Opinion Do people really like Adolf Hitler?

Do you like Adolf Hitler

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Blackened said:
This is largely true. The Nazi's did some fucked up things, but made great economic progress for their country, were environmentalists (first to pass a law protecting the environment), cared for (their own) people, made great military and scientific progress. We only see one side of it. Hey, even Netanyahu says Hitler wanted to expel the Jews to the M.E. until a Muslim convinced him to exterminate them, but try telling that to your history teacher... he wouldn't even be allowed to tell you that, even though it's true.

But yeah, I'd rather live under a Nazi regime than a Merkel regime. I say this not to downplay the atrocities of the Nazi's, but to highlight the atrocities of Merkel. Again, a Nazi regime would be more in my self interests than a Merkel regime. People like Merkel will be the end of Western Civilization, and they see this as a good thing. o_O

But yeah, the people see how fucking backwards the world has become. Getting conquered is seen as the only "good, reasonable thing" to do.
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Who was the Muslim that suggested that?
 
Blackened said:
What I'm saying is both sides are extremists. The lefts willingness to embrace Communism and the rights willingness to embrace Nazism are two dangers.
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There are extremists on both sides, but Communism is dead, and it seems like extremists are increasingly lining up together against the center.

Blackened said:
Are there no sensible people that want some (albeit limited) social programs, a rational stance on immigration, a open position of freedoms, and a rational stance on foreign policy and a willingness to go to war? Yes, they are out there perhaps even the majority... but they largely aren't in academia and rarely make their way into the media.
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That's pretty much mainstream liberalism.

Blackened said:
I'm much more of a moderate than I let on, I'm just reacting and offering a push back.

Where we were in the 1980's and 1990's is the correct place to be. History will prove this, I'm confident.
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Sure, though we've made some significant advances since then in America--especially on healthcare.

And pushing back against extremists by becoming one doesn't correct anything--it just leads to a battle of extremists. It's funny that as the evidence in favor of American culture piles up, we're seeing increasing resistance to it.
 
Blackened said:
The term Western Civilization was coined when we thought the world was flat.
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There are still people who think the world is flat, but educated people did not think it was flat when the term Western Civilization was coined.
 
Jack V Savage said:
1. There are extremists on both sides, but Communism is dead, and it seems like extremists are increasingly lining up together against the center.



2. That's pretty much mainstream liberalism.



3. Sure, though we've made some significant advances since then in America--especially on healthcare.

And pushing back against extremists by becoming one doesn't correct anything--it just leads to a battle of extremists. It's funny that as the evidence in favor of American culture piles up, we're seeing increasing resistance to it.
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1. I don't think so. I think it's just under the banner "globalism" now.
2. The mainstream liberals were the ones advocating bringing in the Islamic radicals. The guy driving the truck through the Christmas market is an example of Merkelian policies.
3. I agree. But I don't know what else to do? They are going to call me a Nazi either way because I think it's a bad idea to bring in people who want to stab college kids, rape women, and drive trucks through people.
 
Jack V Savage said:
There are still people who think the world is flat, but educated people did not think it was flat when the term Western Civilization was coined.
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Educated people knew the world was globular in Ancient Egypt. Somewhere along the lines we forgot and relearned.
 
He really did love his country. Germany was a hell hole to live in after WW1. Hitler tried to make it great again. Blamed all of it's problems on the jews. Then he got crazy and went overboard with it.
 
freaky said:
Hitler tried to make it great again.
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The jewish/christian god has done things that are 1000x times worse and people still worship that monster, so why not Hitler ?
I wouldn't, but if the 1 makes sense to some people, then so does the other.
 
Blackened said:
1. I don't think so. I think it's just under the banner "globalism" now.
2. The mainstream liberals were the ones advocating bringing in the Islamic radicals. The guy driving the truck through the Christmas market is an example of Merkelian policies.
3. I agree. But I don't know what else to do? They are going to call me a Nazi either way because I think it's a bad idea to bring in people who want to stab college kids, rape women, and drive trucks through people.
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1. Not even close to true. What's called "globalism" is very much a capitalist thing. The international right (Putin, Le Pen, Trump, etc.) is a competing globalist, anti-West movement but it isn't communist in any sense.

2. Not really. Your objection is that you don't think they do enough to vet immigrants or refugees and the possibility that a significant portion of radicals could come in exists. I don't happen to agree with you on that, but that's the debate. How do we weigh the risks against the benefits? Not "these guys *want* people to come in and commit crimes and those guys don't."

3. I think when you talk about liking Hitler and compare him favorably to moderate leaders you have relatively mild policy disagreements with, people are more likely to call you a Nazi. If you say you just want a return to 1980s and 1990s American policies (whatever you're referring to exactly--it's better to be specific), no one will think you're a Nazi.

DynamicLoosener said:
So uncoin it. I am continent neutral.
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No one says you have to like the American or Western model. Doesn't do any good to pretend to be confused about common terms, though.
 
Jack V Savage said:
1. Not even close to true. What's called "globalism" is very much a capitalist thing. The international right (Putin, Le Pen, Trump, etc.) is a competing globalist, anti-West movement but it isn't communist in any sense.

2. Not really. Your objection is that you don't think they do enough to vet immigrants or refugees and the possibility that a significant portion of radicals could come in exists. I don't happen to agree with you on that, but that's the debate. How do we weigh the risks against the benefits? Not "these guys *want* people to come in and commit crimes and those guys don't."

3. I think when you talk about liking Hitler and compare him favorably to moderate leaders you have relatively mild policy disagreements with, people are more likely to call you a Nazi. If you say you just want a return to 1980s and 1990s American policies (whatever you're referring to exactly--it's better to be specific), no one will think you're a Nazi.



No one says you have to like the American or Western model. Doesn't do any good to pretend to be confused about it, though.
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1. Fair enough. It's also a communist thing though, google it. Communism is international. I just think we should stop intervening in foreign affairs altogether.

2. I don't think they can be vetted. I think they have the right to self determination and they largely want to live in an Islamic theocracy. Many are so willing to do it, they blow themselves up so they can take some of us with them as called for in their holy books. As for immigration, I think it's best to stop it altogether from these areas.

3. Not really, I don't like Hitler. I would prefer him to Merkel though, because mathematically you'll end up with an Islamic majority by the end of the century. I'd rather live in Nazi Germany than Saudi Arabia. I'd hardly call the Islamification of Germany a minor policy difference. I have been called a Nazi for saying Islam is incompatible with the constitution. This isn't even questionable, it is fact. The term is thrown around too loosely. I think it's an attempt to stifle a legitimate argument.
 
Limbo Pete said:
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Because with Merkel your great grandkids will end up with an Islamic theocracy. Because I'd prefer Nazi Germany to an Islamic theocracy, I get the Sloth.gif???

Come on bro, a little respect.
 
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