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Economy Crown Corporations - the worst of both worlds

ColemanwastheGOAT

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I run a small business in Canada and I had to raise my shipping costs within Canada today. It now costs $18 to ship a very small, very light envelope within Canada. The reason? They classify it as a parcel. It doesn't matter if it's in an envelope and weighs .1lbs. It's a parcel if it contains anything other than paper.

Meanwhile sending the same 'parcel' to the furthest reaches of the USA costs $8.

You read that right. Sending a small 'parcel' within Canada costs more than double what it costs to send it to Florida.

It's aldo cheaper to ship to Europe. I can send a small parcel to most parts of Europe for about $12 provided I choose a non-tracked option. There is no non-tracked option within Canada and the US.

The USPS is run by the US government. It loses money every quarter the same way Canada Post does, but that cost is picked up by the taxpayers.

A lot of European countries have privatized their Mail Delivery.

So there's two business models available that are both far better than the current Canadian set-up.

How is this possible? How has Canada got a worse system than public or private mail delivery? Canada Post is a Crown Corporation. For those unfamiliar with this blasphemous union here's a quick breakdown:


I am pretty libertarian in general though I'm not an an-cap. I recognize that it makes sense to run some things through government such as national defense.



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Happy Canadian *ahem* postal workers at their annual strike.



I am open to either option. Here in Canada, there are calls to privatized Canada Post but no widespread support for nationalizing it.

What say you? Privatize like Germany or nationalize like the US? I can see an argument for both although Canada is already running on a deficit and would need to make massive cuts to other sectors in order to take on the kind of losses Canada Post is currently dealing with.
 
mate i bought something from canada at the start of january and yeah it's been like 15 bucks shipping but arrival date is in late february. that's insanely slow. i got something from new zealand in 3 weeks. within europe i routinely get shit from all over in 2-3 days. i've never had a longer wait for something than this thing from canada. so it's either EXTREMELY incompetent or it's deliberately being killed to make room for private stuff.
 
I think with post you should have the option. If someone can do it cheaper and more efficiently than Canada post then they should be allowed to as it's clearly not functional at the moment.

The problem I have is when public utilities get sold of to private bidders and they end up making them worse and just run them for profit like we've had happen over here.

The post office here recently changed hands because it was losing money (it was already private) but I wasn't really fussed about nationalising that as it's a money loser for a shrinking industry.

The idea of nationalising public transport, power and water is exciting to me though.
 
not only is it cheaper to send something to florida, it would be cheaper to send it to florida and then have it sent to somewhere within Canada from florida than it is to send to it somewhere in Canada to begin with.
 
mate i bought something from canada at the start of january and yeah it's been like 15 bucks shipping but arrival date is in late february. that's insanely slow. i got something from new zealand in 3 weeks. within europe i routinely get shit from all over in 2-3 days. i've never had a longer wait for something than this thing from canada. so it's either EXTREMELY incompetent or it's deliberately being killed to make room for private stuff.
Oh it's incompetent. Grossly.
 
An “American” running a business in another country complaining about that country’s system. Why not just relocate the business?
 
An “American” running a business in another country complaining about that country’s system. Why not just relocate the business?

I don't really sell much within Canada, so it's definitely not something I'd move over. I am actually considering moving back to the states for unrelated reasons though. Thanks for asking.

I always lol how you hicks think people living overseas is some crazy thing. I moved to Canada when I was 9. I didn't have much of a say in the matter.
 
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I don't really sell much within Canada, so it's definitely not something I'd move over. I am actually considering moving back to the states though. Thanks for asking.

I always lol how you hicks think people living overseas is some crazy thing. I moved to Canada when I was 9. I didn't have much of a say in the matter.

Well you used to say you’re Canadian then you switched to saying your an American living in Canada. You kind of sound like the person people were complaining about in the Americans not loyal to America thread. You’re the one that was crying about Canada not me.


As a Canadian, if they think they can take our most retarded country title with this weak shit they haven't been paying attention.
 
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Well you used to say you’re Canadian then you switched to saying your an American living in Canada. You kind of sound like the person people were complaining about in the Americans not loyal to America thread.

I consider myself both. Sorry if that bothers you, maybe you can talk to your therapist about it next week.
 
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