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Do you get a flu shot?

shunyata said:
I'm not one of those anti vaccine Nazis, but you should do your research on any vaccine.

When my 4 year old was 2 we brought her to her pediatrician for the two year check up and the NP asks us if we are going to be giving her the Hep B vaccine.

I say, she is at no risk of contracting Hep B. I state when she's older if she begins contact sports or another activity which would expose her to blood we'll get the Hep B vaccine at that time.

The NP just looks at us and says, but... it's on the schedule to do it at the two year check up.

I reiterate, she's not a medical proffessional, she is not in contact sports, she is never exposed to other people's blood. There's no rational reason to give a normal two year old a Hep B vaccine.

But it's on the vaccination schedule for the two year checkup..........


/facepalm
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Small children do contract Hepatitis B (around 4% of transmissions occur in young children), and often with Hep B transmission people can't identify any particular reason for it. It doesn't all stem from obvious blood-blood contact such as needle sticks or contact sports.

It's a highly infectious virus that has been proven to move between family members in households and can have severe consequences if it's allowed to become chronic. Moreover, it has a higher likelihood of becoming chronic if it's acquired at a young age.

Add into that that the Hep B vaccine is most effective at young age, and becomes less effective as you get older, is extremely safe with few side effects, and has led to a 95% drop in Hep B cases in under 15s since its introduction as a vaccine for young children and my question is this:

Why not get the vaccine and protect your child? What's the downside for you?
 
frenzy said:
No one should be having the flu shot if they're under 60 and do not have an auto immune disorder, pregnant or suceptiable to illness. It's unnecessary.
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Or if they work or live with people who are vulnerable.

If you're a doctor who spends his days in contact with ill, immunosuppressed people then goes at home at night to your pregnant wife and elderly mother who you look after, then you getting flu could get pretty nasty.

The onus is on you to lower your risk of getting flu not only to protect yourself but to protect others around you.
 
Haven't had the flu since I stopped getting the shots.
 
I have to have it every year for the rest of my life due to my asthma
 
I have never had a flu shot and have also never had the flu.
 
hoonosewot88 said:
Small children do contract Hepatitis B (around 4% of transmissions occur in young children), and often with Hep B transmission people can't identify any particular reason for it. It doesn't all stem from obvious blood-blood contact such as needle sticks or contact sports.

It's a highly infectious virus that has been proven to move between family members in households and can have severe consequences if it's allowed to become chronic. Moreover, it has a higher likelihood of becoming chronic if it's acquired at a young age.

Add into that that the Hep B vaccine is most effective at young age, and becomes less effective as you get older, is extremely safe with few side effects, and has led to a 95% drop in Hep B cases in under 15s since its introduction as a vaccine for young children and my question is this:

Why not get the vaccine and protect your child? What's the downside for you?
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A) noone in our immediate family or one generation back has ever contracted it despite not being vaccinated until adulthood and some family members never being vaccinated and we live in an area where it is not terribly prevalent.

B) children are presently an extremely low risk population for hep B in the US especially when noone in the family has it.

From the WHO:

"In developing countries, common modes of transmission are:
perinatal (from mother to baby at birth)
early childhood infections (inapparent infection through close interpersonal contact with infected household contacts)
unsafe injection practices
unsafe blood transfusions
unprotected sexual contact."

"In many developed countries (e.g. those in western Europe and North America), patterns of transmission are different from those in developing countries. The majority of infections in developed countries are transmitted during young adulthood by sexual activity and injecting drug use. Hepatitis B is a major infectious occupational hazard of health workers. "

Again, for a two year old child living in a low risk area (the US) that does not contact blood and isn't having sex and lives in a home with no Hep B positive individuals the risk is nearly nonexistant.


C) there is mixed evidence that there may be a link with inflammatory demyelination associated with certain brands of the hep b vaccine. A causal link has not been fully established but it's an area that warrants further study.

D) we personally preferred to space vaccinations out for our children and opted out of some rather unnessesary vaccines rather than giving them multiple bundled vaccines in short periods of time early in life.

Your why not logic was also used to justify such absurd practices as routine tonsilectomies for asymptomatic pediatric patients in the not so distant past.
 
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hoonosewot88 said:
Or if they work or live with people who are vulnerable.

If you're a doctor who spends his days in contact with ill, immunosuppressed people then goes at home at night to your pregnant wife and elderly mother who you look after, then you getting flu could get pretty nasty.

The onus is on you to lower your risk of getting flu not only to protect yourself but to protect others around you.
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The science is clear to me. Getting a flu shot won't reduce my risk of getting the prevalent circulating strain of the flu.
 
I did because they give them out for free at work. My wife and kids are all sick right now. I'm fine.
 
After reading about all the chemicals that are in it... Nope. It is more likely to cause death than prevent it. They force you to take it if you work in healthcare from what I understand. That is bullshit.

I haven't had a single vaccine or shot since I was six years old and I'm doing fine.
 
Eyepokesftw said:
After reading about all the chemicals that are in it... Nope. It is more likely to cause death than prevent it. They force you to take it if you work in healthcare from what I understand. That is bullshit.

I haven't had a single vaccine or shot since I was six years old and I'm doing fine.
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That'll work out nicely when you get stuck with a rusty hook.
 
No. Since I started eating clean I haven't had so much as a sniffle.
 
Eyepokesftw said:
After reading about all the chemicals that are in it... Nope. It is more likely to cause death than prevent it. They force you to take it if you work in healthcare from what I understand. That is bullshit.

I haven't had a single vaccine or shot since I was six years old and I'm doing fine.
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Lol, you're a smart guy.
 
Never have, never will.... Shit, I don't even take aspirin. Definitely won't get a shot.
 
I got one about 9 months ago. Nurse checked I didn't have it the year before. Not sure if that still works now but everyone has been sick around me and I've been fine. *knock on wood*
 
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