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Law Coronavirus the US GOV'T Response analysis Thread

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what do you mean best system in the world? that cant even be considered democracy - yes, everyone is given right to vote but candidate with most votes doesnt win.

By design, nimrod. The U.S. is not a democracy, it's a Constitutional Republic. In a democracy, minorities by default have no power and no voice. This is why the U.S. was never designed to be a democracy. We cannot and will not be ruled by the whims of an angry mob.
 
I've been to UK (several of my friends work in Ireland and Great Britain) on several occasions, shitload of my family lives in germany, sweden > I know what rights they have as workers, I know their living conditions and how good their healthcare system is and all of that is miles ahead of US
I've visited Singapore

and me living there or not makes no difference as to whether or not those countries have better living standard than US



I live in EU
yes, USA is run by church since both republicans and democrats are huge conservatives and some of the laws are asinine

I'll let the flies dissect this pile of shit. We were doing ok till this stinker...
 
It goes to show how great safe, boring ole' Social Security is and that we should never privatize it. Just A couple weeks ago I was debating this with @BIKES!

It’s currently 12.4% (split 50/50 employer/employee) up to $135kish.

The sad part is if the same contribution was put in a mutual fund at historic growth rates that 12.4% just after my last 20 years would be worth $700k already and instead of retiring at 52 I need to wait until 62.

point is government sucks at everything and steals from the responsible and hard working citizens.
 
The financial markets will likely recoup a large amount pretty quick once we think we have put the worst behind us. In fact once the market flashes green it will probably be the sharpest increase in history.... But the economy itself will lag way way behind. A global recession is unavoidable.
 
China starts eating bats, spread global disease.

Thanks Trump.

You can’t make this shit up.

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The financial markets will likely recoup a large amount pretty quick once we think we have put the worst behind us. In fact once the market flashes green it will probably be the sharpest increase in history.... But the economy itself will lag way way behind. A global recession is unavoidable.

Don't count on it.

“We’re going to come back. We’re going to turn around, but it is going to be a difficult journey,” El-Erian said on CNBC’s "Squawk Box".

Hell no,” he said about a so-called V-shaped bounce; Wall Street talk for a quick down and up. He said the market chart would look like a “U” or an “L,” suggesting more time spent at the lows before a recovery begins.

“We are going into a global recession. We are going to see a spread of economic sudden stops,” El-Erian said. “The trouble with economic sudden stops is it’s not easy to restart an economy. You’ve got to get people to reengage. You’ve got to coordinate the restart. The economic damage is going to last.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/12/el-...t-from-high-as-world-goes-into-recession.html
 
Well, good thing I don't base my life on someone else's rating system now isn't it?

Who was talking about your life?

The subject was whether or not the american democratic system was the best as you said it was.

I said your assertion was wrong.


Generally this is where you provide an argument/evidence to affirm your assertion.

Instead you've gone on some weird tangent about your life.

Going senile Old Man?
 
Who was talking about your life?

I was.

The subject was whether or not the american democratic system was the best as you said it was.

I said your assertion was wrong.

And you'd be incorrect.

Generally this is where you provide an argument/evidence to affirm your assertion.

Instead you've gone on some weird tangent about your life.

Not really sure how to follow this up.

Nothing weird about it at all. It fucking rules living in the USA and I base that on my own life experiences.

Any more questions or concerns you'd like me to rebuff? :)
 
But hey, at least we've been dismantling the deep state to own the libs.

Oh, and by the way, the amount of money the Fed injected into the Stock Market yesterday to achieve nothing almost covers the total amount of student loan debt in the US.


America Is Broken

What we are seeing right now is the collapse of civic authority and public trust at what is only the beginning of a protracted crisis. In the face of an onrushing pandemic, the United States has exhibited a near-total evacuation of responsibility and political leadership — a sociopathic disinterest in performing the basic function of government, which is to protect its citizens.

Things will get worse from here. According to a survey of epidemiologists released yesterday, the coronavirus outbreak probably won’t peak before May. That doesn’t mean it will be over by May, of course, but that it will be getting worse and worse and worse over the next two months, and for much of that time, presumably, exponentially worse. And so the suspension of the NBA season and Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson’s announcement that they are sick with COVID-19 will seem, in relatively short order, like quite small potatoes. And for all of that time, the country’s response will be commanded and controlled by Donald Trump.

Trump is, of course, the last man in the world you would want in charge right now. In an extremely illuminating interview with Gabriel Debenedetti published this morning, Obama’s Ebola czar Ron Klain described his response to that threat, which he suggested was a relatively good model for how the U.S. might have responded to this one. That response began with 10,000 public-health workers sent to fight and investigate the disease. This administration has sent none, which means it has been, practically speaking, flying blind about the nature of the coronavirus and the challenges it represents to public-health systems. In fact, it’s worse than that; for all intents and purposes, the administration hasn’t been flying at all, spending the last three months sitting by entirely idle and indifferent, rather than scaling up testing regimes, issuing protocols, and preparing for a major surge of patients by developing contingency plans to expand hospital capacity around the country wherever it became needed. If reading about Ron Klain makes you wish he was still in charge, you are surely not alone. But the bigger issue isn’t that he has been replaced by a less competent figure. It’s that Trump had eliminated the office of pandemic response entirely, so that until he appointed Mike Pence — who had bungled Indiana’s response to an HIV crisis a few years ago — no one in the White House even had a pandemic disease portfolio. Why? It is hard to even imagine the reason, aside from the fact that the office was established under Obama and that this president has operated with such reflexive spite and even sadism toward anything his predecessor had touched, whatever the costs to the country—and even his own supporters.

It was just last night, in his disastrous speech, that Trump finally seemed to even take the outbreak seriously, and yet he seemed only capable of conceiving a “response” in terms of border control and tax cuts. This is a particular disease of the president’s, but it is also a representative one: Our leaders have spent so long focused on the value of economic growth they are likely to try to respond to any crisis, even a deeply urgent humanitarian one, as an economic problem to be solved with stimulus. What about hospital beds?


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...VcY7YbcFOZX9fUC1L2pnj8uIKPtkrhKyqER21FzdFw2Tg
 
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It's true, but on the other hand, he has been in rooms with the best fantastic people on this, and they tell him that it's really bad but nothing to worry about.
 
I was.



And you'd be incorrect.



Nothing weird about it at all. It fucking rules living in the USA and I base that on my own life experiences.

So basically the American political system is the best because you live in america and enjoy it?

Any more questions or concerns you'd like me to rebuff? :)

I'm good with ending the conversation here.
 
It's a shame for DJT, this coronavirus isn't his fault, and his economy has been solid.

I would almost say I'd feel badly for him, if it were ANYONE else.
 
Let's for arguments sake assume what this is true.... ITS YEAR FUCKING 4 OF HIS PRESIDENCY

 
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