Daniel Cormier would be a monster at MW

[12ga.]

Cormier getting down to 185 would be like Conor getting down to 135.

No it wouldnt. Is conor carrying around a spare tire around his back and belly? What do you think the mass of that is? DC loses that he makes 185 like conor makes 145.

If he he doesnt want to thats fine. He dominate enough at LHW. But stop pretending DC isnt carry around at least 20 lbs of dead weight.

 

[Fincher7]

No it wouldnt. Is conor carrying around a spare tire around his back and belly? What do you think the mass of that is? DC loses that he makes 185 like conor makes 145.

No, it wouldn't. Conor weighs in looking like a skeleton at 145. DC weighs in at 205 with a roll of fat around his gut.

Have you seen DC before he weighs in at 205? He looks like he's fucking dying.

 

[SPB]

Have you seen DC before he weighs in at 205? He looks like he's fucking dying.

Yes, dying with a roll of fat around his gut, not to mention that back fat.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

He is the fucking champ at LHW and beat Gustaffson who is taller than Jones and won the Strikeforce HW GP but he's too small for LHW?

Based on his frame and height (and yes frame) he would be more optimum at MW. The guy carries a lot of body fat at LHW and carried even more at HW. Is he still a very good LHW? Yes, but it is foolish to believe that being 20% body fat somehow means you are more effective and efficient than if you lost that fat.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Yes, dying with a roll of fat around his gut, not to mention that back fat.

A lot of guys in here don't realize how important height is with regards to optimum weight.

^^ and that is at 6% body fat. Now add roughly 15-20lbs for each height and that is what you got fighters in the UFC typically weighting based on their height. The exception is LHW and HW though... Larger frames and height give you more to fill up and you don't sacrifice as much as a shorter guy does who bulks beyond what is effective for his height like Mark Hunt who is practically Obese and 5'10 fighting at HW and having to cut to make 265lbs.....

Hunt also gives up TONS of reach, leverage, and size by fighting significantly taller fighters while he himself is overweight carrying excess fat. It isn't optimum for health, fighting or athleticism.

 

[105]

Bullshit. He has a temporary condition that many other wrestlers have had, from HS through College and beyond. He didn't have kidney failure, isn't on dialysis, he isn't on a list for a transplant.

He got FAT before the Olympics and tried to cut more than 30 pounds for his match. That caused a temporary shut down of his kidney function. After re-hydration he was back to normal.

Then he went to Popeyes.

But once it happens, it's more likely to repeat and takes less dehydration... Mind you I tell you this with experience behind it.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Cormier in college wrestling at 184



This is college but this shows that Cormier isn't some naturally pudgy guy and that he just got fat after college.

Add probably 15-20lbs and he was most likely 200lbs during that match. And likely walking around at maybe 220lbs tops if he got really out of shape (fat like Johny Hendricks does).

So basically an in-shape Cormier should be roughly 200lbs, and maybe walks around at 210-220lbs tops. Right now however, Cormier is like 225lbs in the cage, and walking around at like 240lbs.....

And keep in mind on a 5'10 frame (he is 5'10 and something listed that his whole career) until UFC inflated his height by 1 inch).

That still makes him at least 10lbs heavier than your average WW who are on average 5'9, 5'10 and 5'11 and weight 185-194lbs tops.

 

[Drake]

No chance DC can make MW. He's thick as fuck.

 

[josh345]

Gegard Mousasi would fucking CRUSH at LW

Lol! I wasn't expecting that

 

[Flokk]

If he'd be a beast at MW just imagine what he could do at WW and then LW.

 

[scorpipede]

Cormier is a big guy but he's not very tall and carries a lot of spare weight. When he comes up against bigger guys in the division like Jones he finds it difficult. It's too late now as he is nearing retirement but if he was willing to cut down he would have dominated MW. Anderson would have had nothing for him we've already seen how that fight goes. DC is too strong of a wrestler. He'd have a much bigger size advantage at MW and wouldn't have to worry about his T-rex reach. He could easily walk around the cage at 205/210 maybe more come fight night if he had a specialist looking after his cut.

LHW is a weaker division than MW so I understand why he didn't want to go down but lets say the divisions were equally stacked, he would have more success in MW in my opinion.

Agree?

@Dublin stop it.

staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahp!

 

[Franklin U.]

Lets gets this straight cause I don't want to come on here and repeat myself .Daniel Cormier would be a corpse at 185.

 

[SPB]

But once it happens, it's more likely to repeat and takes less dehydration... Mind you I tell you this with experience behind it.

Nope. After rehydration and time your kidneys don't know it ever happened. Unless you had kidney failure, and then you would be on dialysis and waiting for a transplant.

If Cormier had some sort of renal problem I doubt he could be licensed.

So tell us more about you condition. I'll tell you I passed two kidney stones last month. Most painful think I ever did.

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

This is him at 182. Does that look like a guy killing himself to make 205? He could make 185 with little problems if he had a nutritionist monitoring his diet

He has love handles for christ sakes!!! And that is AFTER CUTTING!!!! His body fat is definitely in the double digits at that picture.

I swear to god you, me and a few others in this thread are the only ones who work out and can see the obvious which is that Cormier carries a lot of excess fat and could definitely make 185lbs...

LOL

Exaclty what we are talking about.

 

[SPB]

Lets gets this straight cause I don't want to come on here and repeat myself .Daniel Cormier would be a corpse at 185.

Based on? He used to wrestle at 185 as a 23 year old. He didn't look dead. He hasn't gotten any taller, and doesn't have any more limbs than he had then.

He is Fatter. Way fatter.

 

[3timesacharm]

he is a monster at LHW and the champion. he wouldnt make the cut to 185

 

[SouthoftheAndes]

Based on? He used to wrestle at 185 as a 23 year old. He didn't look dead. He hasn't gotten any taller, and doesn't have any more limbs than he had then.

He is Fatter. Way fatter.

I really don't understand why this is so hard for everyone to understand. The experts can see it so why can't other people? It is like Fedor he is basically a natural LHW. MW probably a push but definitely a LHW.

It is obvious that he is carries a lot of fat. Cormier at LHW at 220lbs looks not that much different than Johny Hendricks when he ballons up to 220lbs and has 25% body fat. Okay Cormier does look a little better, but the point is still the same.

he is a monster at LHW and the champion. he wouldnt make the cut to 185

I doubt he will ever do it and dominating at a higher weight class against taller opponents (roughly) I think is more impressive than him cutting to MW. Although, MW is more like his natural weight class given the amount of muscle mass he has and what he wrestled at in College. Most guys who are his height are optimum fighting shape fighting at LW or WW tops. A few can post to MW, and Cormier is one of those few... However, LHW is a push and yet he shows how good he really is by dominating at LHW.

Still though, it is undeniable that he could make 185lbs. Doubt he does it though given that he is the champ at LHW and that he is older and likely will be retired in 5 years. It would take some serious effort on his part he would have to stop pigging out in off seasons and balloning up past 230lbs (like he currently does) and would need to diet and cut his weight down (burn off fat) and get down to like 210lbs. Once there, then he could gain back some strength/muscle than cut more fat until he hits like 205lbs. Then from there a water cut could take him to 185lbs.

 

[12ga.]

He should just do like Fedor did. (another guy who could be a MW) just eat whatever and take out real HWs.

@Franklin are you ignoring he wrestled at 184 on purpose or just ignorant? He would not be a corpse but in shape.

 

[Steve08]

This is him at 182. Does that look like a guy killing himself to make 205? He could make 185 with little problems if he had a nutritionist monitoring his diet

182? He weighed in at 224 on that card.. he was trying to make 184 when he had his infamous kidney issues prior to the Olympics.

@Franklin are you ignoring he wrestled at 184 on purpose or just ignorant? He would not be a corpse but in shape.

He wrestled at that weight when he was IN COLLEGE 15 years ago, yeah. It doesn't get easier to cut weight when you're older.

 

[ReadWrite]

Since he almost died once, why don't you delete this thread?

Long before UFC 170 co-main eventer Daniel Cormier had to make the light heavyweight limit of 205 pounds, he spent nearly seven years competing around the world as a freestyle wrestler at 211 pounds. At the 2008 Olympics, Cormier's second Games representing the United States, Cormier dehydrated himself so severely in making the weight limit, that he almost died, and had to forfeit out of Olympic competition. Fox Sport's Damon Martin posted an article which chronicles the results of the wrestler's tragic 2008 weight cut. (msn.foxsports.com)

Cormier got down to the required weight but hours later his kidneys shut down from the trauma endured to cut the extra pounds. The former Oklahoma State wrestler went to a local hospital in Beijing to try and have fluids put back into his body, but nothing was working and his health just deteriorated from there.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/2/1...-caused-him-to-drop-out-ufc-170-2008-olympics