Does Weili Stand a Realistic Chance Against Shevchenko?

[Deleted member 567183]

As great as Weili is, I honestly don't see any clear paths to victory. Valentina is the most well rounded, skilled woman in the sport, and she's bigger than Weili.

Does anyone actually think Weili wins this?

Weili should defend the SW belt 2 or 3 more times before fighting Valentina

 

[fortheo]

Weili is still making huge improvements between every fight. The fighter that fought joanna was much better than the fighter that fought tecia torres. If weili vs. shevchenko happens, it will be in a year or so. Who know's how good weili will be by then.

 

[Sad Dad]

She’s too small. Val is only going to lose to someone really big and strong

 

[BearGrounds]

Love Weili, but her trapezius development is troubling to me. Not calling her a cheat, but it's a known indicator of PED usage, so she might be using.

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That aside, I don't see what world she beats Shev in. I highly doubt she can outpoint Shev, who is known for being very conservative and careful with her striking. Zhang's best chances would be to lure Shev into exchanges and making it more of a dog fight, but I don't see that even necessarily going her way if it even happens.

Edge to Shev, all day.

 

[Juchi]

Shevchenko is criminally overrated on here. Zhang could definitely take her, she's faster and hits hard, has a legit groundgame too. Size is against her though.

I'm not sure how overrated Valentina is, given that she gave the WGOAT the closest fight of her career since Amanda took the title. I do think that the pressure that Weili applies, along with her strength, skill, speed and durability, will give her a better chance of giving Valentina an exciting fight than any other fighter other than Amanda. The odds will have to be pretty generous, though, for me to take Weili.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Yup i think Andrade will pull an Upset like she did against Chookaigan

Andrade was the favorite to win that fight. Jessica has very little for Valentina imo

 

[Juchi]

If you can't beat Valentina in the clinch you're not going to beat her, period.
Zhang doesn't have the skills to win clinch battles against Valentina, and she's still outmatched in most other areas.

I'm looking forward to the Shevchenko Andrade fight to give me better perspective. I will be surprised, to say the least, if Valentina is any more successful against Jessica than Weili was. While she took more damage from JJ, she delivered far more damage than Valentina did as well, and that was after a horrendous training camp.

 

[Juchi]

Andrade was the favorite to win that fight. Jessica has very little for Valentina imo

You think Val finishes her quicker than Zhang did?

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

You think Val finishes her quicker than Zhang did?

No, not at all. That's not how Valentina fights. Valentina would wear her down over time. Always a possibility she kos Jessica with a headkick i suppose

 

[DivineMind]

Levels to this. If chenko is healthy she puts a whopping on weli

 

[aerius]

I'm looking forward to the Shevchenko Andrade fight to give me better perspective. I will be surprised, to say the least, if Valentina is any more successful against Jessica than Weili was. While she took more damage from JJ, she delivered far more damage than Valentina did as well, and that was after a horrendous training camp.

I'm looking forward to the fight as well, but I'm not sure how much there is to learn. Andrade has made significant changes to her fighting style since her loss to Zhang, comparing how Weili and Valentina do against Jessica doesn't really tell us much about how they'd do against each other.

 

[Conor_Is_Overrated]

She almost lost against Joanna. I mean, arguably she lost against Joanna.

While the Shevchenko-Joanna fight was not really competitive. Shevchenko schooled Holm, held her own against Nunes etc. I think the size difference is important here, and Val wins sonething like 9 of 10 times against Weili.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Well, I guess that answers that question. Nope.

 

[heavy_hands]

Shevchenko is criminally overrated on here. Zhang could definitely take her, she's faster and hits hard, has a legit groundgame too. Size is against her though.

the only reason Valentina doesn’t dominate Nunes is she’s naturally a fair bit smaller. most well rounded woman in mma, hard to argue it

 

[Drugstore Cowboy]

Zhang is a small plodding brawler with glass chin and no defense. Perfect for Shevhenko to land her check hooks all night, throw her on the ground at will, and brutalize her into oblivion.

 

[Kyojiro Kagenuma]

Zhang is a small plodding brawler with glass chin and no defense. Perfect for Shevhenko to land her check hooks all night, throw her on the ground at will, and brutalize her into oblivion.

Damn now Zhang is glass chinned.

Sherdog is ruthless

 

[DebtCollectorMMA]

Left stiff

 

[Sakurabaism]

She's going to retire. She is mentally weak.

 

[Sausage_Carius]

Zhang is a small plodding brawler with glass chin and no defense. Perfect for Shevhenko to land her check hooks all night, throw her on the ground at will, and brutalize her into oblivion.

Weili hasn't been plodding in quite some time. She was bouncing around the cage like she is supposed to. She is also not a brawler like Andrade. She is a counter pressure fighter like Valentina but obviously nowhere near her level.

We also don't know about her chin unless she starts getting dropped in every fight here on out. Maybe she didn't recover so well from the weight cut. Who knows. A lot of these girls are having a hard time making 115. Her team has been pushing for the 125lb champ champ fight in part because they don't want her to cut to 115 too many times.

Well here we are.

Your other points are right on.

 

[tenniswhiz]

Is Valentina ever going to lose the belt?
I feel like she’s going to eventually turn 50 and still hold the belt.