Comparing GSP and Usman's welterweight win streaks.

[Rajon Rondo]

That version of Hendricks lost to Lawler and split decisioned Koscheck. Woodley sent them both to shadow realm. Colby and Burns obliterated Woodley. Colby also completely outclassed Lawler.
Colby has the wrestling credentials as Hendricks and much better pressure and cardio. Burns has much better BJJ than Hendricks. Nothing really suggests Hendricks would beat any of them except your nostalgia

That version of Hendricks lost to Lawler and split decisioned Koscheck. Woodley sent them both to shadow realm. Colby and Burns obliterated Woodley. Colby also completely outclassed Lawler.
Colby has the wrestling credentials as Hendricks and much better pressure and cardio. Burns has much better BJJ than Hendricks. Nothing really suggests Hendricks would beat any of them except your nostalgia

Nice MMAMath. Hendricks was the Chimaev back in 2013

 

[GOATtalks]

And nothing really suggests Burns and Colby beats Hendricks with MMAMath

It’s not MMAmath. It’s a comparison of how they dealt with common opponents and similar level opponents. And I specifically mentioned areas in which that are better than Hendricks and why would they most likely win. You haven’t presented any argument whatsoever

 

[KeyboardFighter]

The fact that Dan hardy was even ranked in the top 5 prove how much better welterweight have become.

And lol at serra ranked #1 at one point.

Dude you have a 36 year old journyman in masvidal in the top 5 that I would say is comparable to Hardy. Both are good strikers with meh wrestling.

 

[Mga223]

The fact that Dan hardy was even ranked in the top 5 prove how much better welterweight have become.

And lol at serra ranked #1 at one point.

Exactly this.

Holy shit was WW always that weak?

 

[Rajon Rondo]

It’s not MMAmath. It’s a comparison of how they dealt with common opponents and similar level opponents. And I specifically mentioned areas in which that are better than Hendricks and why would they most likely win. You haven’t presented any argument whatsoever

Ur opinion is so dumb start a thread saying burns and colby beat GSP

 

[Kjeewb]

Too many shertards try and say GSP didn’t fight the best

 

[GOATtalks]

What good is Burns bjj and Colbys pressure if Hendricks KOs them both? Plus compare the punching power of Colby and hendricks for me please

So you’re basically saying he has a punchers chance? That’s probably the worst type of bet. And stop acting like Hendricks is some kind of Ngannou who KO’s everyone. Most of his wins are decisions.

Hendricks doesn’t hit harder than Lawler or Woodley. Colby messed them up real good.

Burns has quicker hands than Hendricks and KO power as well. In a fire fight between those two it’s hard to tell who would win. Burns has other way to win though, Hendricks doesn’t

 

[ShreddinMMA]

The fact that Dan hardy was even ranked in the top 5 prove how much better welterweight have become.

And lol at serra ranked #1 at one point.

Are you a noob?

The only reason Hardy even sniffed the title was because GSP literally had destroyed the rest of the division.

But, you'd actually know that if you'd been watching for more than 5 years.

 

[ejazahmednit]

He didn’t.

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And Colby would not slow down, like Hendricks did

He took Hendricks down more times than Hendricks did him
The control time comes from round 4 which came from a clever trip by Hendricks, it wasn't wrestling per se
I do agree Colby wouldn't slow down but he doesn't have the intangible KO power that Hendricks had

 

[sampuncher]

Why are people shocked Hardy was ranked 5th?

Did people forget he fought for a title? How low did you think he was ranked getting that title shot?

People have also forgot the UFC rank guys wherever they choose for promotional purposes aswell.

 

[Mike]

The way you guys try to make Masvidal of all people an ATG at ww just to shit on gsp

 

[Mike]

Why are people shocked Hardy was ranked 5th?

Did people forget he fought for a title? How low did you think he was ranked getting that title shot?

People have also forgot the UFC rank guys wherever they choose for promotional purposes aswell.

They either weren't watching or ignore the circumstances at the time. Everyone else had lost to gsp or another contender, Hardy was on a good streak with a win over a top ten guy. Silva has like.... three defenses like this.

 

[Kaynan]

You can't use rankings to compare fighters. You have to compare the names specifically. Rankings are situational and made up

 

[GOATtalks]

Ur opinion is so dumb start a thread saying burns and colby beat GSP

He took Hendricks down more times than Hendricks did him
The control time comes from round 4 which came from a clever trip by Hendricks, it wasn't wrestling per se
I do agree Colby wouldn't slow down but he doesn't have the intangible KO power that Hendricks had

Well GSP didn’t outwrestle him for sure. He could not use his usual lay’n’pray style on him and had a mostly stand up battle.
GSP only clearly won rounds 3 and 5, mostly due to Hendricks slowing down. Colby would turn up the volume at that point and I doubt GSP would have the cardio to push him off. GSP might be a bit better technically in the stand up, but it wouldn’t matter much in 5 round fight. My bet would 48-47 decision for Colby, purely on pressure and cardio

 

[Rajon Rondo]

Well GSP didn’t outwrestle him for sure. He could not use his usual lay’n’pray style on him and had a mostly stand up battle.
GSP only clearly won rounds 3 and 5, mostly due to Hendricks slowing down. Colby would turn up the volume at that point and I doubt GSP would have the cardio to push him off. GSP might be a bit better technically in the stand up, but it wouldn’t matter much in 5 round fight. My bet would 48-47 decision for Colby, purely on pressure and cardio

Also I forgot Hendricks was on steroids so kinda hard to mimic him under USADA

 

[ejazahmednit]

Well GSP didn’t outwrestle him for sure. He could not use his usual lay’n’pray style on him and had a mostly stand up battle.
GSP only clearly won rounds 3 and 5, mostly due to Hendricks slowing down. Colby would turn up the volume at that point and I doubt GSP would have the cardio to push him off. GSP might be a bit better technically in the stand up, but it wouldn’t matter much in 5 round fight. My bet would 48-47 decision for Colby, purely on pressure and cardio

your own stats prove GSP landed more takedowns and controlled Hendricks.
Also when you say GSP uses lay and pray and that he is "a bit better" technically compared to Colby in striking, you opinion becomes biased. When has GSP faded? And what tells you that Colby is a better wrestler compared to Hendricks or Koscheck

 

[r-harper-1]

It’s not MMAmath. It’s a comparison of how they dealt with common opponents and similar level opponents. And I specifically mentioned areas in which that are better than Hendricks and why would they most likely win. You haven’t presented any argument whatsoever

When roided Hendricks touched people with his hands they went down like they were shot ....That’s my argument

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Usman is beating much harder competition.

Yes young evolved new generation talents like....Jorge Masvidal, a guy that was losing to Paul Daley in Shark Fights during GSPs reign.

 

[GOATtalks]

your own stats prove GSP landed more takedowns and controlled Hendricks.
Also when you say GSP uses lay and pray and that he is "a bit better" technically compared to Colby in striking, you opinion becomes biased. When has GSP faded? And what tells you that Colby is a better wrestler compared to Hendricks or Koscheck

GSP landed 3 TDs, Hendricks landed 2, but had twice as much control time. If anything, the stats show that Hendricks outwrestled GSP.
GSP got murked on the feet by journey man Matt Serra. He didn’t even look great standing against likes of Fitch and Shields. GSP striking doesn’t work without the TD threat. He doesn’t have KO power as well. He only has a jab and decent kicks. Colby ain’t no Askren or Maia on the feet. He has more tools standing than GSP and insane volume. Honestly, I’m not sure GSP is even better on the feet. His jab is technical though.
Colby is definitely at least on the same level as Kos and Hendricks in wrestling. He’s a D1 champion and he’s wrestling has been highly effective in MMA. Shutting down Maia and manhandling Woodley says a lot.
GSP never looked as fresh as Colby does in championship rounds and he fights at a 2 times slower pace than Colby. It’s clear that Colby would have a cardio advantage, like he has over everyone.

 

[GOATtalks]

When roided Hendricks touched people with his hands they went down like they were shot ....That’s my argument

Except he didn’t. Even if we look at pre USADA Hendricks only 40% of his fights ended by him winning by KO and that only worked against mid level competition and bad strikers like Fitch. He didn’t KO anyone in his 3 title fights and he didn’t KO Condit, Koscheck, Story, Grant etc. So you’re saying he would have a punchers chance, which I can’t deny