Could Aspinall beat Gane?

[spinitch]

Gane is a very good striker. Ok TDD. Underestimated Tai a bit since his appearance and movement deceptive. Tai is like Hunt with a pretty fast and hard punches. Tai also has a solid chin so gambles trading. Gane adjusted after getting tagged and took a safer offensive. Gane TDD is ok against average grapplers but Jones is quite good matched DC. Francis very strong pretty explosive. Tom has above average grappling so Gane would be hesitant on striking to avoid TD. Tom hits fast and hard. Not as fluid on feet as Gane who has good striking D but if Gane will have to be extra sharp defending strikes or TD. Tom mainly needs to worry about Gane strikes. A Gane jab unlikely to rock Tom who can absorb then go for TD or counter. Plus it is MMA so Gane could land a knee or elbow on a shoot. Favor Tom by a comfy margin.

 

[bartleby929]

volkov just beat gane so aspinal can too obviously

 

[Rampage_Jackson]

It's not just speed. That would be like saying "Wonderboy" Thompson outstrikes people because of speed. Gane has a demonstrated skillset that no one in the HW division has been able to match on the feet. It's so much more than just speed/reflexes.

And Aspinall is winning fights by landing the big shot. He's not picking apart opponents with speed/striking. Blaydes and Pavlovich were both able to land shots on him, so if he has some kind of next-level speed differential, he's not showing that he can use it properly, which would be a negative.

Tom isn't really landing big shots is the scary thing. He's putting guys away with glancing blows for the most part. If he lands flush on someone it may be terrifying.

 

[mkess101]

Tuivasa came into that fight riding a 5 fight KO streak. Gane KOd Tuivasa.

I'm not the one claiming that Gane has this massive speed differential. I'm saying his striking skills are better than anyone else in the division. No cognitive dissonance there.

Pointing out that mediocre strikers were able to touch Aspinall is relevant because that means a comparatively elite striker probably will too.

Difference is Aspinall has never looked phased an iota from getting hit so either A) They aren't landing clean like Gane allowed Tai to do or B) Aspinall has an infinitely better chin than Gane. Pavlovich hits as hard as any HW on earth maybe besides Ngannou so it's definitely not because of WHO the opponents are. Tai's 5 fight KO streak included Harry Hunsucker, Stephan Stuve's ghost, and Greg Hardy. Add in Black Beast who's a glass cannon...yeah.

You're seemingly trying to build Gane into something he's not. He's a very good HW striker and anyone who thinks otherwise is being ridiculous. But the claim that he's better than Aspinall is based on zero evidence of what we've seen. None.

 

[SuperAlly]

"almost" getting starched is kind of like almost getting laid. He didn't, and he won comfortably, by KO.

Gane actually lost to Ngannou, and Jones. That's it.

If you want to line up who each fighter has beaten, and who each fighter has lost to, feel free. I'm kind of surprised you want to go there.

The almost getting starched has greater validity to counter the argument of "being touched". Almost having your lights put out is far worse than merely being touched.

It's disingenuous to argue against in a different context to which it was brought up

 

[Blastbeat]

Purely striking i think Gane is only a little worse than Tom. Gane is smooth and coherent, Tom is kinda twitchy and uneven although he is very accurate.
When it comes to grappling and wrestling though, Tom absolutely has an advantage. And he would use it.
Theyre both pretty quick strikers but i think Tom has the slight speed edge too.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Is he really a better striker tho?

He has more versatility but Aspinall is faster, and has more power...
And Aspinall is a much better grappler for damn sure too

 

[SuperAlly]

Is he really a better striker tho?

He has more versatility but Aspinall is faster, and has more power...
And Aspinall is a much better grappler for damn sure too

A lot of people confused "looks pretty" with effective.

 

[fzoid4454]

The almost getting starched has greater validity to counter the argument of "being touched". Almost having your lights put out is far worse than merely being touched.

It's disingenuous to argue against in a different context to which it was brought up

"touched" is a euphemism. We're not talking about the punches McGregor "hit" Mayweather with.

 

[muaythaibeast]

Tuivasa came into that fight riding a 5 fight KO streak. Gane KOd Tuivasa.

I'm not the one claiming that Gane has this massive speed differential. I'm saying his striking skills are better than anyone else in the division. No cognitive dissonance there.

Pointing out that mediocre strikers were able to touch Aspinall is relevant because that means a comparatively elite striker probably will too.

Of those mediocre strikers, Pavlovich is also a better striker than Gane. He's crazy underrated on here now.

 

[Fight Professor]

volkov just beat gane so aspinal can too obviously

That version of Gane would not be a problem whatsoever but apparently he was injured.

 

[Lepo Lepo]

He should. Fight better get confirmed soon

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Of those mediocre strikers, Pavlovich is also a better striker than Gane. He's crazy underrated on here now.

Pav looked lost against Volkov a guy Gane beat on the feet in their first fight and didn't want to stand with Rozenstruik a guy who Gane beat on the feet. Pav is a 1 dimensional striker who has KO power. You're delusional thinking Pav is a better striker than Gane and Pav is not underrated he's just not over rated anymore.

 

[mangokush]

The Gane who showed up in that Netflix movie would beat Tom, Gane outside of that movie loses to Tom

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Yeah and I am sure NOT paying 80 bucks to watch it..

 

[r-harper-1]

If Tom isn’t allowed to grapple, it might be competitive

 

[fjodor]

Compare their fights with Volkov to understand wich fighter will get smoked on the ground.

 

[muaythaibeast]

Pav looked lost against Volkov a guy Gane beat on the feet in their first fight and didn't want to stand with Rozenstruik a guy who Gane beat on the feet. Pav is a 1 dimensional striker who has KO power. You're delusional thinking Pav is a better striker than Gane and Pav is not underrated he's just not over rated anymore.

Both put on a similar performance against Volkov based on Gane's last fight. The Roizenstruick fight was a bad performance, but followed two bad losses. Prior to that, he was 19-1 on a 5 fight 1st round ko win streak. He's one dimensional, but that one dimension is extremely effective.

 

[SuperAlly]

"touched" is a euphemism. We're not talking about the punches McGregor "hit" Mayweather with.

Reread previous post until you understand

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Both put on a similar performance against Volkov based on Gane's last fight. The Roizenstruick fight was a bad performance, but followed two bad losses. Prior to that, he was 19-1 on a 5 fight 1st round ko win streak. He's one dimensional, but that one dimension is extremely effective.

It's not effective against guys with high striking IQ. Rozen shut down Pavs striking and forced him to wrestle. Volkov shut down Pavs striking and had him looking lost. Tom flat out Koed him by not fighting into his strengths. Literally everyone he finished on that 5 KO streak played into his strengths. Pav wants you to get into a fire fight with him, if he can't bait you into one he doesn't really know what to do.