Daniel Cormier would be a monster at MW

If Cormier was at MW he would be champ easily, he totally dominates Bisping without any problems I think.
 
thechoice2 said:
Cormier in college wrestling at 184



This is college but this shows that Cormier isn't some naturally pudgy guy and that he just got fat after college.
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What was that ? 15 years ago
 
It would take him multiple years and a total lifestyle change to get down to what his frame probably warrants
 
If anything I would like to see him at HW
 
SPB said:
Based on? He used to wrestle at 185 as a 23 year old. He didn't look dead. He hasn't gotten any taller, and doesn't have any more limbs than he had then.

He is Fatter. Way fatter.
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August 21,2008--the day Mr.Cormier almost died weight cutting down to 211 lbs. for Olympics. ..211 pounds not 185 pounds---211 pounds.

Go ask him about AN IMPOSSIBLE move to 185 pounds.......u might get smacked.Hes not a young man , anymore to add to it.
 
Area809 said:
A 23 year old body and 37 year old body are completely are completely different. You don't know what the circumstances were when he was 23 years old in relation to now at 37. Stop acting like you have intimate knowledge of his personal life.
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He was physically done growing and fully mature at 23. That isn't information about his personal life, that is human biology.


Rumble has more weight to lose and has done it before, but is it smart for him to do so? Did it matter when he got out grappled but the smaller Koscheck?

I think DC knows better than all of you what works best for him. He went 5 rounds with Jones, and has convincingly beaten every other opponent, bigger/smaller to become champion. Somehow this thread is suggesting he's not diciplined or that he's lazy. I respect people's opinions, but that doesn't mean I don't think the opinions are ridiculous.
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DC train wrecked his Olympic career by showing up overweight. He was team captain and considered a contender for gold. The fact that he was failing to make 211lbs but can now make 205lbs nearly a decade later should contextualize for you the eating problems he was having.

He showed up at UFC 200 with his face completely drawn in - he was bone dry - but you could see he still had a flabby belly.

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Honestly look at his face, this is at the 'fake' weigh at night so he's re-hydrated - can you see how drawn in he looks? That means he did another hero water cut despite having plenty of loose body fat he could have shed. This is simply a eating problem he's had and its followed him throughout his adult career.

I never commented on his decision to fight 205lbs, or his qualities there - certainly he is one of the great fighters of his generation. However, to the point of this topic, yes he is the size of a middleweight and with discipline could fight there. If he should is another discussion.

To dispute Daniel Cormier has bad eating discipline is just absurd. It's a matter of record.
 
Cormier would be an even bigger monster at 155
 
Cormier could easily make 185 if he wanted to, but he has zero control/discipline over his eating habits.

Just look at the amount of fat he still carries at LHW.
If he just controlled his diet and got down to 7~8% bodyfat, he could easily make 185.
 
If he really had to he could do a rumble-esque cut to 185, but similar to Johnson it would hurt him and he would perform very badly, cormier had kidney failure last time he tried a similar cut.
He actually carries his weight very well as he looks even faster and stronger when he's at 235.
 
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He is a barrel and doesn't carry around the beach muscles most guys insist upon having.
 
Lamfadha said:
Daniel Cormier and Mark Hunt are way outside the max mass of that chart you posted. Mark Hunt had minimal fat on him in his early K-1 career at 110kg/240lbs maybe could lose to 102kg/225lbs to have abs.
Daniel Cormier you noted wrestled at 184lbs/83kg when he wasn't fat which means he cut to it. That is more than the 177/171lb "ripped" in that chart.

Not to mention they are not anglo-saxon ethinically / Medium-Small frame which BMI is based off of.
Ergo it is bullshit to say that two large framed ethinically diverse fighters should conform to your expectations of ideal body. Height doesn't equal weight.
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Cormier wrestled at 184lbs which means he was likely 15 to 20lbs heavier when actually wrestling. So he was like 200lbs when you see him in those videos. As I said before an in shape Cormier should be around 200lbs, and give or take 20lbs tops for if he gets out of shape. He could definitely make MW he would just need to lose a lot of fat and get his weight down to like 200lbs then do a clean bulk to like 210lbs to gain back some sttenth he would lose from all that fat shedding. Then he could slim down to 205lbs and then be able to easily cut water weight to make 185lbs.

Right now Cormier is like 60lbs over weight from the chart I posted. And his body fat % is quite high probably at leaSt 14%. Mark Hunt is basically 100lbs more.

Also, that chart I posted is not about or exclusive to Anglo fighters nor is it about BMI.
 
rjmbrd said:
He was physically done growing and fully mature at 23. That isn't information about his personal life, that is human biology.





DC train wrecked his Olympic career by showing up overweight. He was team captain and considered a contender for gold. The fact that he was failing to make 211lbs but can now make 205lbs nearly a decade later should contextualize for you the eating problems he was having.

He showed up at UFC 200 with his face completely drawn in - he was bone dry - but you could see he still had a flabby belly.

zXtlFW5.jpg


Honestly look at his face, this is at the 'fake' weigh at night so he's re-hydrated - can you see how drawn in he looks? That means he did another hero water cut despite having plenty of loose body fat he could have shed. This is simply a eating problem he's had and its followed him throughout his adult career.

I never commented on his decision to fight 205lbs, or his qualities there - certainly he is one of the great fighters of his generation. However, to the point of this topic, yes he is the size of a middleweight and with discipline could fight there. If he should is another discussion.

To dispute Daniel Cormier has bad eating discipline is just absurd. It's a matter of record.
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Again, you are simply especulating. You weren't there. You're not there now. You don't know how he trains, you don't know what his nutrition is like, you don't know a thing about what he does. Don't pretend like you do.
 
lol it's hard enough for Cormier to cut to LHW.
 
Area809 said:
Again, you are simply especulating. You weren't there. You're not there now. You don't know how he trains, you don't know what his nutrition is like, you don't know a thing about what he does. Don't pretend like you do.
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What on earth are you talking about?

DC has a sloppy belly, that isn't up for debate.

He cut water weight to make 206lbs despite having extra body fat. So goes the story of his career, dude likes to eat.
 
Its amazing how msny people talk from their asses around here, the % is ridiculous....Daniel Cormier is a thick and dense human being(hence, he's a goddam heavyweight)...
Theres even an article dating back to the as summer of 2008 where Daniel was hospitalized trying to make the 211 pound Olympic mark.
At his age, today --Cormier being a middle weight is absolutely ridiculous.

You go and ask DC if there'd be any circumstance hed attempt to cut to 185-----go ask him, lol.

People, humans (even pro athletes) come in different shapes and sizes and some are not meant to be at certain weights.I dont care how tall or small u are.

If Cormier is ever 185 pounds, it'll because he is out of the fight game and is trying the Adkins diet in his late forties..
 
Franklin U. said:
If Cormier is ever 185 pounds, it'll because he is out of the fight game and is trying the Adkins diet in his late forties..
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I think the only way Cormier could ever get down to around 180 is if he got addicted to meth lol
 
rjmbrd said:
What on earth are you talking about?

DC has a sloppy belly, that isn't up for debate.

He cut water weight to make 206lbs despite having extra body fat. So goes the story of his career, dude likes to eat.
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Again, I'd take your comment seriously if you were inside his camp and had knowledge of his regiment. You don't know what he's doing. Don't pretend like you do.

It's beyond strange how you speak with such conviction about this--yet, you're not there with the guy.
 
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