Media DJ on Dustin's career: "A long, long, long career of ups and downs — him knocking people out, him submitting people, him getting submitted."

[TheMMAnalyst]

Its ignoring that Dustin effectively had two careers - one as a feather weight, then another as lightweight.

He's fought 20+ times consecutively for a decade straight at lightweight, it makes more sense to examine them separately.

In that context it seems nuts to say his career was "up and down" considering he went 14-6. He beat multiple world champions and only lost to the absolute best setting aside his loss to MJ which was a case of punchers chance.

Both Khabib and Islam were undefeated as champions so it makes no sense to call those 'down,' they beat everyone. He's got a win over Justin and two over Max.

I can see someone describing Justin Gaethje as an "up and down" fighter, because his record reflects it. Dustin has consistently been a top 5 quality fighter and generally only lost to the best of the best.

I enjoyed your post, but to call the MJ loss a "punchers chance" is a false narrative.

DP attempted to throw a step-in lead uppercut against a guy with super-fast hands 90 seconds into the fight - that's not "getting clipped in a wild brawl" that's "taking a suicidal punching entry and getting punished for it."

MJ beat Tony Ferguson and Edson Barboza by decision, he wasn't pulling Melvin Guillard's in all his wins and just putting guys out with power shots in reckless brawls. If anything MJ is kind of underrated, his bad losses due to being mentally suspect and having bad grappling defense when he panics have left some people thinking he wasn't capable of hanging with the best when he did it many times (classic brawl with Diaz, beat Ferg/DP/Barboza, almost KO'd Gaethje twice, was a minute away from beating Emmett 30-27 before he got slept).

 

[StewDogg11]

Pretty spot on. His Zuffa career record was 23-10, 1 NC with a lot of wins against not very notable guys who a lot of Sherdoggers probably don’t even know. Micklewright, Young, Garza, Corassini, etc.

 

[StewDogg11]

I enjoyed your post, but to call the MJ loss a "punchers chance" is a false narrative.

DP attempted to throw a step-in lead uppercut against a guy with super-fast hands 90 seconds into the fight - that's not "getting clipped in a wild brawl" that's "taking a suicidal punching entry and getting punished for it."

MJ beat Tony Ferguson and Edson Barboza by decision, he wasn't pulling Melvin Guillard's in all his wins and just putting guys out with power shots in reckless brawls. If anything MJ is kind of underrated, his bad losses due to being mentally suspect and having bad grappling defense when he panics have left some people thinking he wasn't capable of hanging with the best when he did it many times (classic brawl with Diaz, beat Ferg/DP/Barboza, almost KO'd Gaethje twice, was a minute away from beating Emmett 30-27 before he got slept).

The Diaz fight was a one sided ass whipping.

 

[TheMMAnalyst]

The Diaz fight was a one sided ass whipping.

MJ outlanded Diaz in the first round and won the round on every single judges scorecard. He then got goaded into a pocket-boxing brawl by Diaz and completely stopped kicking by the end of the fight. Losing a 29-28 decision where you clearly won the first round and only got out-landed 1.5 to 1 = one-sided ass whooping?

 

[r-harper-1]

Dustin Poirier and Robbie Lawler were cut from the same cloth ….big compliment imo

 

[Kaiserjuan]

Yeah, it's not factually incorrect, just interesting he's the one to come out like that, when everyone has been pretty celebratory of Dustin over the last little bit.

He really emphasised that Dustin was never an undisputed champion, when a lot of people have been arguing he should still be viewed as a champ due to him holding the interim belt.

Little twerp of a Ting, yeh! Ya little muffin!

 

[Area809]

Sometimes you don’t have to call it like you see it. The prudent thing would be a nice send off or say nothing at all.

 

[rjmbrd]

I enjoyed your post, but to call the MJ loss a "punchers chance" is a false narrative.

DP attempted to throw a step-in lead uppercut against a guy with super-fast hands 90 seconds into the fight - that's not "getting clipped in a wild brawl" that's "taking a suicidal punching entry and getting punished for it."

You are completely right and I should not have used the opportunity to cast aspersions on MJ.

I should have said something along the lines of Dustin fights MJ 10 times in a simulation, he gets KO'd like that <30% of the time. That was a critical mistake.

MJ beat Tony Ferguson and Edson Barboza by decision, he wasn't pulling Melvin Guillard's in all his wins and just putting guys out with power shots in reckless brawls.

Agree. He famously fought Barboza going forward, and we were all surprised to see it shake out that way. At his best (and when his confidence matched his athletic ability) he was one of the best lightweights in the world, despite subpar grappling ability.

If anything MJ is kind of underrated, his bad losses due to being mentally suspect and having bad grappling defense when he panics have left some people thinking he wasn't capable of hanging with the best when he did it many times (classic brawl with Diaz, beat Ferg/DP/Barboza, almost KO'd Gaethje twice, was a minute away from beating Emmett 30-27 before he got slept).

Agreed.

 

[rjmbrd]

Actually no, this was "that era" of Michael Johnson.

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Johnson was ranked BECAUSE he KO'd Poirier.

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Jackass you literally clipped it cutting off his wins, you can even see the green right where you cut it off lmao. Yeah that split decision against Dariush and a loss to the literally all time career undefeated Khabib.

You are a dork

 

[markg171]

Jackass you literally clipped it cutting off his wins, you can even see the green right where you cut it off lmao. Yeah that split decision against Dariush and a loss to the literally all time career undefeated Khabib.

You are a dork

I like you how you completely ignore that the MMA headline at the time was quite literally that Johnson moved up the rankings for KOing Dustin.

Meanwhile you were trying to pretend he was highly ranked BEFORE this when he was on a 2 fight losing streak.

Never change pal.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Its ignoring that Dustin effectively had two careers - one as a feather weight, then another as lightweight.

He's fought 20+ times consecutively for a decade straight at lightweight, it makes more sense to examine them separately.

In that context it seems nuts to say his career was "up and down" considering he went 14-6. He beat multiple world champions and only lost to the absolute best setting aside his loss to MJ which was a case of punchers chance.

Both Khabib and Islam were undefeated as champions so it makes no sense to call those 'down,' they beat everyone. He's got a win over Justin and two over Max.

I can see someone describing Justin Gaethje as an "up and down" fighter, because his record reflects it. Dustin has consistently been a top 5 quality fighter and generally only lost to the best of the best.

The boards hate just about everyone.

 

[Megatronlee]

Yeah, it's not factually incorrect, just interesting he's the one to come out like that, when everyone has been pretty celebratory of Dustin over the last little bit.

He really emphasised that Dustin was never an undisputed champion, when a lot of people have been arguing he should still be viewed as a champ due to him holding the interim belt.

Yeah interim is the same as undisputed to me. Champ is champ

It wasn’t like he was some bum who got lucky

 

[markg171]

Yeah interim is the same as undisputed to me. Champ is champ

It wasn’t like he was some bum who got lucky

Dustin quite literally fought FW Max for it in their first ever LW fight, who he'd already previously beaten, and not Tony who was the #1 LW contender who was actually up for the title shot or any other actual LW contender.

And then immediately afterwards got dominated in the title unification bout with the actual champion Khabib.

Dustin's interim title might be the most worthless of them all.

 

[Megatronlee]

Dustin quite literally fought FW Max for it in their first ever LW fight, who he'd already previously beaten, and not Tony who was the #1 LW contender who was actually up for the title shot or any other actual LW contender.

And then immediately afterwards got dominated in the title unification bout with the actual champion Khabib.

Dustin's interim title might be the most worthless of them all.

Goat max
Khabib beat everyone

 

[Kwic]

Why are so many people sucking Dustin off that hard all of a sudden, lol.

He's a very good fighter, but come on. Never a champion, never a big draw.

Anderson freaking Silva didn't receive that much attention when he retired.

Did he get ANY send-off or acknowledgement at all from thr UFC? I don't even recall it.