Definitive case for JBJ not being GOAT

[orca]

No thats not according to me. Its actually the exact opposite.

You have to go with a gross mischaracterization of what I said in order to build a strawman

I guess you just refuse to answer the question as to whether Jones looked just as good or better than he did earlier in his career.

Si.ple yes or no would do but you refuse

you refuse to answer it because you claim jones hasnt won a fight since he was 32
because you know your wrong?
please post it i wanna see the evidence i wanna see that loss on his resume?

 

[Bwagster]

Jon Jones is like Yngwie Malmsteen. I respect his skills but thats it. I dont care about his art that much.

Careful or he’ll unleash the f@ckin fury!

 

[Bouboumaster]

Jones would be the GOAT in a World where PEDs are allowed.

They ain't, and he took them despite knowing this fact, because he wanted an edge. He basically gave Sportmanship the middle finger, and cheated

That alone disqualify him from the GOAT conversation IMO

Which make GSP the GOAT

 

[BowserJr]

you said jones hasnt won a fight when he was 32?
you havent posted anything
just your opinion
your opinion isnt a fact until you prove it

Again


He has no wins after 30, 31, 32 much less 33 fights. Go back and reread it, if you dare.

He has no legitimate title defenses after 32 yrs. I never said he has t won. You're literally just making stuff up now

You jbj dick riders really just lose it when its made perfectly clear that jones is not as great as you think

Sources have been posted detailing why his 2nd lhw title run is legitimate BTW

 

[chiefwiggum]

There really are no good wins for anybody in mma

 

[Lil Eagle]

Nobody's "pretending" anything.... that has been straight-up addressed before... the event moved, so stop acting like anything is being ignored, dude... Yeah, it got shifted from Nevada to California because NSAC was super strict and wouldn't license Jones over those trace picograms of Turinabol showing up in his pre-fight test. That's a fact, but here's the full picture you're conveniently leaving out (which I have brought up already in past threads) — USADA and CSAC cleared him to fight after experts confirmed it was residual from an old exposure, not a new failure or fresh doping. Science backed that up, i.e, no performance boost from such tiny amounts (we're talking parts per trillion), and it wasn't like he popped for something active. They ruled no violation, so he competed legally. What, you think USADA just made that up? Lol that's why the fight happened, and Jones smoked Gus anyway with pure skill.

If NSAC's decision makes the whole thing "illegitimate" to you, fine, but that's your bias talking, not the official ruling. Facts are facts, he was cleared, fought, won dominantly. If you're going to cherry-pick, at least own it instead of leaving stuff out when the move has already been literally addressed. What'd be your excuse for ignoring the clearance and science then?

source: "trust me bro"?

even if you can find the paid for by the UFC citation, it's obvious thats what's happening (paid for by UFC). Especially with the track record Dana, UFC and Jon have together. They literally had to find a new place because the most legitimized and trusted SAC refused it. The silly thing is you cherry pick things to the benefit of your Jones narrative but you cherry pick info to leave out for others. The non-objectivity and bias is clear as day.

 

[volcom5]

Lol got it. All you got is mischaracterization of what I said.

How about you tell us how many fighters Jones faced that outweighed him by over 100lbs, had a reach advantage on him or over a foot height advantage?

Doesn't even have to be all 3. Just 1. How many?

Bro, you literally compared Hong Man Choi to Rico Verhoeven, Rico Verhoeven is a Champion, a World Grand Prix Champion & defending HW champion, not some regional Champion of Korea like Hong Man Choi.

Why would Jones fight some kickboxer unproven in MMA in his first MMA bout, thats what Fedor Emelianenko did and is the equivalent to Jake Paul of MMA, Hong Man Choo literally got subbed by a 5’8 Welterweight in Minowa and Hong Man Choi got worked by a 5’5 Chinaman Kickboxer in Kickboxing, the sport you claim he’s world champion in.

And this is the elite win you want to pump up Fedors numbers? Lol.
I asked you what did Hong Man Choi achieve or accomplish in MIXED MARTIAL ARTS, you literally gave me measurements, NO accomplishments, no significant win, nothing.

Everyone else can see how ridiculous you are with your dishonest and delusions, Fedor is the best HW, GOAT is a different story.

This is how hypocritical you are.
You talk shit about Pereira like he’s bum and he wouldn’t be a worthy win for Jones in MMA, yet he’s accomplish infinitely more than Hong Man Choi in kickboxing and mma.

When has Fedor consistently fought great competition? Back to back? Like literally all the MMA fighters has been in the past decade, his win streak is a farce.

Fedor is lucky he ducked the UFC, because he would’ve been demolished by Brendan Schaub from pillar to post. EASILY.

 

[Luffy]

source: "trust me bro"?

even if you can find the paid for by the UFC citation, it's obvious thats what's happening (paid for by UFC). Especially with the track record Dana, UFC and Jon have together. They literally had to find a new place because the most legitimized and trusted SAC refused it. The silly thing is you cherry pick things to the benefit of your Jones narrative but you cherry pick info to leave out for others. The non-objectivity and bias is clear as day.

Source is that's literally what happened. I'm talking about 100% what happened. Which source do you want? That's the same as me saying Ankalaev won a decision vs Alex Pereira 48-47... There's no source if you watched the fight and the decision lol that was shown

 

[BowserJr]

Bro, you literally compared Hong Man Choi to Rico Verhoeven, Rico Verhoeven is a Champion, a World Grand Prix Champion & defending HW champion, not some regional Champion of Korea like Hong Man Choi.

Why would Jones fight some kickboxer unproven in MMA in his first MMA bout, thats what Fedor Emelianenko did and is the equivalent to Jake Paul of MMA, Hong Man Choo literally got subbed by a 5’8 Welterweight in Minowa and Hong Man Choi got worked by a 5’5 Chinaman Kickboxer in Kickboxing, the sport you claim he’s world champion in.

And this is the elite win you want to pump up Fedors numbers? Lol.
I asked you what did Hong Man Choi achieve or accomplish in MIXED MARTIAL ARTS, you literally gave me measurements, NO accomplishments, no significant win, nothing.

Everyone else can see how ridiculous you are with your dishonest and delusions, Fedor is the best HW, GOAT is a different story.

This is how hypocritical you are.
You talk shit about Pereira like he’s bum and he wouldn’t be a worthy win for Jones in MMA, yet he’s accomplish infinitely more than Hong Man Choi in kickboxing and mma.

When has Fedor consistently fought great competition? Back to back? Like literally all the MMA fighters has been in the past decade, his win streak is a farce.

Fedor is lucky he ducked the UFC, because he would’ve been demolished by Brendan Schaub from pillar to post. EASILY.

How far back in my post history did you have to go to find something about Goatan?

Just to have a feeble attempt at pigeon holing

What a stalker!




BTW this also just shows how much a bad faith debater you are. I never said he sucks I said its not an interesting matchup cuz Alex is 1 dimensional.

However if Alex were 100lbs heavier had over a foot reach and height advantage over Jones yes it would be a fucking incredible win.

Even if it were Anis Bousid leve but with that type of size advantage I described yes it would be an incredible win.

How about you tell us how many fighters Jones faced that outweighed him by over 100lbs, had a reach advantage on him or over a foot height advantage?

Doesn't even have to be all 3. Just 1. How many?

Why are you refusing to answer this?

Please also tell us how many wins Jones had within 10 years

Has Jones gotten to even 30 wins?

Simple yes or no would do

 

[volcom5]

How far back in my post history did you have to go to find something about Goatan?

Just to have a feeble attempt at pigeon holing

What a stalker!




BTW this also just shows how much a bad faith debater you are. I never said he sucks I said its not an interesting matchup cuz Alex is 1 dimensional.

One dimensional or not, Alex Pereira is more skilled, more proven, more accomplished in MMA than a good handful of Fedors opponents that you love to embellish in his win streak

However if Alex were 100lbs heavier had over a foot reach and height advantage over Jones yes it would be a fucking incredible win.

We’re not about size about here buddy, only you’re. Im talking about accomplishments & merit in an opponent. Alex Pereira is an incredible win without those advantages, because he’s proven his worth in MMA. Choi didnt prove anything, you’re enthralled and using his size like it equates to actual skill level in him when a fighter like Minowa subbed him and he got beat up by a manlet let in Kickboxing.

Even if it were Anis Bousid leve but with that type of size advantage I described yes it would be an incredible win.

Again you’re talking about a size advantages, you’re not talking about skills, accomplishments and merit to be considered a good win worthy of a GOAT resume. And be honest here, you would be shitting on Jones no matter what, if Jones won against someone with size advsngsge but zero skill advantage.

How about you tell us how many fighters Jones faced that outweighed him by over 100lbs, had a reach advantage on him or over a foot height advantage?

Jones fought zero of those opponents, because he actually was fighting elite ranked, skilled fighters. Having size, reach and height advantage means absolutely nothing when the person very unskilled in the sport of MMA, hence why a fighter of Minowa’s caliber subbed Hong Man Choi and 5’5 kickboxer was having his way with Choi prior to a nutshut. There isn’t many fighters who are that size and skilled, Struve, Schilt and Volkov are has more merit and worth as a win in MMA, than Choi.

Doesn't even have to be all 3. Just 1. How many?

Jones fought zero of those opponents, again because there isn’t anyone like that in MMA. It’s a null arguement because Choi is unskilled in MMA, Choi vs Fedor was freakshow level, comparable to what Jake Paul vs insert celebrity/retired MMA fighter in Boxing,

Plus you love to shit Jones calling him Jake Paul of MMA, brother Fedor Emelianenko is essentially the Jake Paul of MMA, he’s fought old opponents or first time opponents in MMA, the likes of Choi, Hunt, Ngata, Singh.

Why are you refusing to answer this?

I answered it, Im willing to bet you won’t answer the question I asked you, what did Hong Man Choi accomplish in MMA, what win, what ranking, what belt, anything to be considered a great win.

Please also tell us how many wins Jones had within 10 years

Gane & Gustafson height advantage, Miocic weight advantage. No reach advantage because quite frankly because Jones genetics

Has Jones gotten to even 30 wins?

No, Jones did not get to 30.

it’s not about the number, it’s about the quality of opponent which you deliberately fail to admit, in fact you diminish countless wins like Shogun, Sonnen and Jackson as wins. If we’re talking about winstreak then with a Travis Fulton be candidate for GOAT? strength of competition consistently is why yiu do not see long standing win streaks.

Put this into perespective on why that is. Title and post bouts
Ilia Topuria x Volkanovski, Holloway and Oliveira
Jon Jones x Shogun, Jackson, Machida, Evans
Khabib x Mcgregor, Poirier, Gaethje
Merab x Aldo, Yan, Cejudo, O’Malley, Nurmagomedov

Fedor Emelianenko x Antonio Noguiera, Fujita, Goodrich, Coleman.
even after Fedors official title defense against Mirko CroCop his next bouts were Zulu, Coleman and Mark Hunt.

There’s a difference from the quality of opponents vs the quantity, those fighters above mentioned would be equal to Fedor fighting Noguiera, Kharitinov, Barnett, CroCop. Now those wins alone are worthy of GOAT candidate, imagine back to back, I would have no problem calling Fedor GOAT.

Simple yes or no would do

Answerd it, with short reasoning. Easily for yiu to read.

Will you answer this?

What has Hong Man Choi accomplished in MMA, what win, what belt, what ranking has he held in MMA? It’s simple really.

Im willling to bet your going to deflect and start going on with the insults and move goal posts, show a little bit of honesty and integrity for once.

 

[KO Shotz]

Jon Jones is the GOAT & the anti-Christ

 

[BowserJr]

One dimensional or not, Alex Pereira is more skilled, more proven, more accomplished in MMA than a good handful of Fedors opponents that you love to embellish in his win streak

We’re not about size about here buddy, only you’re. Im talking about accomplishments & merit in an opponent. Alex Pereira is an incredible win without those advantages, because he’s proven his worth in MMA. Choi didnt prove anything, you’re enthralled and using his size like it equates to actual skill level in him when a fighter like Minowa subbed him and he got beat up by a manlet let in Kickboxing.

Again you’re talking about a size advantages, you’re not talking about skills, accomplishments and merit to be considered a good win worthy of a GOAT resume. And be honest here, you would be shitting on Jones no matter what, if Jones won against someone with size advsngsge but zero skill advantage.


Jones fought zero of those opponents, because he actually was fighting elite ranked, skilled fighters. Having size, reach and height advantage means absolutely nothing when the person very unskilled in the sport of MMA, hence why a fighter of Minowa’s caliber subbed Hong Man Choi and 5’5 kickboxer was having his way with Choi prior to a nutshut. There isn’t many fighters who are that size and skilled, Struve, Schilt and Volkov are has more merit and worth as a win in MMA, than Choi.

Jones fought zero of those opponents, again because there isn’t anyone like that in MMA. It’s a null arguement because Choi is unskilled in MMA, Choi vs Fedor was freakshow level, comparable to what Jake Paul vs insert celebrity/retired MMA fighter in Boxing,

Plus you love to shit Jones calling him Jake Paul of MMA, brother Fedor Emelianenko is essentially the Jake Paul of MMA, he’s fought old opponents or first time opponents in MMA, the likes of Choi, Hunt, Ngata, Singh.

I answered it, Im willing to bet you won’t answer the question I asked you, what did Hong Man Choi accomplish in MMA, what win, what ranking, what belt, anything to be considered a great win.

Gane & Gustafson height advantage, Miocic weight advantage. No reach advantage because quite frankly because Jones genetics

No, Jones did not get to 30.

it’s not about the number, it’s about the quality of opponent which you deliberately fail to admit, in fact you diminish countless wins like Shogun, Sonnen and Jackson as wins. If we’re talking about winstreak then with a Travis Fulton be candidate for GOAT? strength of competition consistently is why yiu do not see long standing win streaks.

Put this into perespective on why that is. Title and post bouts
Ilia Topuria x Volkanovski, Holloway and Oliveira
Jon Jones x Shogun, Jackson, Machida, Evans
Khabib x Mcgregor, Poirier, Gaethje
Merab x Aldo, Yan, Cejudo, O’Malley, Nurmagomedov

Fedor Emelianenko x Antonio Noguiera, Fujita, Goodrich, Coleman.
even after Fedors official title defense against Mirko CroCop his next bouts were Zulu, Coleman and Mark Hunt.

There’s a difference from the quality of opponents vs the quantity, those fighters above mentioned would be equal to Fedor fighting Noguiera, Kharitinov, Barnett, CroCop. Now those wins alone are worthy of GOAT candidate, imagine back to back, I would have no problem calling Fedor GOAT.

Answerd it, with short reasoning. Easily for yiu to read.

Will you answer this?

What has Hong Man Choi accomplished in MMA, what win, what belt, what ranking has he held in MMA? It’s simple really.

Im willling to bet your going to deflect and start going on with the insults and move goal posts, show a little bit of honesty and integrity for once.

Glad you could finally answer the questions. Too bad you lied in part of it and didnt answer the reach question other than in the Stipe part for some reason. BTW your lie Verifiable by a simple google search. Gane has no height advantage

Gane is the same height.
Gustafson is 1 inch taller. WOW!
40+ year old retired Stipe being the only opponent with a weight advantage. WOW!

And yes I addressed your point question about Choi multiple times and requoted it to you. But keep denying what's right in front of you.

Funny that you mention quality but conveniently ignore when fighters are shop worn and or old to stack up your "quality" it again goes to show you're full of shit.

Unlike you I look at things from different angles while keeping things consistent. If you want to pars wins, fine. Yes many of fedors wins looked good at the time but in retrospect weren't. And yes he fought a lot of cans. And if ypu do that then do the same with Jones. Again many of his wins looked good at the time but in retrospect weren't. He failed tons of test, had an illegitimate title (2nd time) and was extremely inactive. Neither Fedor nor Jon look that great when looking at it like this.

If you want to toss out the nuance and context and only look at names based on their accomplishments fine. Do the same for for everyone. In this case then Fedor and Jon are relatively equal with Fedor having a slight edge of 1 or 2 more names. If you want to toss out Choi, fine. Then its pretty much a tie if not 1 more good name for Fedor.

But you wont. You're a double standard, hypocritical Jon cock sniffing, cum guzzler, who lies left and right because he gets emotional over someone being objective about Jones.

Newsflash hun. Jon doesn't give a fuck about you despite the amount of effort you put in defending him. He didn't even know you exist.

Calling a win over Stipe a "quality win" is pure bull shit. Its the most glaring example of using a name with some recognition a d past accomplishments as "quality" while neglecting the important context of that win. Fighters with over 40 fights, multiple injury/major surgeries, 2+ decades in fighting, etc... are obviously important factors to consider when seeing how good a win is or not. As is size and overall skill. Claiming size does not matter is to dismiss the fact that weight classes matter. What moron would think its even debatable.

Everyone knows that 40+ year old Stipe with no fights in 4 or 5 years and no wins in even more is not quality.

This makes the Jake Paul comparison pertinent. Compare him to Mayweather for all I care. He did the same thing but not to such an egregious degree as Jake Paul.

And no only UFC shill cock cobbler would think Alex v Jones is an interesting match. Its not. It would be more interesting to see a #10 ranked kickboxer who outweighs Jones by 100lbs and has a foot reach advantage on him. Size definitely matters, sweetie. Despite whatever Jon and Dana tell you.

Feel free to come back and eat more shit. I know you cant resist

 

[Trabaho]

HMC isn't a K1 champ. He won a qualifier GP to be at the last 16 of the K1 wgp.

His win vs Shilt was a big home town robery.

Also his rematch win vs Mighty Mo. Got KOd vs him first.

He beat Gary Goodridge and Kaoklai. Kaoklai is a MW fighting at HW.

He landed a knock down on Badr But couldn't come out for round 4 cause of broken ribs or quitting.

Never ever in 1 trilion years is HMC a K1 champ.

In MMA he literaly lost to Minowaman.


And why would Gono be a special win ? Who did he beat

re checked his record so he beat Mousasi and Lombard when they were kids and he was a grown man. Lost to any other fighter with a name. Typical Japanese fighters. Get upped to big fights cause Tokyo Drome. Musashi used to get always judges favors. But from LW and below Japanese fighters are also elite. Mw ect you can forget it.
Only Kyotaro was good at Lhw.

Sakuraba was very popular but basically Wands crash test dummy . OK he did have like 2 good wins vs elite and 10+ losses of getting KTFO.

edit ; I misspelled Musashi for Mousasi lol. Musashi is a Japanese K1 fighter.

 

[volcom5]

Glad you could finally answer the questions. Too bad you lied in part of it and didnt answer the reach question other than in the Stipe part for some reason. BTW your lie Verifiable by a simple google search. Gane has no height advantage

Gane is the same height.
Gustafson is 1 inch taller. WOW!
40+ year old retired Stipe being the only opponent with a weight advantage. WOW!

And yes I addressed your point question about Choi multiple times and requoted it to you. But keep denying what's right in front of you.

Funny that you mention quality but conveniently ignore when fighters are shop worn and or old to stack up your "quality" it again goes to show you're full of shit.

Unlike you I look at things from different angles while keeping things consistent. If you want to pars wins, fine. Yes many of fedors wins looked good at the time but in retrospect weren't. And yes he fought a lot of cans. And if ypu do that then do the same with Jones. Again many of his wins looked good at the time but in retrospect weren't. He failed tons of test, had an illegitimate title (2nd time) and was extremely inactive. Neither Fedor nor Jon look that great when looking at it like this.

If you want to toss out the nuance and context and only look at names based on their accomplishments fine. Do the same for for everyone. In this case then Fedor and Jon are relatively equal with Fedor having a slight edge of 1 or 2 more names. If you want to toss out Choi, fine. Then its pretty much a tie if not 1 more good name for Fedor.

But you wont. You're a double standard, hypocritical Jon cock sniffing, cum guzzler, who lies left and right because he gets emotional over someone being objective about Jones.

Newsflash hun. Jon doesn't give a fuck about you despite the amount of effort you put in defending him. He didn't even know you exist.

Calling a win over Stipe a "quality win" is pure bull shit. Its the most glaring example of using a name with some recognition a d past accomplishments as "quality" while neglecting the important context of that win. Fighters with over 40 fights, multiple injury/major surgeries, 2+ decades in fighting, etc... are obviously important factors to consider when seeing how good a win is or not. As is size and overall skill. Claiming size does not matter is to dismiss the fact that weight classes matter. What moron would think its even debatable.

Everyone knows that 40+ year old Stipe with no fights in 4 or 5 years and no wins in even more is not quality.

This makes the Jake Paul comparison pertinent. Compare him to Mayweather for all I care. He did the same thing but not to such an egregious degree as Jake Paul.

And no only UFC shill cock cobbler would think Alex v Jones is an interesting match. Its not. It would be more interesting to see a #10 ranked kickboxer who outweighs Jones by 100lbs and has a foot reach advantage on him. Size definitely matters, sweetie. Despite whatever Jon and Dana tell you.

Feel free to come back and eat more shit. I know you cant resist

LOL, fucking pathetic. Thanks for proving your worth.

What a waste of time, can’t even be honest with yourself and answer a simple question, i didnt ask you for measurements, I asked you what did Hong Man Choi accomplish in MMA, to be considered a elite top tier win for Fedor in MMA. Offcourse you’re going to deflect and weasel your way out of not providing a honest answer.

Thanks for showing everyone your hypocrisy.

You’re a fucking a mess, the very thought of Jon Jones has you all kinds of fucked up. Lol, good luck with the crusade, because at this point no one can take any of your views serious with the amount lies,dishonesty, hypocrisy and double standards you’re providing.

 

[BowserJr]

Projection, projection, projection

Denial, denial, denial


That's the name of your game as I said many a time. You cant handle simple reality in front of you. I answered you multiple times and requited it so all can see.

You saying I'm not worth the time is especially rich since you cant help yourself when you see my AV. You rush to respond to me even when I'm not talking to you.

When I do respond to your many messages to me you spend 3 hours writing a reply


Its too good LMFAO!

Meanwhile I never begin an engagement with you LOL

If I'm not worth your time stop responding to me and stop engaging with me to begin with....

but lemme guess you wont

 

[volcom5]

Projection, projection, projection

Denial, denial, denial


That's the name of your game as I said many a time. You cant handle simple reality in front of you. I answered you multiple times and requited it so all can see.

You saying I'm not worth the time is especially rich since you cant help yourself when you see my AV. You rush to respond to me even when I'm not talking to you.

When I do respond to your many messages to me you spend 3 hours writing a reply


Its too good LMFAO!

Meanwhile I never begin an engagement with you LOL

If I'm not worth your time stop responding to me and stop engaging with me to begin with....

but lemme guess you wont

You’re still going off? Lol.

All I did was call your dishonest delusional hypocritical ass out.

Let’s see, you have said.
-Dan Henderson beat a peak Shogun, but Jon Jones didnt.
-Ricardo Arona in his 2nd MMA fight was in his prime, Lol. But… Ryan Bader and Jon Jones 12 fights into their careers were not.
-Chael Sonnen is a good win for Fedor Emelianenko, but not for Jon Jones.
-Deliberately omitted Parisyan, Serra, Hardy & Miller as wins for GSP to keep his top wins below Fedors.#
-Calls Jon Jones the Jake Paul of MMA, yet he’s literally done nothing to even compare to what Jake Paul has done in Boxing, in fact Fedor Emelianenko has done more Jake Paul esq bouts in Ngata, Zulu, Choi, Singh, Hunt.
-Diminishes Jones win over Stipe, yet praises Fedor for beating up a 39 & 41yr Mark Coleman twice in 04 and 06, who hasn’t won a meaningful bouts since 2000. At least keep the same energy you have for Fedor, Stipe hasn’t won a meaningful bout since Cormier 4years prior, like Coleman 4 years prior also.
-Doesnt consider Ilia Topuria, Jon Jones, Merabs, or Khabib wins quality, yet claims Hong Man Choi as a GOAT tier win for Fedor. Lol.

You can keep posting your silly gifs and insults thinking it mean much, when it’s clearly a way of comping with being exposed.

It’s out there for everyone to see your dishonesty across this board, which you keep editing a majority of your posts one getting called out for your lies.

Keep doing your thing.

 

[volcom5]

@BowserJr

This is what you consider title defenses for Fedor comparable to Jones, after winning a title.

Fedor - Jones-
Valivicious - Jackson
Fujita - Machida
Goodridge - Evans
Ngata - Belfort
Coleman - Sonnen
Randleman - Gustafson
Ogawa - Texiera
Noguiera - Cormier
Kosaka - St Preux
CroCop - Cormier(NC)
Zulu - Gustafson
Coleman - Smith
Hunt - Santos
Lindland - Reyes
Choi - Gane
Sylvia - Miocic
Arlovski
Rogers


Quality really is better than quantity.

 

[BowserJr]

@BowserJr

This is what you consider title defenses for Fedor comparable to Jones, after winning a title.

Fedor - Jones-
Valivicious - Jackson
Fujita - Machida
Goodridge - Evans
Ngata - Belfort
Coleman - Sonnen
Randleman - Gustafson
Ogawa - Texiera
Noguiera - Cormier
Kosaka - St Preux
CroCop - Cormier(NC)
Zulu - Gustafson
Coleman - Smith
Hunt - Santos
Lindland - Reyes
Choi - Gane
Sylvia - Miocic
Arlovski
Rogers


Quality really is better than quantity.

Completely arbitrary comparison lol.

"Not worth the time" yet you send me multiple responses, one of which is another FRAT post.

The best part is the projection

I've already checkmate all your arguments multiple times and addressed everything directly.

You can keep flailing and coming back to eat shit all you want, further proving my claim that you enjoy sucking dog turds straight out their ass.

I'll just keep shitting on you since you've already proven you have no coherent thought or argument.

Just delusion and projection

 

[volcom5]

Completely arbitrary comparison lol.

"Not worth the time" yet you send me multiple responses, one of which is another FRAT post.

The best part is the projection

I've already checkmate all your arguments multiple times and addressed everything directly.

You can keep flailing and coming back to eat shit all you want, further proving my claim that you enjoy sucking dog turds straight out their ass.

I'll just keep shitting on you since you've already proven you have no coherent thought or argument.

Just delusion and projection

You didn’t check mate anything, infact you slither away like a coward at the simple question with a simple answer. Lol.

Literally you’re the only person who has ever used Hong Man Choi as a reason why someone can be considered GOAT in MMA, no one in Kickboxing uses Choi as a validation for GOAT let alone MMA. Lol

You’re literally a meme right now on this forum. Lol.

 

[BowserJr]

You’re literally a meme right now on this forum. Lol.

Sure dude. Make up whatever fantasies you need to get through your day. This entire thread proves once again that Im rent free in your empty head and you have no argument.

Just pure unhinged emotional flailing when you see objectivity for JBJ. Followed by delusions and projection.

If dropped so many deuces into this empty head of yours I should start a fertilizer factory in here.

Literally other random people have told you to Stop bitching, moaning and complaining. LOL