News *** Conor McGregor Found Civilly Liable for 2018 Sexual Assault MEGA THREAD ***

[Dana's Moonface]

I'm an instructor, kid. Move your anger out of the basement and out to the grass you need to touch.

The absolute irony. You've been larping this whole time with your fantasy bullshit, and being a rape apologist irl is exactly what would get a piece of shit like you stomped or at least shamed like we've been doing. Anyone you try saying that shit to in person who doesn't call you out is a coward, but it figures that'd be the type of people you'd be friends with, if you have any at all

What do you teach brother?

 

[Eater of Souls]

You're right, a gym would have thrown your sorry ass out before you got grouped up on for being pathetic. The person who needs some accountability here is you. I'd say everything I said here to your face, and the sad thing is that Mr "I'd beat everyone in a logic contest" doesn't realize that your inclination to start throwing hands cuz you don't like words not only makes you an emotional illogical sensitive bitch, it still wouldn't prove you right if you COULD bust a grape. I'd not only put your ass in the dirt, but you already put your brain there too. Get outlogicked, son, I win twice.

As for your predictions? Way off as usual. Early 30's, training since I was 12, never imagined I'd be a professional fighter cuz i only wanted to teach arts for self defense, which I've done, including local police, but yeah, i got to you'd position by never sparring hard. So keep projecting. It's really worked for you living vicariously through rapist McGregor so far

That idiot is still going? Damn, just use the ignore function. It is a wonder for making threads readable.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Why are all you guys flexing your ability to fight when it ain't going to happen

I was arguing with a pro fighter on here. A challenge was dropped via pm, after a little back and forth we decided although he might kick my ass, I'm willing to throw down, but it would be better if we met for a drink. I can't remember the poster. He had a nickname, but the verified purple tag. Good dude it turned out

So if any of you fuckers are ever in Ireland and want to fight, or preferably drink, drop me a message and I will oblige

 

[Snoowpy]

You're right, a gym would have thrown your sorry ass out before you got grouped up on for being pathetic. The person who needs some accountability here is you. I'd say everything I said here to your face, and the sad thing is that Mr "I'd beat everyone in a logic contest" doesn't realize that your inclination to start throwing hands cuz you don't like words not only makes you an emotional illogical sensitive bitch, it still wouldn't prove you right if you COULD bust a grape.

As for your predictions? Way off as usual. Early 30's, training since I was 12, never imagined I'd be a professional fighter cuz i only wanted to teach arts for self defense, including local police, but yeah, i got to you'd position by never sparring hard. Keep projecting, ya weird rape wannabe

No the problem is this. You equate being right, to someone you like. And being wrong to someone you don't like.

This means when you see some of your forum buddies in a discussion. Where you do not like rapists(super normal, I think castration is in place). And do not like Mcgregor(He's a prick, imo). And you see this civil trial. Where let's be honest for a second. A trial that's designed to let the party with 51%> chance to win, be announced as a winning party. This doesn't mean someone is guilty. This means someone is likely to be guilty based on a jury's decision that hinges on subpar levels of evidence.

I stated multiple times that the evidence presented may have some flaws. Thus taking into account that he might or might not be guilty warrants a criminal trial imo. The problem with the criminal trial is that it was rejected at first. Why did they reject it? I don't fully know. All I'm saying is that you can't call him a rapist yet. It's important to acknowledge this as even yourself or someone else might be in a situation that has your name that you've spent building(or destroying in Mcgregors case..) gets dragged through the mud.

The problem with you guys is. That you get emotionally charged by someone stating an opinion. If he raped that girl. He should burn. I'm not disagreeing. I think a fair trial should take place a criminal trial where he can't pay a victim off and he also is subject to a stronger legal offence.

My own personal opinion of what happened or how people can react in real life or on drugs. Let's face it. People on drugs can do chaotic things. Both Mcgregor and other women that hang around super celebrities with bucket loads of cash. I believe I am able to question that.

Ask me what I think about Mcgregor. I think it's sad that he's humiliating his wife and the name of his family from a super privileged and self earned position. Ask me about the girl, I do think she has also shown bad class in all of this.

Yet my personal opinion of them doesn't cloud my mind. You are entitled to your opinion. As am I. I think we both agree that if he raped her he should be punished. And if that woman (even if the chance is near 0%) faked it she should be punished too. So what is the problem?

You call someone a rape apologist and even if you don't agree with me that doesn't warrant personal attack. You do it because you do not like me and therefore you think I deserve to be wrong and ridiculed. Just like you think Mcgregor deserves to be ridiculed.

People are people and they can make mistakes. Even if they got it right at the civil trial. They would have made a mistake at throwing out an earlier Criminal case. You are allowed to question things and give your opinion. The system you fully trust in works because people question and hold them to standards. Even if you think someone may be wrong.

I think you're disrespectful, you think. But I harbor no ill will towards your opinion. While you called another guy someone who enables rape. Come on now. You know that wouldn't fly anywhere in the world.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Why are all you guys flexing your ability to fight when it ain't going to happen

I was arguing with a pro fighter on here. A challenge was dropped via pm, after a little back and forth we decided although he might kick my ass, I'm willing to throw down, but it would be better if we met for a drink. I can't remember the poster. He had a nickname, but the verified purple tag. Good dude it turned out

So if any of you fuckers are ever in Ireland and want to fight, or preferably drink, drop me a message and I will oblige

Who would be in Ireland without fighting or drinking?

Me, I heavily preach non violence (Anybody trying to say they teach self defense but doesn't tell you the highest chance to survive is not get into it with people ain't doing the best job of keeping people alive). But I also recognize the difference between social violence and asocial violence, and the only reason I'm responding about violence is because this guy here couldn't help but start chest puffing and threatening people. I'd much rather hammer home the point that starting physicalities is just proof that he can't handle himself in an argument like he kept professing to.

What do you teach brother?

Mixed striking. Officially, it'd be karate since that was my instructors main art, but he was one of those old school shotokan guys who got taken down in a fight and realized there was more shit to learn, so he went and got certified in a bunch of other shit like wing chun to bring in trap boxing, kali/escroma/arnis bring in panantukan, silat, Japanese jiu jitsu, etc. He is a huge advocate of learning everything himself or bringing in someone who can, so we get our BJJ, judo, Russian systems, fencing to help weapon work. Other instructors came in with more western boxing, wing Chun, TKD, and i also came in with a background in TKD, and a bit of boxing and muay thai.

So you can see how it's easier just to say "mixed striking." We can throw belts to children, but adults, it's just defense oriented, or can specifically train people for fight camps, but that was more a while back, not as much now.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

That idiot is still going? Damn, just use the ignore function. It is a wonder for making threads readable.

I've ignored him, I just started opening up his messages once he started doing the whole "meet me in real life" bro shit cuz that is a behavior I believe should be heavily ridiculed

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Who would be in Ireland without fighting or drinking?

Me, I heavily preach non violence (Anybody trying to say they teach self defense but doesn't tell you the highest chance to survive is not get into it with people ain't doing the best job of keeping people alive). But I also recognize the difference between social violence and asocial violence, and the only reason I'm responding about violence is because this guy here couldn't help but start chest puffing and threatening people. I'd much rather hammer home the point that starting physicalities is just proof that he can't handle himself in an argument like he kept professing to.


Mixed striking. Officially, it'd be karate since that was my instructors main art, but he was one of those old school shotokan guys who got taken down in a fight and realized there was more shit to learn, so he went and got certified in a bunch of other shit like wing chun to bring in trap boxing, kali/escroma/arnis bring in panantukan, silat, Japanese jiu jitsu, etc. He is a huge advocate of learning everything himself or bringing in someone who can, so we get our BJJ, judo, Russian systems, fencing to help weapon work. Other instructors came in with more western boxing, wing Chun, TKD, and i also came in with a background in TKD, and a bit of boxing and muay thai.

So you can see how it's easier just to say "mixed striking." We can throw belts to children, but adults, it's just defense oriented, or can specifically train people for fight camps, but that was more a while back, not as much now.

That's awesome man
I started with karate, more freestyle, then moved on to a little boxing and eventually kickboxing. A bad orbital fracture which required surgery put am end to that

Now I grapple, mostly judo
In all sincerity I haven't had a street fight in over 20 years, now aged 40

It's something I did a lot as a kid and think it's idiotic for an adult, unless defense

I'm going to do coaching badges for judo next year. Although I enjoy training and a little competing, i think i may lean more to coaching at this age and being a ref

I like the idea of the mixed striking. Didn't really old school karate have some good throws etc?

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

That's awesome man
I started with karate, more freestyle, then moved on to a little boxing and eventually kickboxing. A bad orbital fracture which required surgery put am end to that

Now I grapple, mostly judo
In all sincerity I haven't had a street fight in over 20 years, now aged 40

It's something I did a lot as a kid and think it's idiotic for an adult, unless defense

I'm going to do coaching badges for judo next year. Although I enjoy training and a little competing, i think i may lean more to coaching at this age and being a ref

I like the idea of the mixed striking. Didn't really old school karate have some good throws etc?

Cool shit. Yeah, I do like just keeping up with anything, cuz as long as you're putting in real effort, you're gonna at least get fitness out of it too, but I also just love to learn and teach. If I'm selfish about anything, it's trying to get anyone around me up to the level of sparring, cuz I love that more than anything and the more, the merrier.

But yeah, no use really in seeking out fights. Skills from being on the debate team probably keep you safer than "how to punch." But I am sorry to hear about the fracture. Sounds like you've ended up with a good mindset though. Being a ref is a great way to give back to the world.

Don't know about old school karate throws. The reason I don't like saying "karate" is cuz I wasn't often doing horse stances in a gi, ya know. We were already learning shit in a mixed system, so when something lie a throw gets taught, you're just kinda like, "I assume this one's technically from judo?" He was never like "This is specifically a hane goshi and this is the harai goshi," it was more "this is a hip toss, and here's the different ways to break the stance depending on the situation." A lot of moves and even arts usually come with the same philosophy, even if specific moves are different

 

[Poirierfan]

Has Collin been vindicated yet? If he hasn't then send him to North Korea to be a tour guide.

 

[Dana's Moonface]

Cool shit. Yeah, I do like just keeping up with anything, cuz as long as you're putting in real effort, you're gonna at least get fitness out of it too, but I also just love to learn and teach. If I'm selfish about anything, it's trying to get anyone around me up to the level of sparring, cuz I love that more than anything and the more, the merrier.

But yeah, no use really seeking out fights really. Skills from being on the debate team so probably keep you safer than "how to punch." But I am sorry to hear about the fracture. Sounds like you've ended up with a good mindset though. Being a ref is a great way to give back to the world.

Don't know about old school karate throws. The reason I don't like saying "karate" is cuz I wasn't often doing horse stances in a gi, ya know. We were already learning shit in a mixed system, so when something gets taught, you're just kinda like, "I assume this one's technically from judo?" He was never like "This is specifically a hane goshi and this is the harai goshi," it was more "this is a hip toss, and here's the different ways to break the stance depending on the situation"

Excuse my ignorance but your teacher appears to have a similar philosophy to Bruce Lee
I love the idea of a mixed system, use what works and remove what doesn't for a self defence aspect

I enjoy grappling now, it's still kind of new to me, but striking is always number 1. I loved karate as a kid. People shit over it, but I had great timing and some good Footwork which carried over to boxing/kickboxing

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Excuse my ignorance but your teacher appears to have a similar philosophy to Bruce Lee
I love the idea of a mixed system, use what works and remove what doesn't for a self defence aspect

I enjoy grappling now, it's still kind of new to me, but striking is always number 1. I loved karate as a kid. People shit over it, but I had great timing and some good Footwork which carried over to boxing/kickboxing

He was very big on Bruce, you're right. I remember him stripping away a lot of the JJJ stuff and categorizing some move as "high percentage" vs "low percentage." But it's also just the right way to teach. He's a stocky guy and adapted his learning to fit him, but I was lanky and shit at wrestling, so of course he's gonna be pulling more darce chokes while I'm throwing up more triangles, even though we're using the same system. Gotta cater the moves to their individual efficacy for you. So ya just gotta learn everything and then test it under fire

I was always a striker at heart and that'll never go away, but I was surprised how easily you can fall in love with the BJJ learning curve, and leading someone perfectly into executing a good judo throw on them feels so much more like rewarded learning than any spinning backfist or something.

Karate gets shit cuz it was the most popular thing for a long time, and anything popular is gonna get overprojected and eventually diluted, so of course there were just random pop-up schools everywhere to just give out belts for money and people don't like to be bullshitted

Edit* to SOMEWHAT bring this back to topic, I think it's a good thing to learn this shit and it's applications cuz you don't want to live vicariously through fighters. Anyone catch that recent article on the guy on Ireland who assaulted someone and accidentally killed him, and said he wanted to be like Conor? Crazy shit

 

[Ares Black]

I've ignored him, I just started opening up his messages once he started doing the whole "meet me in real life" bro shit cuz that is a behavior I believe should be heavily ridiculed

It's absurd, but also entirely in character

 

[Ares Black]

So if any of you fuckers are ever in Ireland and want to fight, or preferably drink, drop me a message and I will oblige

Same goes for me, except substitute Canada for Ireland.

Well, Eastern Canada. Ok maybe more like Eastern Ontario. Canada is a big fucking place.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Why are all you guys flexing your ability to fight when it ain't going to happen

I was arguing with a pro fighter on here. A challenge was dropped via pm, after a little back and forth we decided although he might kick my ass, I'm willing to throw down, but it would be better if we met for a drink. I can't remember the poster. He had a nickname, but the verified purple tag. Good dude it turned out

So if any of you fuckers are ever in Ireland and want to fight, or preferably drink, drop me a message and I will oblige

And he drank you under the table and you live in shame ever since.

 

[Chaotic Progressor]

Thanks for sharing actual news and updates on this. Lots to digest there. I'll give cliffs and bold the stuff that stood out to me:

• Conor is ordered to pay Nikita hand's legal costs
• Judge said it was a “most singular and peculiar” case. He told the court that the story put forward by both defendants ran in “lock step” with each other
• The costs are estimated at 1.25 million
• The judge said Lawrence was successful in his defense against Nikita hand's claims, but not for the reasons that Lawrence advanced in his defense.
• The case against Lawrence failed because they concluded that James Lawrence did not have sex at all with nikita hand, and that's why although he technically successfully defended against Nikita hand's claims, she will not be obliged to pay his legal costs.
• They will discuss on another day about Conor's irresponsible twitter posts.
• The judge said he asked the jury to be moderate, and the fact that they didn't award aggravated or exemplary damages to Nikita hand does NOT cast doubt on their findings (that conor raped her).

Yep and he didn't have sex with Nikita. It's not possible for his DNA to not be there. He's there BC Conor threw his name in the ring/under the bus when he saw the injuries in the police interview.

To try and shift blame and put another name in the mix, and embroil him in it with him.

Total fkn scumbag move. That's why James is there, why he's defending Conor and sticking to the story and why Conor is paying his fkn fees.

And that's the only way it makes sense he would be saying he did have sex with her. To back Connor's story, probably driven by fear too, of the gangster connected bully.

Like two fkn schoolboys.

Conor probably put it to him like back me up or you're fucked BC we're in this together now, probably told James police brought his name up or something. When in reality he did. Total snake, and the behaviour of a guilty man.

 

[MarioLemieux]

Yep and he didn't have sex with Nikita. It's not possible for his DNA to not be there. He's there BC Conor threw his name in the ring/under the bus when he saw the injuries in the police interview.

To try and shift blame and put another name in the mix, and embroil him in it with him.

Total fkn scumbag move. That's why James is there, why he's defending Conor and sticking to the story and why Conor is paying his fkn fees.

And that's the only way it makes sense he would be saying he did have sex with her. To back Connor's story, probably driven by fear too, of the gangster connected bully.

Like two fkn schoolboys.

Conor probably put it to him like back me up or you're fucked BC we're in this together now, probably told James police brought his name up or something. When in reality he did. Total snake, and the behaviour of a guilty man.

The Irish judge saw things this way and stated that Conor and Lawrence were in cahoots with their lies and made Conor pay for everyone's legal fees.

Conor is proper fooked. Public sentinment against him in Ireland has turned violent. He has zero chance of winning an appeal and very little chance of winning any of the other pending trials against him. Ireland has had enough.

 

[Koala]

Damn 1 million in lawyer costs
How much did Conor pay for his costs and the other guy in the case?

 

[fortheo]

Damn 1 million in lawyer costs
How much did Conor pay for his costs and the other guy in the case?

Not sure, but Conor's lawyer is one of the most renown layers in ireland, so it was probably a good chunk of change

 

[pātrēärkē]

All the fucking rape apologists who sat here talking about her "fucking around with everyone" and "false accusations" against Lawrence gotta eat their shitty words and only can fall back to "Well, it's still not a criminal charge"

There was no conviction of rape, criminal or civil. And Lawrence was found not guilty of anything.

I understand in this day of #metoo that a woman's accountability is a patriarchal construct, and someone like McGregor isn't going to garner any sympathy, but you're conflating facts.

First off, to be clear: this was not a criminal case. While Gardai and the Director of Public Prosecutions did a full investigation into the December 2018 incident after it occurred, they determined there was insufficient evidence to secure a conviction in criminal court. That led Hand to seek recourse in civil court, where a two week trial ended with McGregor being found liable.

Hand was seeking damages – general, special, aggravated, and punitive – for the incident and her inability to work due to mental health reasons, according to court documents. In the statement of claim reported by The New York Times in 2021, Hand sought damages of $1.79-$2.13 million for the same.

They actually only decided to award her damages in relation to two of those four categories: general and special,” Greaney said. “There was no compensation given for aggravated or punitive. We don’t know the reasoning behind that. We know the figure. We know that for things like medical bills, loss of earnings, you know, psychiatrist bills, and and things like that, she was awarded just under a quarter of a million euros.

“They would also have had the option to award her damages to punish Mr. McGregor for what he did, to send out a message that this type of behavior isn’t acceptable in this society. Particularly when it comes to rape, the judge told them that they’re entitled to make that conclusion. But for whatever reason — again, we don’t know why — they didn’t award damages in those particular categories.

The jury ruled against Hand in a case she brought against one of McGregor’s friends, James Lawrence, whom she accused of having sex with her in the hotel without consent.

 

[fortheo]

There was no conviction of rape, criminal or civil. And Lawrence was found not guilty of anything.

I understand in this day of #metoo that a woman's accountability is a patriarchal construct, and someone like McGregor isn't going to garner any sympathy, but you're conflating facts.

Civil court found that Conor raped her. He, like you, argued that he didn't rape her. He, like you, lost the argument. Now he is paying damages for having raped her, and he is paying her legal fees for having raped her.