International Should Canada join the EU?

[Blayt7hh]

Yalls only source is the infamous "Trust me bro"

You guys are BROKE

Well I just googled “Canadas national debt” and google is telling me it’s 1.5 trillion. So should I trust your random tweet or google, bro?

 

[Ares Black]

Yalls only source is the infamous "Trust me bro"

You guys are BROKE

Canada's national debt is 1.2 trillion

The US national debt is 36.2 trillion

 

[MWB1982]

The only thing Canada exports nowadays are those fancy suicide pods they invented

They're suiciding everybody using psychologist and those pods

You want to learn about some of the dark shit Canada is into, look into that. Suicide pods

They're fake nice people

 

[SandisLL]

I am not sure what you meant by this post

You just will taste in real life.

 

[MWB1982]

Canada's national debt is 1.2 trillion

The US national debt is 36.2 trillion

You just proved how stupid you are

Our economies are no where near as close.. Our debt is manageable.. Your debt is destroying your country

We just streamlined our government and got rid of all the leeches. And we're breaking everyone with tariffs

 

[Ares Black]

Well I just googled “Canadas national debt” and google is telling me it’s 1.5 trillion. So should I trust your random tweet or google, bro?

Poilievre was talking about national debt plus personal debts, but it's still an extremely dishonest position.

Poilievre relies heavily on the ignorance of his audience. He's pretty much completely full of shit.

 

[Ares Black]

You just will taste in real life.

I honestly just didn't understand what you were saying

 

[Ares Black]

You just proved how stupid you are

Our economies are no where near as close.. Our debt is manageable.. Your debt is destroying your country

I don't think you have any understanding of economics at all TBH. I think you just believe everything you read from your approved sources and parrot the propaganda like a good little boy.

We just streamlined our government and got rid of all the leeches.

Lol exactly like this

And we're breaking everyone with tariffs

Sure you are

 

[SandisLL]

Canada has been feeding off America since before I was born. Completely reliant on the US

Don't worry. They does have not lesser resources than Russia and easily might find partners in other countries and be happy with 0 trade with U.S and U.S with Trump will sit in corner and STFU.

Cope. Maybe better sanctions? Please american dream.

Apply sanctions on Canada and threat them in MAGA souce and taste..

Please, don't express empty threats from money printing machine living in lies and fear from any peer level opponent.


Introduce 10000% tariffs today and attack in real life not talk.

Attack . .or stfu.

 

[Blayt7hh]

Poilievre was talking about national debt plus personal debts, but it's still an extremely dishonest position.

Poilievre relies heavily on the ignorance of his audience. He's pretty much completely full of shit.

The good ol’ adage, figures don’t lie but liars figure.

 

[Bojka]

Canada has been feeding off America since before I was born. Completely reliant on the US

Canada and the US had a mutually beneficial relationship for a long time. It's just in America's interest to negotiate better and better trade deals for themselves, which they apparently had already been doing for a while. Although most people seem to think that Trump turning the dial up so abruptly was a mistake even for the US.

From what I understand, Canada's economic problems are the result of 1) too many regulations preventing business growth and 2) not using IPs developed within Canada to develop industry within the country. 1) and 2) could be related in that they might just opt to sell IP if building businesses and industry within the country is too difficult anyway.

On top of those things, we have a huge chunk of our top STEM graduates leaving the country now. A lot of the top graduates I went to school with are already living in the US. I expect that to increase pretty rapidly. In some fields already, if you can get sponsored to work in the US, it's seen as a sort of meal ticket.

Tariffs would hit Canada pretty hard due to how economically vulnerable we are. It's already a crisis for a lot of people and our healthcare is legitimately starting to fail. To me the relevant question this election isn't who is better able to deal with tariffs, but why we are in such a disastrous state (which makes it a lot easier to be bullied) to begin with.

 

[Andy Capp]

Canada and the US had a mutually beneficial relationship for a long time. It's just in America's interest to negotiate better and better trade deals for themselves, which they apparently had already been doing for a while. Although most people seem to think that Trump turning the dial up so abruptly was a mistake even for the US.

From what I understand, Canada's economic problems are the result of 1) too many regulations preventing business growth and 2) not using IPs developed within Canada to develop industry within the country. 1) and 2) could be related in that they might just opt to sell IP if building businesses and industry within the country is too difficult anyway.

On top of those things, we have a huge chunk of our top STEM graduates leaving the country now. A lot of the top graduates I went to school with are already living in the US. I expect that to increase pretty rapidly. In some fields already, if you can get sponsored to work in the US, it's seen as a sort of meal ticket.

Tariffs would hit Canada pretty hard due to how economically vulnerable we are. It's already a crisis for a lot of people and our healthcare is legitimately starting to fail. To me the relevant question this election isn't who is better able to deal with tariffs, but why we are in such a disastrous state (which makes it a lot easier to be bullied) to begin with.

Re: that last question, do you mean, for example, the COVID-19 pandemic? I grant there is merit to some of the other concerns you raised, particularly the part about retaining IP and fostering its development here.

I disagree with, "...our healthcare is legitimately starting to fail". In fact, I'd say the worst has passed. We're doing all sorts of things to increase access to care. Of course, people are hurting right now and no amount of improvement will be quick enough to spare every single person who needs care right now, sadly, but improvements are being made.

Every province except P.E.I. has enacted a Practice-Ready Assessment (PRA) program to complete a clinical workplace-based assessment. That only takes 12 weeks. It's for foreign doctors and med school graduates. P.E.I.'s medical school takes in its first class of students in August, though, at least, but that will take a while to bear fruit and the lack of a PRA here annoys me a lot. We have a massive doctor shortage here. So, looking at this in the context of politics, I think the greater share of the blame for our situation lies with the provincial government, not the current federal government.

I'll tell you one thing that won't help shore up the medical system in this country: the tax cuts promised by little PP if he wins the election. So, as if I needed another reason to not vote for him, he stepped right up and gave me one.

As for the thread topic, without a long list of pros and a very short list of cons, I wouldn't support seeking EU membership, as I stated earlier. But strengthening ties to lower our exposure to mercurial fuckery by the US is never going to be a bad thing.

As for negotiating better trade deals, that's definitely not the motivatation for the tariffs. Trump himself (taking credit for) negotiating what he called the best trade deal ever (paraphrasing) puts paid to that silly notion.

 

[aerius]

You just proved how stupid you are

Our economies are no where near as close.. Our debt is manageable.. Your debt is destroying your country

We just streamlined our government and got rid of all the leeches. And we're breaking everyone with tariffs

You just proved you're a retard who can't do math. The debt to GDP ratio is what determines how manageable the debt is, it's a measure of how much debt a nation has per dollar of income. The US has a ratio of about 1.3:1 whereas for Canada the ratio is a bit under 0.7:1. The US debt load is almost twice as high as Canada's, the US is the nation that's going to get fucked over first by its debts, not us.

 

[Bojka]

Re: that last question, do you mean, for example, the COVID-19 pandemic? I grant there is merit to some of the other concerns you raised, particularly the part about retaining IP and fostering its development here.

I disagree with, "...our healthcare is legitimately starting to fail". In fact, I'd say the worst has passed. We're doing all sorts of things to increase access to care. Of course, people are hurting right now and no amount of improvement will be quick enough to spare every single person who needs care right now, sadly, but improvements are being made.

Every province except P.E.I. has enacted a Practice-Ready Assessment (PRA) program to complete a clinical workplace-based assessment. That only takes 12 weeks. It's for foreign doctors and med school graduates. P.E.I.'s medical school takes in its first class of students in August, though, at least, but that will take a while to bear fruit and the lack of a PRA here annoys me a lot. We have a massive doctor shortage here. So, looking at this in the context of politics, I think the greater share of the blame for our situation lies with the provincial government, not the current federal government.

I'll tell you one thing that won't help shore up the medical system in this country: the tax cuts promised by little PP if he wins the election. So, as if I needed another reason to not vote for him, he stepped right up and gave me one.

As for the thread topic, without a long list of pros and a very short list of cons, I wouldn't support seeking EU membership, as I stated earlier. But strengthening ties to lower our exposure to mercurial fuckery by the US is never going to be a bad thing.

As for negotiating better trade deals, that's definitely not the motivatation for the tariffs. Trump himself (taking credit for) negotiating what he called the best trade deal ever (paraphrasing) puts paid to that silly notion.

Access to healthcare in Canada has always been strategically limited in order to make it more affordable for the government and taxpayers. I am not sure how you see this going in the long term regardless of whatever short term (increases in) deficits they are/are planning on running to address an emergency if our economy continues to decline, which it almost certainly will.

 

[SandisLL]

Re: that last question, do you mean, for example, the COVID-19 pandemic? I grant there is merit to some of the other concerns you raised, particularly the part about retaining IP and fostering its development here.

I disagree with, "...our healthcare is legitimately starting to fail". In fact, I'd say the worst has passed. We're doing all sorts of things to increase access to care. Of course, people are hurting right now and no amount of improvement will be quick enough to spare every single person who needs care right now, sadly, but improvements are being made.

Every province except P.E.I. has enacted a Practice-Ready Assessment (PRA) program to complete a clinical workplace-based assessment. That only takes 12 weeks. It's for foreign doctors and med school graduates. P.E.I.'s medical school takes in its first class of students in August, though, at least, but that will take a while to bear fruit and the lack of a PRA here annoys me a lot. We have a massive doctor shortage here. So, looking at this in the context of politics, I think the greater share of the blame for our situation lies with the provincial government, not the current federal government.

I'll tell you one thing that won't help shore up the medical system in this country: the tax cuts promised by little PP if he wins the election. So, as if I needed another reason to not vote for him, he stepped right up and gave me one.

As for the thread topic, without a long list of pros and a very short list of cons, I wouldn't support seeking EU membership, as I stated earlier. But strengthening ties to lower our exposure to mercurial fuckery by the US is never going to be a bad thing.

As for negotiating better trade deals, that's definitely not the motivatation for the tariffs. Trump himself (taking credit for) negotiating what he called the best trade deal ever (paraphrasing) puts paid to that silly notion.

Why Canada should join EU?
EU bireucracy is slow like snail ( helix ) and therefore nightmare...

Alternative is EEZ agreement like Norway does have with EU. Lesser tariffs % and without EU dictate in depth.

rump is populist supporting very rich ologarchs and ohers for him are just noise and trash. Ofc before elections rump and co will knew how to talk with dreamers voters...

Looks till mid term elections maybe rump even with kisk support might not keep senate and congress under control dspite social media for sheeps voters...
If will continue like today.
MAGA prices and MAGA bills ...cope, life after death will be better...MAGA.

 

[SandisLL]

You just proved how stupid you are

Our economies are no where near as close.. Our debt is manageable.. Your debt is destroying your country

We just streamlined our government and got rid of all the leeches. And we're breaking everyone with tariffs

I didn't had get how you calculate debt in order to attach this to some mythical debt in order to describe " debt ".

MAGA retard route.

So if you use to describe as national debt also with addition of private and corporate debts then U.S should STFU today...then it isn't jus 36 t or like this.
Smerica isn't world hegemony anymore and will not be able being lying pussies living in debts to use empty threats and keep running money printing machine.
Even North Korea doesn't fear from weak U.S.

Learn to STFU.... hegemony in fear and dreams...Pump....PUMP....PUMP....