Divisions where UFC does not have the absolute edge

[RockyLockridge]

I wanna see soldic in the UFC WW division so bad.

 

[Liverkick-king56]

MW - Eblen is a lock for top 5, Moose and Tokov are top 10
LHW - Nemkov, Anderson, Davis are all arguable top 5 talents
FW - Pitbull and McKee have claims for top 5
Fly - Gooch, Pettis, Dj are all people I'd favour over Moreno

One FC has the best Strikers by far it's just most of the other skills are lacking Fabricio Andrade turned John Lineker into a panic wrestler.... The same John Lineker who fought Sandhagen to a razor close fight

 

[LindyBrah]

ONE has Jarred Brooks and Joshua Pacio, and the former was robbed in his fight against Figgy.

Many in Bellators featherweight and lightweight divisions would give the current contenders plenty of problems.

Eblen, Mousasi, Nemkov, and Soldier of God are championship material in UFC 185 and 205.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

They let go of DJ and now they are selling us that Figueredo and Moreno are the best in the world. You don't have the edge if you don't have the best in the world. He only lost a split decision to Cejudo who vacated the belt shortly after. DJ is the champion in ONE and asians have a lot of small people, they are very competitive in that weight classes in boxing and any combat sport

ACA has a better flyweight division than ONE tbf.

 

[Qays Stetkevich]

The thing about FLW is the UFC isn't willing to spend because they don't feel they get their money back on the investment. I don't really understand but the stats don't lie that these fighters for whatever reason don't attract eyeballs like 2 cans of lard fighting at HW.

In general the lighter the weight class the less you get paid in the UFC(with LW being the exception which I think is still basking in the Conor light which has created interest and thus more names in LW than other classes).

Great points. But I think you solve the riddle in your last sentence. The lighter, newer weight classes just need to have their big starts to catalyze the divisions non-hardcore fan hype. Moreno is helping and could become something, And with Aljo, his fighting skill/excitements isn't why he's not more popular, his actions and (bad) charisma that rubs people the wrong way is. That personality wouldn't be wildly popular at any weight.

P.S.
"for whatever reason don't attract eyeballs like 2 cans of lard fighting at HW"

 

[campbecc]

ONE has a lot of good fighters in the lower weight classes.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

Davis and Bader suck. Anderson will get ko’d again likely and Nemkov is at best a Jan Clone.

LMAO, don't post about MMA, you're going to make everyone dumber.

 

[Azure]

UFC is dying..Confirmed

Also, Most of the other orgs get beat by USADA

 

[stinkynecklace]

Ok, UFC has the absolute top talent at HW and LHW.
Maybe at LW as well.

But for the rest, I am not so sure. They do have better MW, WW, FW and BW that Bellator's or ONE's, but not that absolute.

And definitely not at FLW.

There are a lot of fighters which are not in the UFC and they would be top class.
Just see Jiří Procházka.
A lot of sherdoggers were shitting on the guy when he was in Rizin.
And now he is (kind of) the champ, with spectacular finishes.

Bellator has Nemkov, Amasov, Usman Nurmagomedov, McKee, Mousasi, Pitbull, Horiguchi
ONE has Soldic, Christian Lee, Mighty Mouse
ACA has Magomedov
Rizin has Roberto de Souza, Kleber Erbst
KSW screwed it with Narkun (cuz if he lost, maybe lack of concentration)

I think Phil Davis could beat everyone in the top 10 in the UFC. They have no strong wrestlers. Davis has an iron chin and was able to toy with Glover. Glover used his superior grappling to become champion in that division very recently. LHW is one of the UFC’s weakest divisions. Nemkov is the only striker in that division that can say he answers the wrestling question.

 

[PhotographyRaptor]

LMAO, don't post about MMA, you're going to make everyone dumber.

Meh. I’m not worried I mean you know what they say about opinions mr 5580 lol

 

[PhotographyRaptor]

I think Phil Davis could beat everyone in the top 10 in the UFC. They have no strong wrestlers. Davis has an iron chin and was able to toy with Glover. Glover used his superior grappling to become champion in that division very recently. LHW is one of the UFC’s weakest divisions. Nemkov is the only striker in that division that can say he answers the wrestling question.

Lol. Davis couldn’t beat Bader nor AJ. He’s a scrub but hey talk to the other all mma except ufc dumbfucks if you need consoling

 

[ejazahmednit]

Only LHW is arguable
Rest all are top tier in the UFC
If Jamahal Hill can string a few defenses (which I see as unlikely) maybe UFC can boast of their LHW division

 

[stinkynecklace]

Lol. Davis couldn’t beat Bader nor AJ. He’s a scrub but hey talk to the other all mma except ufc dumbfucks if you need consoling

He lost (barely) to Bader, who also happens to be a stronger wrestler than anyone in the UFC LHW division. Rumble was also a strong wrestler and couldn’t stop Davis with his absolute bombs.
But hey, you seem like an intelligent and articulate person, tell me, who are the strong wrestlers in the UFC LHW division? Which of them have shown strong counter wrestling?

 

[Substance Abuse]

ONE has Jarred Brooks and Joshua Pacio, and the former was robbed in his fight against Figgy.

Many in Bellators featherweight and lightweight divisions would give the current contenders plenty of problems.

Eblen, Mousasi, Nemkov, and Soldier of God are championship material in UFC 185 and 205.

While I love Moose, I don't think he's championship material in the UFC at his age. Yoel definitely isn't at 185. Eblen is very skilled but I think Whittaker and Adesanya both beat him. I think the UFC's Lightweight division is much, much stronger than any other organization, especially Bellator, at the top and depth wise. Outside 205 and 135, the UFC has the stronger weight classes at the top and have a ton of depth comparatively.

All of that said, there's great fighters in every company, and I'm tired of the UFC favoring regional guys who's are unproven and cheap, hoping that one breaks out while deciding against retaining or seeking out guys who have good records or have the promise of being elite for more money. At this point, is normal.

 

[LindyBrah]

While I love Moose, I don't think he's championship material in the UFC at his age. Yoel definitely isn't at 185. Eblen is very skilled but I think Whittaker and Adesanya both beat him. I think the UFC's Lightweight division is much, much stronger than any other organization, especially Bellator, at the top and depth wise. Outside 205 and 135, the UFC has the stronger weight classes at the top and have a ton of depth comparatively.

All of that said, there's great fighters in every company, and I'm tired of the UFC favoring regional guys who's are unproven and cheap, hoping that one breaks out while deciding against retaining or seeking out guys who have good records or have the promise of being elite for more money. At this point, is normal.

Given that Jamahal Hill is champion, and O’Malley is the number one contender at bantamweight, this will only make Dana more inclined to fill the roster with LFA jobbers. Diamond in the rough. Also Soldier of God doesn’t leave his prime for another few years when he’s 50. Es normal

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Given that Jamahal Hill is champion, and O’Malley is the number one contender at bantamweight, this will only make Dana more inclined to fill the roster with LFA jobbers. Diamond in the rough. Also Soldier of God doesn’t leave his prime for another few years when he’s 50. Es normal

Just about everyone relevant was a regional guy once.

 

[Nihongi]

DJ got robbed.

DJ got out grappled

 

[HuskySamoan]

NGL i think Malykhin, aliakhabari, or buchecha could defeat the winner of Jones-Gane

Amir Aliakbari really isn't that guy, I thought he lost to Moldavsky and he got knocked out by Cro Cop. Malykhin is great but more of a LHW moonlighting as a HW, I don't think these guys beat Jones or Gane. Buchecha has a lot left to prove, he's fought absolutely nobody yet, when he fights a legit pro we can talk. Malykhin would be a contender though at 205 or 265 in the UFC I think, Buchecha and Aliakbari I don't think so.

This thread is so bad because the OP put absolutely no effort into naming fighters or quantifying things.

 

[mraa1]

LHW? No, at least 3 of Bellator's LHWs could be champ in this current UFC era.

 

[HuskySamoan]

Just about everyone relevant was a regional guy once.

Doesn't really change the fact that the UFC has always done mental gymnastics to downplay global top talent rather than shelling out real money to sign them. And that they will sign far worse fighters from LFA and the likes on a consistent basis but once one or two of them out of the dozens and dozens do well enough to fight for a belt he and fans will go "SEE SEE SEE good fighters do come from these places!" I think the UFC not signing much top talent and people acting as though top talent cannot come from regional promotions are separate things. Most regional scenes top talent they sign is obviously far worse than guys like Patchy Mix or Magomedrasul Gasanov, but they can't pick those guys up for 10k/10k.