Divisions where UFC does not have the absolute edge

[don't ask]

LMAO, don't post about MMA, you're going to make everyone dumber.

I like how this man handles dumb shit.

 

[don't ask]

I mean you know what they say about opinions

Yes and your asshole probably makes people dumber, too.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

How do you think he would do against Figgy or Moreno?

Not sure to be honest. I think Moreno's endless pressure and gas tank could cause problems for him nowadays, I think with Figgy he might do well if he tried to wrestle but that gilly is dangerous from Figgy.

I think he beats them both in his prime though, although I would say that current Moreno would imo be the best opponent he's face other than Cejudo in the 2nd fight.

 

[stinkynecklace]

Not sure to be honest. I think Moreno's endless pressure and gas tank could cause problems for him nowadays, I think with Figgy he might do well if he tried to wrestle but that gilly is dangerous from Figgy.

I think he beats them both in his prime though, although I would say that current Moreno would imo be the best opponent he's face other than Cejudo in the 2nd fight.

What are your thoughts on Guchi?
Also, what do you think of Moraes?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

What are your thoughts on Guchi?
Also, what do you think of Moraes?

Gucci at flyweight is great. I think he's slowing down a little bit as he had a bad knee injury, but he's still got good movement, great leg kicks and really good speed. He's a bit too small for bantamweight.

Moraes is good but he wouldn't make flyweight in the UFC, so I tend not to consider him one really. He's a BW who's figured out ONE's weight cutting system.

 

[stinkynecklace]

Jiri vs Nemkov 2 is a fight I would very much like to see. Also MM vs Moreno would be awesome imo.

Did you watch the first Jiri Nemkov fight? Who would you favour in the rematch?

 

[ripsta619]

Did you watch the first Jiri Nemkov fight? Who would you favour in the rematch?

I have was good aside from needed Stoppage. Rematch is hard to call. Nemkov I feel has upgraded skills more but Jiri is the better athlete.

I would chòse Jiri

 

[Goutfather]

Only LHW is arguable
Rest all are top tier in the UFC
If Jamahal Hill can string a few defenses (which I see as unlikely) maybe UFC can boast of their LHW division

sadly, it’s not that unlikely

 

[Sasha]

The thing about FLW is the UFC isn't willing to spend because they don't feel they get their money back on the investment. I don't really understand but the stats don't lie that these fighters for whatever reason don't attract eyeballs like 2 cans of lard fighting at HW.

They should make a tiny octagon and also zoom in a little. The illusion would be perfect, 2 HW moving twice as fast as Gane

 

[DougieJones]

Ok, but here's the difference between UFC and others : USADA.

Until they prove they can compete under USADA, it's mainly speculation.

You actually believe in an organization that will move the PED goalposts for fighters?

 

[ejazahmednit]

sadly, it’s not that unlikely

Why sadly though
If he does win a few, i ll be more than happy
Only thing lacking in the LHW division is a champ with more than one defence

 

[Goutfather]

Why sadly though
If he does win a few, i ll be more than happy
Only thing lacking in the LHW division is a champ with more than one defence

“sadly” because he’s not a strong champ, but the state of the division is such that he has a good chance against anyone in queue to challenge him. he seems like a cool guy though. if he racks up a long string of defenses, ill be happy for him as a person. hope he stops ank from getting the belt.

 

[TITS]

I agree, but I'd probably argue Lando should be part of the trimming at this point

4 wins in 12 fights, I think its safe to say he's LFA level at best.

 

[AfroBanana]

While I love Moose, I don't think he's championship material in the UFC at his age. Yoel definitely isn't at 185. Eblen is very skilled but I think Whittaker and Adesanya both beat him. I think the UFC's Lightweight division is much, much stronger than any other organization, especially Bellator, at the top and depth wise. Outside 205 and 135, the UFC has the stronger weight classes at the top and have a ton of depth comparatively.

All of that said, there's great fighters in every company, and I'm tired of the UFC favoring regional guys who's are unproven and cheap, hoping that one breaks out while deciding against retaining or seeking out guys who have good records or have the promise of being elite for more money. At this point, is normal.

Bellator has guys at the very top that could be champions in the UFC. But realistically they don’t have the depth.

Remove the champs from MW and LHW and the divisions significantly deteriorate and look old / shallow. Bellator has some good fighters 135lb-155lb. Definitely overall got solid rosters.

 

[Substance Abuse]

Bellator has guys at the very top that could be champions in the UFC. But realistically they don’t have the depth.

Remove the champs from MW and LHW and the divisions significantly deteriorate and look old / shallow. Bellator has some good fighters 135lb-155lb. Definitely overall got solid rosters.

While I agree to an extent for certain divisions, I think the guys why eventually become Bellator champions would more than likely end up losing before they locked up enough wins to secure a title shot due to the depth in the UFC if they started there.

 

[stinkynecklace]

Bellator has guys at the very top that could be champions in the UFC. But realistically they don’t have the depth.

Remove the champs from MW and LHW and the divisions significantly deteriorate and look old / shallow. Bellator has some good fighters 135lb-155lb. Definitely overall got solid rosters.

I agree with you on the depth of divisions, UFC definitely has the advantage when it comes to depth. That said, they put on so many cards that, talent wise on a card for card basis, the UFC doesn’t have as commanding lead as they used to. The majority of each card is regional level talent with the elites of the division spread thin. Looking at all of the upcoming cards for both UFC and Bellator, there are usually only 1-2 fights per card with immediate relevance to the division.

This is an area where I give ONE the advantage. By hosting multiple combat sports we get stacked cards by having top talent from each sport on the card. I don’t get why kickboxing, Muay Thai and submission grappling haven’t taken off with American fans. It’s a shame because they have top talent in each of those disciplines, but we don’t get the opportunity to see them shine in their field of dominance. People went crazy for Wonder Boy vs Holland, why not offer fights with a rule set that gives us more of that?

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

While I agree to an extent for certain divisions, I think the guys why eventually become Bellator champions would more than likely end up losing before they locked up enough wins to secure a title shot due to the depth in the UFC if they started there.

Big names that come into the UFC generally don't have to start from the bottom. They normally get someone in the top 7(Melendez, Alvarez, Chandler, Lombard, Thomson, Henderson, Rampage ect.).