Media Did Dubois hit Usyk low??

[Tuvatuva]

In one of my fights, my cup and shorts kept riding up and it was uncomfortable. I would push it down but it would come back up.

 

[listrahtes]

English twat gets mad that superior Ukrainian boxer beats English boxer fair and square, next, the news.

Seems this kinda explains most "critical" forum members in this thread. Good measure in the votes how many incompetent blind groupies are forum members.

It was low but the fight was pretty much over by then. Kovalev was out on his feet from a perfectly legal head shot. He was likely never going to recover. One or two more legal follow-up shots and he would've been finished.

I agree but Wards whole career is one dirty abuse of ruleset after the next being applauded for being "intelligent." boxing. He did this intentionally lots of times as he knew that he would get away with that. Ward is in line for being one of the dirtiest boxers ever. This was not a legit win at all just like the first "win" vs Kovalev or his headbutting mastery vs Kessler....etc

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I agree but Wards whole career is one dirty abuse of ruleset after the next being applauded for being "intelligent." boxing. He did this intentionally lots of times as he knew that he would get away with that. This was not a legit win at all.

Ward definitely wasn't afraid to get dirty in there but so did lots of other HOFers & ATGs. I consider it a legitimate win because he proved that he was the better man in there. Just like Bud showed that he was clearly better than Khan. How those fights ended doesn't erase that. It still managed to elevate Ward to P4P No. 1 in the media's rankings. He subsequently retired months later and was removed but he did so on top.

 

[Vampire life]

In one of my fights, my cup and shorts kept riding up and it was uncomfortable. I would push it down but it would come back up.

Your dick should have prevented that

js

 

[Vampire life]

if only there was already a thread on this right below yours

I know
It SUCKS!!!!!

 

[listrahtes]

Ward definitely wasn't afraid to get dirty in there but so did lots of other HOFers & ATGs. I consider it a legitimate win because he proved that he was the better man in there. Just like Bud showed that he was clearly better than Khan. How those fights ended doesn't erase that. It still managed to elevate Ward to P4P No. 1 in the media's rankings. He subsequently retired months later and was removed but he did so on top.

Please Ward P4p nr1 . That' was a joke back then . Was just the usual us hype. There is a reason he isn't that famous after retirement. He always used fouls when under pressure much more than others. That's not a p4p. Canelo or GGG f.e. could solve that by technical brilliance, Ward by leaning, holding,headbutting and ball busting. His marquee win was a blatant hometown robbery. He was a good boxer but even in his win lvs a shell of his former self Kovalev had to use fouls and the protection from ref with the constant hometown reffing that protected him. It's absurd to call a win legit when he literally ko d him by busting his nuts. "But he dominated before" wow what an argument Especially as he did that as a fight strategy. Ran like a ram into Kessler ... etc Ward could have just used low blows,holding and headbutts and wouldn't have been dq d and been praised for his situational genius by the one sided us commentators.

Wards career is one big story of hometown reffing corruption protecting a dirty snooze fest of a fighter way above any reason. Sure he also had great technical abilities I don't doubt that but him going in like that devalues his whole career. P4p nr1 <45> We will not find common ground with Ward.

 

[Stormtrooper85]

 

[Severen]

Then that ref proceeded to ignore multiple belt line shots from Jared. lol

 

[4daLuLZ]

After seeing multiple low blows and recalling what they said they'd do pre-fight this was no accident. It appears that they absolutely were part of the gameplan. Glad it backfired on them so badly. No rematch.

Ot didn’t backfire at all. If you win, it’s Yeah Mon ! If you get DQed you can cry all the way to your grave how you wUz roBbEd and have a couple of brain damaged blind seals clap and call you king.

It’ll add to your next fight too. You can parley that into a few more paycheques before you quit the game.

 

[4daLuLZ]

when Usyk went down he looked like someone who was punched in the nuts. If you've been hit in the nuts you know how it feels and what it looks like.

Most these guys have never been in the ring proper and think a low blow is one exactly placed up and under the balls.
What they don’t know is that even the lower abdomen is off limits because with gloves on and a trained athlete punching, it can make you feel some kind of way down there.

 

[4daLuLZ]

I don't get the outrage at all. Usky never faked that before. You have team Dubois on mic talking about doing stuff like that and this wasn't the only time. It was was a very obvious strategy to counter Usyks technical superiority with dirty tricks.

Then you have ringside spectators telling they even heard how the punch connected to Usyks cup . Even without the video this is so overwhelming . One of the last cases I would expect foul play

Exactly.
This wasn’t no Ward Vs Kovalev 2 here.
And Usyk is a motherfuckin GUN. Even if it wasn’t so obviously low, he still gets the benefit of doubt from me. Guy’s never even remotely done sht like this.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Please Ward P4p nr1 . That' was a joke back then . Was just the usual us hype. There is a reason he isn't that famous after retirement. He always used fouls when under pressure much more than others. That's not a p4p. Canelo or GGG f.e. could solve that by technical brilliance, Ward by leaning, holding,headbutting and ball busting. His marquee win was a blatant hometown robbery. He was a good boxer but even in his win lvs a shell of his former self Kovalev had to use fouls and the protection from ref with the constant hometown reffing that protected him. It's absurd to call a win legit when he literally ko d him by busting his nuts. "But he dominated before" wow what an argument Especially as he did that as a fight strategy. Ran like a ram into Kessler ... etc Ward could have just used low blows,holding and headbutts and wouldn't have been dq d and been praised for his situational genius by the one sided us commentators.

Wards career is one big story of hometown reffing corruption protecting a dirty snooze fest of a fighter way above any reason. Sure he also had great technical abilities I don't doubt that but him going in like that devalues his whole career. P4p nr1 <45> We will not find common ground with Ward.

 

[BFG]

It was low based on the rules, but not that low. It seemed like Usyk was ready to go at one point and his corner told him to take more time. The whole thing was weird and poorly controlled by the ref. If the blow had been ruled legal, I'm pretty sure Usyk would have beaten the ten count. It may have created a (brief) opening for Dubois but I still think Usyk would have won (and in a pretty similar fashion).

 

[TheMaster]

Why do people try these tricks? Thats not the punch landing thats the trajectory before impact. Impact was higher and on the beltline especially as Usyk was moving as well.

Lmao at that being 'low'. Thats a shot from a heavyweight power puncher to the guts, and it has the effect you would expect.
Square on the abdomen. Legal, and would have finished it.
Still, does Dubois deserve a rematch? Yes. Will he get one? No because he got stopped and quit in world title fight regardless. Sadly he doesn't have the champions heart even though in this fight he should be champion but it is what it is.

 

[TheMaster]

Footage of Usyk pulling the same trick vs Joshua.
Masterful tactical acting you have to give it him, to buy time to recover.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/...r-usyk-low-blow-amateur-career-daniel-dubois/

 

[Tuvatuva]

This is quite an interesting psychological phenomenon. Both sides are so certain of what transpired, with such polarizing perspectives, of something that should be theoretically very clear. Both people who say it was low and the people who claim it was legal are extremely certain of their opinions. Isn't this why rules exist? They need to make the rules even clearer to eliminate this kind of doubt.

Maybe this is why some fighters don't take a lot of time to recover after getting hit with low blows.

 

[randomg1t]

you're asking me this question after going into incredible detail on how a GROIN PROTECTOR does not, in fact, PROTECT THE GROIN.

ah ok, genuinely dense then.

carry on.

 

[Severen]

Why do people try these tricks?

Because they work so often. Usually they use bad angles but showing a photo well before the punch even landed is taking it to comical levels.

 

[Seano]

Please Ward P4p nr1 . That' was a joke back then . Was just the usual us hype. There is a reason he isn't that famous after retirement. He always used fouls when under pressure much more than others. That's not a p4p. Canelo or GGG f.e. could solve that by technical brilliance, Ward by leaning, holding,headbutting and ball busting. His marquee win was a blatant hometown robbery. He was a good boxer but even in his win lvs a shell of his former self Kovalev had to use fouls and the protection from ref with the constant hometown reffing that protected him. It's absurd to call a win legit when he literally ko d him by busting his nuts. "But he dominated before" wow what an argument Especially as he did that as a fight strategy. Ran like a ram into Kessler ... etc Ward could have just used low blows,holding and headbutts and wouldn't have been dq d and been praised for his situational genius by the one sided us commentators.

Wards career is one big story of hometown reffing corruption protecting a dirty snooze fest of a fighter way above any reason. Sure he also had great technical abilities I don't doubt that but him going in like that devalues his whole career. P4p nr1 <45> We will not find common ground with Ward.

P4P is based on resume and like him or not ( i did not) Ward was beating the best guys out there for a time.

 

[Seano]

Please Ward P4p nr1 . That' was a joke back then . Was just the usual us hype. There is a reason he isn't that famous after retirement. He always used fouls when under pressure much more than others. That's not a p4p. Canelo or GGG f.e. could solve that by technical brilliance, Ward by leaning, holding,headbutting and ball busting. His marquee win was a blatant hometown robbery. He was a good boxer but even in his win lvs a shell of his former self Kovalev had to use fouls and the protection from ref with the constant hometown reffing that protected him. It's absurd to call a win legit when he literally ko d him by busting his nuts. "But he dominated before" wow what an argument Especially as he did that as a fight strategy. Ran like a ram into Kessler ... etc Ward could have just used low blows,holding and headbutts and wouldn't have been dq d and been praised for his situational genius by the one sided us commentators.

Wards career is one big story of hometown reffing corruption protecting a dirty snooze fest of a fighter way above any reason. Sure he also had great technical abilities I don't doubt that but him going in like that devalues his whole career. P4p nr1 <45> We will not find common ground with Ward.

P4P is based on resume and like him or not ( i did not) Ward was beating the best guys out there for a time.