynard.

cruz nearly finished demetrious in his last fight with a rnc in the 4th.

i mean god forbid cruz can't finish guys like faber, demetrious, and benavidez, who we all know are so easy to stop. aldo couldn't even put faber away.

Edgar is the epitome of a point fighter and it's laughable that people try to say he isn't. Great, he managed to knock Maynard out, does that mean Sonnen is a bjj specialist after what he did to Stann? It's not about guys being difficult to put away, it's about what a fighter tries to do in the octagon. Some guys come to fight and that's what we get to see, regardless of whether they got a finish or not. Frankie Edgar comes to score points.

When has Edgar ever done anything with a takedown? When has he not attempted a purely point scoring takedown with less than a minute in the round? When has he committed to landing a hard punch? When has he stood in the pocket and banged?

Edgar scores takedowns and immediately backs away and lets his opponent up. He rarely, if ever, attempts anything on the ground. He always spams takedowns at the end of rounds in order to steal that round. I don't know if I've ever seen him throw punches with bad intentions before. He looks to outscore his opponents and that's it.

Face it, Edgar is out there to sway the judges any way he can, he's admitted as much before. Stop denying the reality of things.

There's a world of difference between a guy like Jim Miller or Ben Henderson's decisions and Frankie Edgar's decisions.
 
Umm... there are plenty of things that people can disagree with me about and I think they have valid points, but I disagree. ie: I think Seth beat Pierce on Friday, but I understand why people disagree, and why Pierce got the decision.

Suggesting that all decisions are really just ties because "one fighter wasn't strong enough to finish the other" is patently nonsense.

GSP vs Fitch was not a tie, and you are an idiot if you believe it was or should be scored as such. There is not room for disagreement on this point.

Though I do not agree with the sentiment of a "tie", I do see some validity in the point of not being capable of finishing your opponent. And this coming from a Ben Henderson fan (When was his last finish? Cerrone in the WEC? Too lazy to look it up, but that's probably true.)

Some people will argue that a lopsided decision (Diaz vs Henderson per se) is more meaningful than a quick KO (Such as Cerrone vs Gullaird.) I disagree with this completely.
 
Edgar is the epitome of a point fighter and it's laughable that people try to say he isn't. Great, he managed to knock Maynard out, does that mean Sonnen is a bjj specialist after what he did to Stann? It's not about guys being difficult to put away, it's about what a fighter tries to do in the octagon. Some guys come to fight and that's what we get to see, regardless of whether they got a finish or not. Frankie Edgar comes to score points.

I sort of agree with you here, though I always felt Edgar was more of a "safe" fighter than a point fighter. His wrestling is good so he takes guys down. His BJJ not so much, so he typically just gives up the top position and returns to his feet. He does have power, though he chooses not to pursue when he gets in a good shot (Maynard 3 being the one exception, and he definitely hesitated even in that instance.)

When has Edgar ever done anything with a takedown? When has he not attempted a purely point scoring takedown with less than a minute in the round? When has he committed to landing a hard punch? When has he stood in the pocket and banged?

Edgar scores takedowns and immediately backs away and lets his opponent up. He rarely, if ever, attempts anything on the ground. He always spams takedowns at the end of rounds in order to steal that round. I don't know if I've ever seen him throw punches with bad intentions before. He looks to outscore his opponents and that's it.

Face it, Edgar is out there to sway the judges any way he can, he's admitted as much before. Stop denying the reality of things.

There's a world of difference between a guy like Jim Miller or Ben Henderson's decisions and Frankie Edgar's decisions.

I sort of agree with you here, though I always felt Edgar was more of a "safe" fighter than a point fighter. His wrestling is good so he takes guys down. His BJJ not so much, so he typically just gives up the top position and returns to his feet. He does have power, though he chooses not to pursue when he gets in a good shot (Maynard 3 being the one exception, and he definitely hesitated even in that instance.)

I also hate the argument that X fighter fights to a decision a lot too, so you must hate X fighter as well. I believe there is a huge difference in the way Benson Henderson or even GSP win decisions as compared to the way Frankie Edgar and Jon Fitch win decisions. (Excluding last fight, where he was like Fitch 2.0)
 
Edgar is the epitome of a point fighter and it's laughable that people try to say he isn't. Great, he managed to knock Maynard out, does that mean Sonnen is a bjj specialist after what he did to Stann? It's not about guys being difficult to put away, it's about what a fighter tries to do in the octagon. Some guys come to fight and that's what we get to see, regardless of whether they got a finish or not. Frankie Edgar comes to score points.

When has Edgar ever done anything with a takedown? When has he not attempted a purely point scoring takedown with less than a minute in the round? When has he committed to landing a hard punch? When has he stood in the pocket and banged?

Edgar scores takedowns and immediately backs away and lets his opponent up. He rarely, if ever, attempts anything on the ground. He always spams takedowns at the end of rounds in order to steal that round. I don't know if I've ever seen him throw punches with bad intentions before. He looks to outscore his opponents and that's it.

Face it, Edgar is out there to sway the judges any way he can, he's admitted as much before. Stop denying the reality of things.

There's a world of difference between a guy like Jim Miller or Ben Henderson's decisions and Frankie Edgar's decisions.

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Such a point fighter, its painful. :rolleyes: Lol your argument is pathetic and goes nowhere, just incoherent rambling to be quite honest.

Oh, and how about put your bias aside before you try and accuse someone of "point fighting". You clearly favoring Bendo doesn't exactly help you along in terms of believablility.
 
Edgar is the epitome of a point fighter and it's laughable that people try to say he isn't. Great, he managed to knock Maynard out, does that mean Sonnen is a bjj specialist after what he did to Stann? It's not about guys being difficult to put away, it's about what a fighter tries to do in the octagon. Some guys come to fight and that's what we get to see, regardless of whether they got a finish or not. Frankie Edgar comes to score points.

When has Edgar ever done anything with a takedown? When has he not attempted a purely point scoring takedown with less than a minute in the round? When has he committed to landing a hard punch? When has he stood in the pocket and banged?

Edgar scores takedowns and immediately backs away and lets his opponent up. He rarely, if ever, attempts anything on the ground. He always spams takedowns at the end of rounds in order to steal that round. I don't know if I've ever seen him throw punches with bad intentions before. He looks to outscore his opponents and that's it.

Face it, Edgar is out there to sway the judges any way he can, he's admitted as much before. Stop denying the reality of things.

There's a world of difference between a guy like Jim Miller or Ben Henderson's decisions and Frankie Edgar's decisions.

Dude the guy in your avatar has never finished a fight in the UFC. YOur opinion is invalid because of just that. Edgar also went for more finishes in their 2 fights then Bendo ever did.

Edgar has fought 3 opponents in his last 6 fights. Penn,Maynard, and Henderson. Bendo has been finished once in his career(In 2007). Maynard has been finished once(Compliments of Edgar),BJ Penn has been finished twice in his entire career(To GSP and Hughes). Nick Diaz and Rory MacDonald get praise for dominating a undersized Penn when neither of them could finish him. Edgar dominates his second fight against Penn and he still gets labeled as a point fighter.

Edgar goes to war and his fights are always action packed. Look at who he has fought. The guy has had 13 fights and only 1 of them was a gimme(versus Veach). Otherwise hes fought a bunch of really good guys.

I figured when Bendo just absolutely dismantled a monster like Nate Diaz, Edgar would have won some respect from the haters, especially when he won the second fight. I guess we will just have to wait until he gives Aldo his toughest test yet before some of you give him his due.
 
also, i'd like to point out that the fight that won FOTN went to a decision.

this card wasn't great because of the finishes. they were just great fucking fights.

its not all about finishes obviously. I don't recall anyone saying shogun vs hendo wasnt a great fight because there was no finish involved.

Even fights with finishes can be terrible. see mir v cro cop....

I think when people complain, myself included, about pointfighting it is in regards to a specific fighter or fight.
 
Oh BTW DickRitchie, When Edgar fought Bocek, He TKOed him in the first round. When Ben Henderson fought him, he point fighted his way to a decision.
 
Thanks for telling us what we should and shouldn't like.

douche.
 
UFC promotes finishes.

Every pre fight hype Goldberg blabs about a knockout or finish.

Deal with it.
 
Mad knockouts this weekend. Good fights in general. The knockouts were just the icing on the cake.
 
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