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China COVID Cover-Up Megathread

WPEM said:
The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2

Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
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Published: 17 March 2020
^ not sure why we would take that as Word of God

Top U.S. Official: ‘Growing Body Of Evidence’ Coronavirus Leaked Out Of Chinese Lab
Says coronavirus likely escaped through a “leak or an accident”

A top U.S. official reportedly told politicians from around the world last week that a “growing body of evidence” points to a Chinese lab as being the point of origin for the coronavirus pandemic.

“Matthew Pottinger, who is President Donald Trump’s respected Deputy National Security Adviser, told politicians from around the world that even China’s leaders now openly admit their previous claims that the virus originated in a Wuhan market are false,” The Daily Mail reported. “The comments, which were made during a Zoom conference with MPs on China last week, come as a team of experts from the World Health Organization prepare to fly to Wuhan to investigate how the pandemic began.”

The Mail reported that Pottinger pointed to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is only several miles away from the wet market in Wuhan, saying, “There is a growing body of evidence that the lab is likely the most credible source of the virus.”

Pottinger is a former officer in the U.S. Marines, is fluent in Mandarin, and is a former journalist for Reuters and The Wall Street Journal.

Pottinger reportedly noted that officials believe that the coronavirus escaped through a “leak or an accident,” adding, “even establishment figures in Beijing have openly dismissed the wet market story.”

Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory Party leader who attended the meeting, said the remarks showed that the United States was “stiffening” its position on the coronavirus pandemic originating in a lab accident.

“I was told the US have an ex-scientist from the laboratory in America at the moment,” Smith said. “That was what I heard a few weeks ago. I was led to believe this is how they have been able to stiffen up their position on how this outbreak originated.”

“The truth is there are people who have been in those labs who maintain that this is the case,” Smith continued. “We don’t know what they have been doing in that laboratory. They may well have been fiddling with bat coronaviruses and looking at them and they made a mistake. I’ve spoken to various people who believe that to be the case.”

The Mail also highlighted the reaction of Sam Armstrong, communications director at the Henry Jackson Society foreign policy think-tank. “With such a senior and respected intelligence official speaking in support of this claim, the time has come for the British Government to seek both answers about and compensation for Covid-19,” Armstrong said.

Some scientists have pushed back on the theory that the coronavirus leaked in a lab accident. Wuhan Institute of Virology Vice Director Yuan Zhiming told NBC News in August that scientists at the facility first received samples of the virus after it had already begun to spread. “I have repeatedly emphasized that it was on Dec. 30 that we got contact with the samples of SARS-like pneumonia or pneumonia of unknown cause sent from the hospital,” said Yuan. “We have not encountered the novel coronavirus before that, and without this virus, there is no way that it is leaked from the lab.”

Meanwhile, China has openly said for many months that the coronavirus probably did not come from the wet market.

Top U.S. officials and “most of the 17 intelligence agencies” have reportedly thought that the coronavirus pandemic started with a Chinese lab, but believe that it was an accident.

“Late last year, foreign journalists were barred from visiting an abandoned copper mine in the southwest of the country, where the closest known relative of Sars-Cov-2 was discovered in 2013 by Chinese virologists and taken back to the Wuhan laboratory. A bat research team had samples taken on a recent visit to the mine confiscated,” The Sunday Times reported. “Dr. Shi [Zhengli, a virologist at the institute and known as the ‘bat woman’ for her work related to coronaviruses] discovered RaTG13 in the mine after six workers in Tongguan died from an unknown illness in 2012. She took the viral samples back to Wuhan for further analysis.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-...vidence-coronavirus-leaked-out-of-chinese-lab
 
Hmmm let’s see the virus originated from the 2nd most influential country in the world. They knew the virus was spreading yet allowed international travel during the busiest period of Chinese travel.

Had all the preparations and draconian quarantine measures to stop the spread in their own country.

The countries that have the most deaths and cases are their rivals including United States, UK, and India. Anybody with a brain can see the motives and what China had to gain by bioengineering Covid.

In ancient times before gunpowder Chinese army would launch barrels of feces mixed with highly noxious chemicals against the Mongols. They kinda have a history of this kinda stuff.
 
Rocco Siffredi said:
Published: 17 March 2020
^ not sure why we would take that as Word of God

Top U.S. Official: ‘Growing Body Of Evidence’ Coronavirus Leaked Out Of Chinese Lab
Says coronavirus likely escaped through a “leak or an accident”

A top U.S. official reportedly told politicians from around the world last week that a “growing body of evidence” points to a Chinese lab as being the point of origin for the coronavirus pandemic.

“Matthew Pottinger, who is President Donald Trump’s respected Deputy National Security Adviser, told politicians from around the world that even China’s leaders now openly admit their previous claims that the virus originated in a Wuhan market are false,” The Daily Mail reported. “The comments, which were made during a Zoom conference with MPs on China last week, come as a team of experts from the World Health Organization prepare to fly to Wuhan to investigate how the pandemic began.”

The Mail reported that Pottinger pointed to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, which is only several miles away from the wet market in Wuhan, saying, “There is a growing body of evidence that the lab is likely the most credible source of the virus.”

Pottinger is a former officer in the U.S. Marines, is fluent in Mandarin, and is a former journalist for Reuters and The Wall Street Journal.

Pottinger reportedly noted that officials believe that the coronavirus escaped through a “leak or an accident,” adding, “even establishment figures in Beijing have openly dismissed the wet market story.”

Iain Duncan Smith, the former Tory Party leader who attended the meeting, said the remarks showed that the United States was “stiffening” its position on the coronavirus pandemic originating in a lab accident.

“I was told the US have an ex-scientist from the laboratory in America at the moment,” Smith said. “That was what I heard a few weeks ago. I was led to believe this is how they have been able to stiffen up their position on how this outbreak originated.”

“The truth is there are people who have been in those labs who maintain that this is the case,” Smith continued. “We don’t know what they have been doing in that laboratory. They may well have been fiddling with bat coronaviruses and looking at them and they made a mistake. I’ve spoken to various people who believe that to be the case.”

The Mail also highlighted the reaction of Sam Armstrong, communications director at the Henry Jackson Society foreign policy think-tank. “With such a senior and respected intelligence official speaking in support of this claim, the time has come for the British Government to seek both answers about and compensation for Covid-19,” Armstrong said.

Some scientists have pushed back on the theory that the coronavirus leaked in a lab accident. Wuhan Institute of Virology Vice Director Yuan Zhiming told NBC News in August that scientists at the facility first received samples of the virus after it had already begun to spread. “I have repeatedly emphasized that it was on Dec. 30 that we got contact with the samples of SARS-like pneumonia or pneumonia of unknown cause sent from the hospital,” said Yuan. “We have not encountered the novel coronavirus before that, and without this virus, there is no way that it is leaked from the lab.”

Meanwhile, China has openly said for many months that the coronavirus probably did not come from the wet market.

Top U.S. officials and “most of the 17 intelligence agencies” have reportedly thought that the coronavirus pandemic started with a Chinese lab, but believe that it was an accident.

“Late last year, foreign journalists were barred from visiting an abandoned copper mine in the southwest of the country, where the closest known relative of Sars-Cov-2 was discovered in 2013 by Chinese virologists and taken back to the Wuhan laboratory. A bat research team had samples taken on a recent visit to the mine confiscated,” The Sunday Times reported. “Dr. Shi [Zhengli, a virologist at the institute and known as the ‘bat woman’ for her work related to coronaviruses] discovered RaTG13 in the mine after six workers in Tongguan died from an unknown illness in 2012. She took the viral samples back to Wuhan for further analysis.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/top-...vidence-coronavirus-leaked-out-of-chinese-lab
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Nothing here refutes what I posted.
 
Its frustrating to see this and it doesnt give much hope for future cooperation if/when another pandemic situation arises. To be honest, im not sure what the travelling party will really accomplish at this point anyway. I believe that the the focus should be on looking at the causes of human-wild animal interactions (especially the ones that harbour viruses that could jump species) and addressing these; trying to figure out the exact route from bat to human for sars-cov-2 could take decades, if at all possible.
 
The Audience said:
Its frustrating to see this and it doesnt give much hope for future cooperation if/when another pandemic situation arises. To be honest, im not sure what the travelling party will really accomplish at this point anyway. I believe that the the focus should be on looking at the causes of human-wild animal interactions (especially the ones that harbour viruses that could jump species) and addressing these; trying to figure out the exact route from bat to human for sars-cov-2 could take decades, if at all possible.
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Yes international cooperation is really important, if I am not mistaken even during the Cold War the USSR via the UN have cooperated with Western Countries to combat Polio and Small Pocks.
 
WPEM said:
The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2

Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9
Click to expand...
Still could've been studying the virus and had an accidental leak due to poor procedures. That's very likely what happened. Regardless, this clearly shows China will never be a responsible world player. Reminds me when those idiots blew up a satellite and created an enormous amount of space debris.
 
D3THRONED said:
Still could've been studying the virus and had an accidental leak due to poor procedures. That's very likely what happened. Regardless, this clearly shows China will never be a responsible world player.
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It could have but it almost certainly wasn’t an engineered virus though.
 
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HockeyBjj said:
According to just the extra body bags ordered, cremation hours worked, and urns, they had about 7 thousands excess (covid) deaths by February 12th

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ne...ppression-of-true-COVID-19-data-in-China.aspx
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Yes I recall that but I mean by now I wonder.

If the US has almost 400,000 DEAD, I would figure China is easily over 1 million and likely approaching 2,000,000 and maybe has more than that.

I like writing out the numbers in this thread. I just wish there was a way for us to find out. Corona kills those with more preexisting conditions and obesity and diabetes makes it worse and China has less fat people however they still have a lot of old people and people with other health issues. So I can only wonder their true numbers.
 
Oceanmachine said:
Yes I recall that but I mean by now I wonder.

If the US has almost 400,000 DEAD, I would figure China is easily over 1 million and likely approaching 2,000,000 and maybe has more than that.

I like writing out the numbers in this thread. I just wish there was a way for us to find out. Corona kills those with more preexisting conditions and obesity and diabetes makes it worse and China has less fat people however they still have a lot of old people and people with other health issues. So I can only wonder their true numbers.
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Well they had a serious lockdown which would shut down the spread pretty fast. You arent getting covid if you are being shot for going outside.

That said, we will never know the real numbers. I know someone in Guangzhou who said things never got bad in that city, but who knows with the rest of the country.
 
Day Drinking said:
Well they had a serious lockdown which would shut down the spread pretty fast. You arent getting covid if you are being shot for going outside.

That said, we will never know the real numbers. I know someone in Guangzhou who said things never got bad in that city, but who knows with the rest of the country.
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But corona just doesnt go away because everyone is locked up for 1 month or so
 
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