Crime DOJ, FBI reach conclusion: Epstein didn't actually have a client list after all!

[Rob Battisti]

That's true, but it needs to be pointed out that Trump is probably on that list. Him and Epstein were thick as thieves for years and Trump is a renowned cooz-hound. I mean c'mon................

It’s likely that he partook as I’ve said before

 

[Crazy Source]

If only hegseth had bondis job, we could have all read the Epstein files from the screenshots of his signal chat.

What a shitshow this admin is. It’s actually great to watch the chuds make excuses for all this shit.

You knew the next four years would be like this. The mental gymnastics are impressive and hilarious. It sucks that the country is getting fucked up a bit, but I try to look on the bright side of things, cause why not?

 

[Rob Battisti]

I’m shaking my head in disbelief that anyone can think that Biden didn’t release it because he was such a good guy he didn’t want to implicate Trump.

Meanwhile everyone was calling Trump a Nazi and a threat to democracy. But, no way we could tell the truth about his illegal sex with minors! That wouldn’t be right!

 

[Crazy Source]

It’s likely that he partook as I’ve said before

I thought that was the case, but your comment was lacking that context, so I felt the obligation to add it.

 

[matheuss92]

100%. Dan Carlin had a great podcast back in 2015/2016 timeframe called “Day of the Dove” and essentially it was a hypothetical if the top 1000 important people in the world had all of their personal information released at once. Every file, text convo, dirty secret. What would it do to the world?

I think we need a reset, but at the same time I don’t want to live in the time when the reset happens. That’s why I honor what we did during the revolution so much. My goodness it could never happen today.

Im sorry, far from me to sound argumentative, but what do you think the american people would do?

From an outsider? You guys wont do shit. Too numb of a society... anesthetized even. The idea you guys have to demand with your own hands to be served by the State, not to serve it, feels alien. Got too deep in a confort zone to actually fight back and react to the absurd weve been seeing

 

[Crazy Source]

I’m shaking my head in disbelief that anyone can think that Biden didn’t release it because he was such a good guy he didn’t want to implicate Trump.

Meanwhile everyone was calling Trump a Nazi and a threat to democracy. But, no way we could tell the truth about his illegal sex with minors! That wouldn’t be right!

Nobody is saying Biden didn't release it because he is such a good guy you goofball. Biden didn't want to rock the boat and he knew that it wouldn't help him politically. The MAGA cult wouldn't believe anything anyway, and Biden would be painted as petty and the whole thing a witch hunt.

And Trump is a threat to democracy. He tried to overturn a fucking election. Just because it didn't work doesn't give him a pass. He currently has a well-funded (the most funded LE agency in our history) Gestapo under his total control that are masked an unidentified doing whatever the fuck they want. Spare me the "They're calling Trump a Nazi! So unfair!" bullshit.

 

[Mr Holmes]

I’m shaking my head in disbelief that anyone can think that Biden didn’t release it because he was such a good guy he didn’t want to implicate Trump.

Meanwhile everyone was calling Trump a Nazi and a threat to democracy. But, no way we could tell the truth about his illegal sex with minors! That wouldn’t be right!

Blue-anon level stuff in here.

 

[Crazy Source]

Blue-anon level stuff in here.

Holmes-level comment here.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I think that Biden should have released evidence of anyone who conducted illegal activity particularly pertaining to sexual activity with minors in relation to Epstein. If that included trump, then absolutely. I don’t believe anyone should be above justice when it comes to having sex with minors. The idea that GM is convicted, but there isn’t a single person with enough evidence to implicate despite years of being able to build a case is ludicrous to anyone with a brain. I’d like to think you have a brain but maybe I’m wrong.

Feds indicted both Epstein and GM so if they were really trying to protect these Epstein associates why would they charge them in the first place? Not to mention after the 2019 indictment they released the names of four unindicted co-conspirators who were identified in the 2009 Epstein case but whose names were not released as part of the plea deal in that case. The issue is those co-conspirators are merely women who worked for Epstein and not a salacious list of celebrities so CTers like you don't care. It shows that its not about justice because if it was you'd be calling for a closer look into Sarah Kellen, Lesley Groff, Adriana Ross and Nada Marcinkova. But think about it, if they're seemingly struggling to build a case against these four women who were named by Epstein victims as accomplices how are they going to charge these supposed clients? You understand that building a case that would lead to a conviction requires more than merely gathering enough evidence to convince CTers right?

I think it’s absolutely hilarious to think that simultaneously they changed laws to try to convict Trump of felonious activity but implicating him with a known sex trafficker who he had a clear relationship was a bridge too far. Even if it wasn’t an official White House position, it’s insane to believe that if Biden had any evidence on Trump related to Epstein it wouldn’t have been leaked.

This is a good example of the sleight of hand that CTers use. You say "they" here but the law you're referring to was a New York state law, not a federal one, so it had nothing to do with the Biden admin. But those whose minds are infected by conspiracies see a collective "they" behind these supposed schemes.

If anything its insane to believe that the Biden DOJ would leak sensitive evidence about that case. If there was enough evidence to indict him they would've done that and if not then they wouldn't release the evidence because that's wildly irresponsible and would leave the government open to being sued. Trump was already being investigated for his actual crimes like trying to steal the 2020 election, a real conspiracy that CTers ignored.

The only reason it wouldn’t be is if it implicated a far greater intelligence operation or tied back to Biden himself.

More likely, it was never released, and never will be released, because it was a mossad/CIA op.

Or maybe, just maybe...there is no list? After all, what would stop them from just releasing heavily redacted versions of these documents that protect their interests while implicating their enemies?

 

[Soggust]

I’m shaking my head in disbelief that anyone can think that Biden didn’t release it because he was such a good guy he didn’t want to implicate Trump.

Meanwhile everyone was calling Trump a Nazi and a threat to democracy. But, no way we could tell the truth about his illegal sex with minors! That wouldn’t be right!

Do you think Bill Clinton was guilty of any Epstein activity, despite the fact that a Trump didn’t release files that would theoretically implicate him?

I personally think Biden admin was covering for Clinton. I think Trump is covering for himself. I don’t understand what Israel could possibly have on the USA that would be worth both admins covering it up.

Even if it was a CIA / moussad op I would expect it to be release by one of the parties and I don’t think that’s a valid reason for concealing.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I’m shaking my head in disbelief that anyone can think that Biden didn’t release it because he was such a good guy he didn’t want to implicate Trump.

Meanwhile everyone was calling Trump a Nazi and a threat to democracy. But, no way we could tell the truth about his illegal sex with minors! That wouldn’t be right!

I understand that for cynical people who only think in terms of self interest its hard to understand why others would follow procedure and adhere to norms but these people do in fact exist and a large part of Biden's campaign was predicated on presenting himself as such. That's not to say he was perfect(Hunter Biden pardon was norm breaking and a violation of his own promise) but its a huge leap to think he'd leak sensitive info on Trump despite lacking the evidence to indict him on the matter.

Of course Trump was and remains a threat to democracy but that's why the Jan 6th case was so important. If you want to criticize Biden for failing to protect democracy and stop Trump it should be on how the Jan 6th case was handled instead of this baseless conspiracy thinking.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

I think that Biden should have released evidence of anyone who conducted illegal activity particularly pertaining to sexual activity with minors in relation to Epstein. If that included trump, then absolutely. I don’t believe anyone should be above justice when it comes to having sex with minors. The idea that GM is convicted, but there isn’t a single person with enough evidence to implicate despite years of being able to build a case is ludicrous to anyone with a brain. I’d like to think you have a brain but maybe I’m wrong.

I think it’s absolutely hilarious to think that simultaneously they changed laws to try to convict Trump of felonious activity but implicating him with a known sex trafficker who he had a clear relationship was a bridge too far. Even if it wasn’t an official White House position, it’s insane to believe that if Biden had any evidence on Trump related to Epstein it wouldn’t have been leaked.

The only reason it wouldn’t be is if it implicated a far greater intelligence operation or tied back to Biden himself.

More likely, it was never released, and never will be released, because it was a mossad/CIA op.

I’m less certain Biden would have released any evidence. First of all, he didn’t command the DOJ like Trump does. He let what the agencies act independently, as they should.
Second, I’m sure there are plenty of Democrats implicated in the evidence too, though not to the degree Trump likely is.

But the cope from conservatives is so fucking hilarious. They don’t actually believe what they’re saying. They’re trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.

 

[Jack Reacheround]

Do you think Bill Clinton was guilty of any Epstein activity, despite the fact that a Trump didn’t release files that would theoretically implicate him?

I personally think Biden admin was covering for Clinton. I think Trump is covering for himself. I don’t understand what Israel could possibly have on the USA that would be worth both admins covering it up.

Even if it was a CIA / moussad op I would expect it to be release by one of the parties and I don’t think that’s a valid reason for concealing.

I think it may be a bit presumptive to conclude that this was a Mossad op, and even more so that the CIA was involved.

But two things are certain:
1. Trump was Epstein’s best friend for a decade.
2. This whole thing stinks to high Heaven.

 

[Mr Holmes]

This is a good example of the sleight of hand that CTers use. You say "they" here but the law you're referring to was a New York state law, not a federal one, so it had nothing to do with the Biden admin. But those whose minds are infected by conspiracies see a collective "they" behind these supposed schemes.

Yeah its not like the 2 were being ran by members the same political party and had a shared interest in seeing Trump go down. Thats all wild conspiracy talk!

 

[Crazy Source]

I personally think Biden admin was covering for Clinton.

If anything its insane to believe that the Biden DOJ would leak sensitive evidence about that case. If there was enough evidence to indict him they would've done that and if not then they wouldn't release the evidence because that's wildly irresponsible and would leave the government open to being sued. Trump was already being investigated for his actual crimes like trying to steal the 2020 election, a real conspiracy that CTers ignored.

 

[HOLA]

Do you think Bill Clinton was guilty of any Epstein activity, despite the fact that a Trump didn’t release files that would theoretically implicate him?

I personally think Biden admin was covering for Clinton. I think Trump is covering for himself. I don’t understand what Israel could possibly have on the USA that would be worth both admins covering it up.

Even if it was a CIA / moussad op I would expect it to be release by one of the parties and I don’t think that’s a valid reason for concealing.

The fact that the U.S. government and/or their ally Israel was involved in honeytrapping people (if this is true) in and of itself would probably be something they'd wish to conceal. Even if they found damning information on someone, they still found it out through deceptive, immoral practices. If they were hiring underage girls to prostitute themselves, to gain leverage on someone, that's not a good look. They'd probably instead want to use it surreptitiously, somehow. Or maybe not even use the damning info at all, depending on who was caught up in it.

This behavior would be par for the course for U.S. intel, considering some of the things they've done in the past. Which they successfully kept secret for decades. I'm sure there's even more we'll probably never find out about.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Yeah its not like the 2 were being ran by members the same political party and had a shared interest in seeing Trump go down. Thats all wild conspiracy talk!

The onus is on you to prove some connection there. The Feds were already working on the Jan 6th case so why would they pressure the NY AG to go after Trump? Much more likely is that Leticia James did so on her own to raise her own profile with no connection to the Biden admin.

 

[Crazy Source]

This rabbit hole isn't worth it. We know people in general do nefarious shit. Imagine people doing nefarious shit and having power. We will never know the truth. It is what it is.

I'm more concerned with the things in front of me. Peace!

 

[bandicoot]

(c) Trump made a deal to get something like Mideast Peace for not releasing the list

Challenge: impossible

 

[Rob Battisti]

I’m less certain Biden would have released any evidence. First of all, he didn’t command the DOJ like Trump does. He let what the agencies act independently, as they should.
Second, I’m sure there are plenty of Democrats implicated in the evidence too, though not to the degree Trump likely is.

But the cope from conservatives is so fucking hilarious. They don’t actually believe what they’re saying. They’re trying to convince themselves more than anyone else.

Anyone who keeps focusing on Trump being implicated or not versus the fact that we will never know who is implicated because the government, irrespective of who is in office thinks we’ve fucking stupid, why we aren’t getting any results. In other words, people who focus on Trump being in it or not makes us all fucking stupid.