International Do you support toppling the Iranian Regime?

[Osculater]

So close, yet so far away.

Me: "US forcing regime change in Iraq led to the formation of ISIS"

You: "removing Sadam didn't create ISIS.... dismantling Sadam's government created ISIS"

A regime isn't just the guy at the top, it's the government. The whole thing, or at least the vast majority of the leadership structure.

Now we can invade Iran and create ISISIS, eh?


Okay, I'm out!

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Cenk has been wrong & unhinged a lot lately....I sure hope him & his sources are wrong here. I dont know what bizarro planet we are living on. Fools vote in a grifting conman because he "will stop all the wars." Only to make the same ol' nuke WMD unproven claims.... To fund 3 foriegn wars simultaneously....Then just nuke the Muslims ourselves.

 

[filthybliss]

Cenk has been wrong & unhinged a lot lately....I sure hope him & his sources are wrong here. I dont know what bizarro planet we are living on. Fools vote in a grifting conman because he "will stop all the wars." Only to make the same ol' nuke WMD unproven claims.... To fund 3 foriegn wars simultaneously....Then just nuke the Muslims ourselves.

It’s shifty as fuck. Cenk and Ana have been block-heads for the past decade….

The Trump administration is reportedly considering nuking Iran.

The Guardian on Wednesday claimed that the U.S. military has reservations regarding the success of using a bunker-buster bomb, a nonnuclear weapon, to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, buried deep in a mountain. Two defense officials were reportedly briefed that only a tactical nuclear weapon could reach the facility, but The Guardian noted that Trump is not considering using a tactical nuke.

On Thursday, Fox News senior White House correspondent Jaqui Heinrich reported that the White House told her otherwise.

Trump White House Considers Dropping Nukes on Iran

Fox News reports that Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility.

www.yahoo.com

 

[CatchnShoot]

Can't I oppose theocratic totalitarianism everywhere? I don't get your point. I didn't vote for Trump, I am not a republican or close to it either. I am not an isolationist either. I think Iran and Israel should deplete their nuclear system.

Absolutely, and I'm agreeing that it is bad. I am merely pointing out that it's not some "Other" concept and that there are speds at home that want that very thing. That comment wasn't necessarily pointed at you, but more of a general comment.

Like, let's not pretend that this is only a Muslim phenomenon. The current head of the military here is a Christian Nationalist ffs.

 

[avenue94]

Uhhhh...

The post was about the efficacy of the nuclear deterrent.

Showing America blowing through it is the example. Not the argument. Some of you are really missing the point.


You all seem to think bombing is the only thing America learnt during the cold war. Give yourself some credit, sometimes you manage to elect leaders smarter than your populous (you) who understand the basics of geopolitics.

USSR was foreign led regime change through various mechanisms of soft and hard power by multiple Western Nations. The cold war wasn't fought only by two countries guys but America did lead the charge.

It WAS NOT Foreign Imposed Regime Change (FIRC)

It was the stuff that works. The stuff that we (the west) have leaned into and America is currently moving away from. Namely economic coercion.



You know what I was talking about nuclear deterrent not American geopolitics...

Americans are stupid with a failing education system. Just do what highly developed countries do.

We're moving away from Israel... and the countries that remain only do so because America fucking loves them and we kiss your ring (my country)

We're filling the slack where America is failing in Ukraine.

That's what countries with flourishing education systems are doing. Americans need to realize that even though they're in charge you're hardly the brains of the operation at this point. You're the giant retard with with club. Listen to the smart people and swing when we tell you.

Arguing that the USSR was foreign led regime change is completely at odds with the historical record.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

It’s shifty as fuck. Cenk and Ana have been block-heads for the past decade….

The Trump administration is reportedly considering nuking Iran.

The Guardian on Wednesday claimed that the U.S. military has reservations regarding the success of using a bunker-buster bomb, a nonnuclear weapon, to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, buried deep in a mountain. Two defense officials were reportedly briefed that only a tactical nuclear weapon could reach the facility, but The Guardian noted that Trump is not considering using a tactical nuke.

On Thursday, Fox News senior White House correspondent Jaqui Heinrich reported that the White House told her otherwise.

Trump White House Considers Dropping Nukes on Iran

Fox News reports that Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility.

www.yahoo.com

Yeah Trump & his staff say opposite things about all the major issues all the time. Par for course. He is a legit crazy person who has no idea what hes doing. He even said the most bizarre childlike thing. That "he won't know what hes doing to the last second."

Also I love how his administration is spreading that Iran has been behind the assassination attempts against Trump. All while chanting death to America. Yet they want to have the Ayatollah over to the Whitehouse. If pathological lying was an administration....

 

[Mock Artwork]

How many nuclear powers need to be in bombed before people stop overrating the nuclear deterrent?

2 right now. 4 this year. Sample size is 9.

Uhhhh...

The post was about the efficacy of the nuclear deterrent.

Showing America blowing through it is the example. Not the argument. Some of you are really missing the point.


You all seem to think bombing is the only thing America learnt during the cold war. Give yourself some credit, sometimes you manage to elect leaders smarter than your populous (you) who understand the basics of geopolitics.

USSR was foreign led regime change through various mechanisms of soft and hard power by multiple Western Nations. The cold war wasn't fought only by two countries guys but America did lead the charge.

It WAS NOT Foreign Imposed Regime Change (FIRC)

It was the stuff that works. The stuff that we (the west) have leaned into and America is currently moving away from. Namely economic coercion.



You know what I was talking about nuclear deterrent not American geopolitics...

Americans are stupid with a failing education system. Just do what highly developed countries do.

We're moving away from Israel... and the countries that remain only do so because America fucking loves them and we kiss your ring (my country)

We're filling the slack where America is failing in Ukraine.

That's what countries with flourishing education systems are doing. Americans need to realize that even though they're in charge you're hardly the brains of the operation at this point. You're the giant retard with with club. Listen to the smart people and swing when we tell you.

Past your rabid vitriol for millions of people you don't even know, I think you are the one who could use a formal education.

I don't even know where the fuck you're coming at. Just because we are 'blowing through it' doesn't really mean dogshit when the real stuff starts to fly thanks to inflated egos like yours. Seriously, take a step back and evaluate how absolutely unhinged you are coming off.

The reason why these hardline countries tend to scramble toward nukes is because we tend to (the US and Europe, mind you) fuck with them all the time. Do you think the US is some unhinged beast that never goes to a negotiating table? Give me a break. We've dealt with the same shit for decades, mostly from our own meddling. We made giant monetary concessions to them and they continue to act belligerent. I'm not taking sides on the conflict in the ME, but I wish we could have open trade with countries and otherwise fuck off. I'm no nationalist, but people expect us to be the bastion of the world and yet shoulder everything, so you can forgive me if I say that our nefarious activities and dealings with - cough - Europe have done us no good with the hostile ones we are dealing with. The USSR was (somewhat) dissolved through mutual diplomacy, how do you square that with a hostile group that refuses to relinquish power?

 

[Anewt]

The head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) says recent findings on Iran’s nuclear activities do not justify military intervention.
“Military action, from wherever it comes, is a political decision that has nothing to do with what we’re saying,” Rafael Grossi told CNN in a live TV interview today.
“Evidence gathered on Iran’s nuclear program can hardly be a basis for any military action.”

 

[Confucamus]

Is that a chance Israel wants to take though? Would we?

 

[Ron Mexico]

Surely over my recorded lifetime we can freshen up this bullshit narrative. My mom has been worried about this since the early eighties btw.

Album came out in 88-89

 

[kflo]

Fake news! @kflo assured me they were

lol.

They’re just enriching uranium to weapons grade for kicks……

 

[kflo]

Posted in other thread but will leave here for this retarded thread:
https://www.news10.com/news/international/ap-what-to-know-about-inspections-of-irans-nuclear-program-by-the-iaea-ahead-of-a-key-board-vote/#:~:text=Under the 2015 deal, Iran,bargaining chip with the West.
In the years since Trump’s 2018 decision, Iran has limited IAEA inspections and stopped the agency from accessing camera footage. It’s also removed cameras. At one point, Iran accused an IAEA inspector of testing positive for explosive nitrates, something the agency disputed.

Analysis of IAEA Iran Verification and Monitoring Report — May 2025 | Institute for Science and International Security​

isis-online.org

• Iran stopped implementing the Additional Protocol (AP) to its comprehensive safeguards agreement (CSA) and the JCPOA’s additional monitoring arrangements on February 23, 2021. Iran’s actions and its refusal to cooperate with the IAEA across a wide range of monitoring issues causes the IAEA to consistently express doubt about understanding key aspects of Iran’s nuclear activities. Without the AP in place, the IAEA has neither been able to conduct complementary access to any sites and other locations in Iran nor received updated declarations from Iran.
• The IAEA reports that it has “lost continuity of knowledge in relation to the production and current inventory of centrifuges, rotors and bellows, heavy water and UOC [uranium ore concentrate], which it will not be possible to restore.”
• The IAEA concludes that “Iran’s decision to remove all of the Agency’s equipment previously installed in Iran for JCPOA-related surveillance and monitoring activities has also had detrimental implications for the Agency’s ability to provide assurance of the peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear programme.”
• Although the IAEA can ascertain the number of centrifuges deployed at Fordow and Natanz, it cannot know how many more Iran has made and stored or deployed at an undeclared site. A risk is that Iran will accumulate a secret stock of advanced centrifuges, deployable in the future at a clandestine enrichment plant, which would only need to house a relatively few advanced centrifuge cascades to enrich Iran’s current stock of 60 percent HEU to WGU. At the least, this situation complicates any future verification effort and contributes to uncertainty about the status of Iran’s nuclear activities and facilities.
• Combined with Iran’s refusal to resolve outstanding safeguards violations and the program’s unresolved nuclear weapons dimensions, the IAEA has a significantly reduced ability to monitor Iran’s complex and growing nuclear program. The IAEA’s ability to detect diversion of nuclear materials, equipment, and other capabilities to undeclared facilities remains greatly diminished.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Posted in other thread but will leave here for this retarded thread:
https://www.news10.com/news/international/ap-what-to-know-about-inspections-of-irans-nuclear-program-by-the-iaea-ahead-of-a-key-board-vote/#:~:text=Under the 2015 deal, Iran,bargaining chip with the West.
In the years since Trump’s 2018 decision, Iran has limited IAEA inspections and stopped the agency from accessing camera footage. It’s also removed cameras. At one point, Iran accused an IAEA inspector of testing positive for explosive nitrates, something the agency disputed.

Analysis of IAEA Iran Verification and Monitoring Report — May 2025 | Institute for Science and International Security​

isis-online.org

• Iran stopped implementing the Additional Protocol (AP) to its comprehensive safeguards agreement (CSA) and the JCPOA’s additional monitoring arrangements on February 23, 2021. Iran’s actions and its refusal to cooperate with the IAEA across a wide range of monitoring issues causes the IAEA to consistently express doubt about understanding key aspects of Iran’s nuclear activities. Without the AP in place, the IAEA has neither been able to conduct complementary access to any sites and other locations in Iran nor received updated declarations from Iran.
• The IAEA reports that it has “lost continuity of knowledge in relation to the production and current inventory of centrifuges, rotors and bellows, heavy water and UOC [uranium ore concentrate], which it will not be possible to restore.”
• The IAEA concludes that “Iran’s decision to remove all of the Agency’s equipment previously installed in Iran for JCPOA-related surveillance and monitoring activities has also had detrimental implications for the Agency’s ability to provide assurance of the peaceful nature of Iran’s nuclear programme.”
• Although the IAEA can ascertain the number of centrifuges deployed at Fordow and Natanz, it cannot know how many more Iran has made and stored or deployed at an undeclared site. A risk is that Iran will accumulate a secret stock of advanced centrifuges, deployable in the future at a clandestine enrichment plant, which would only need to house a relatively few advanced centrifuge cascades to enrich Iran’s current stock of 60 percent HEU to WGU. At the least, this situation complicates any future verification effort and contributes to uncertainty about the status of Iran’s nuclear activities and facilities.
• Combined with Iran’s refusal to resolve outstanding safeguards violations and the program’s unresolved nuclear weapons dimensions, the IAEA has a significantly reduced ability to monitor Iran’s complex and growing nuclear program. The IAEA’s ability to detect diversion of nuclear materials, equipment, and other capabilities to undeclared facilities remains greatly diminished.

Now do Israel.

How many inspections by the IAEA have there been of the israel nuclear program?
If the number is zero, why?
How much fissile material does israel posses? why does it have it?

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- Bibi is DR Evil and Trump is Number 2(but with Austin Powers fashion sense)

 

[LeonardoBjj]

- Why Iran wond't have nukes? Is anybody stupid enought to Trust US Goverment and Israel?

Even US vets come home, to receive nothing in trade of their sacrifice.

 

[avenue94]

Is that a chance Israel wants to take though? Would we?

It's a chance the US took with the USSR, China, Pakistan, and South Africa, to name a few.

 

[DougieJones]

"Don't drop that shit!"

 

[MrShady]

Is that a chance Israel wants to take though? Would we?

Just 2 more weeks!™

 

[PEB]

Yeah Trump & his staff say opposite things about all the major issues all the time. Par for course. He is a legit crazy person who has no idea what hes doing. He even said the most bizarre childlike thing. That "he won't know what hes doing to the last second."

Also I love how his administration is spreading that Iran has been behind the assassination attempts against Trump. All while chanting death to America. Yet they want to have the Ayatollah over to the Whitehouse. If pathological lying was an administration....

Tulsi gets pushed aside as Trump promised everyone they will never have to vote again lol.



End of days in a comment that the right blows off.

 

[SandisLL]

"No proof" doesn't mean they aren't trying.

You don't enrich U-235 to 60%+ for any reason other than nuclear weapons.

Actually it isn't 100% true.

HEU even 93.5% U²³⁵ is used in some research reactors and some medical isotopes producers does have old tech, therefore uses HEU targets to produce technecium isotopes ....if they have modern tech, then LEU targets might be used for this.

60% btw is used in some naval reactors....however Iran doesn't have naval reactors.