Elections Canadian Federal Election 2019 Thread

So are we assuming the hit the Liberals have taken this year is all a response to SNC-Lavalin?

2019 has been a bad year for Team Red yet no one I know is informed about or cares at all about that controversy.
 
Tycho Brah said:
So are we assuming the hit the Liberals have taken this year is all a response to SNC-Lavalin?

2019 has been a bad year for Team Red yet no one I know is informed about or cares at all about that controversy.
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They seemed to recover from that as a party -- at least closed the gap significantly. Trudeau ratings are very low but it's like the US were the global economy is so good that people are not really super motivated for a change, but could do it just because trump and trudy are so disliked

Really interested to see what happens to the liberals in Quebec and BC - could see them winning less than 20 seats in both provinces but rebounding huge in Ontario.
 
Fuck I hope Canada does the right thing and bounces that virtue signalling fucker off the Earth.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
They seemed to recover from that as a party -- at least closed the gap significantly. Trudeau ratings are very low but it's like the US were the global economy is so good that people are not really super motivated for a change, but could do it just because trump and trudy are so disliked

Really interested to see what happens to the liberals in Quebec and BC - could see them winning less than 20 seats in both provinces but rebounding huge in Ontario.
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Any idea what happened in late summer/fall 2016 to precipitate the massive drop for the Liberals that's continued since? (Sorry I'm just getting caught up.)

In terms of headlines from then I see an announcement not to overturn FPTP, and pipeline stuff, but I still feel like I'm missing something.
 
Ki
Tycho Brah said:
Any idea what happened in late summer/fall 2016 to precipitate the massive drop for the Liberals that's continued since? (Sorry I'm just getting caught up.)

In terms of headlines from then I see an announcement not to overturn FPTP, and pipeline stuff, but I still feel like I'm missing something.
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Well Alberta and BC dislike him over the oil "wars". The left dislike him due to not being Liberal enough on issues, the center doesn't like him over international business standing and the right never liked him. SNC didn't help him with women and I think everyone cringed over his selfies and photo opps (india)

Its just a lot of little things that put off someone from every affiliation
 
HockeyBjj said:
Can someone give an American a 2 sentence summary of the Canadian parties and their accronyms so that I can try to follow along?
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For further context to @Prokofievian's post below by putting them on the Right V Left amongst the major US parties. And yes all major Canadian parties are to the left politically of both US major parties.


NDP...... Liberal. Conservative Party.... Democratic Party............. Republican party

(I only put in the 3 major Canadian parties as they are the only to ever get seats)


Prokofievian said:
Liberal Party of Canada - Center Left corporate cock suckers dabbling in identity politics. THEY'LL TEYK YER GUNZ!
Conservative Party of Canada - Center Right corporate cock suckers who probably wont take your guns.
People's Party of Canada - Retard level libertarian fever dream party. DURR WE NEED A FLAT TAX DURR.
Green Party - The environment is the only important issue at all.
NDP - Irrelevant leftist party with no concrete policy proposals. They are a critic party, always have been, and will be for the foreseeable future.

Here's a coles notes version of every policy imaginable.

https://www.macleans.ca/politics/20...here-the-parties-stand-on-everything/#defence

A lot of ''no concrete proposals.'' It was published on April 30th, but fucking still.
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We do need a flat tax with an exemption at the lower end earners. But the richest would never want that. No games to play to get around paying taxes.
 
Tycho Brah said:
So are we assuming the hit the Liberals have taken this year is all a response to SNC-Lavalin?

2019 has been a bad year for Team Red yet no one I know is informed about or cares at all about that controversy.
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That’s because it was a manufactured controversy:

- Paying bribes in 3rd world countries is par for the course
- the attorney general isn’t some absolutely independent entity and it’s not inappropriate for a majority government to be in contact with the AG over issues that have significant impact on Canada or a specific region (Quebec in this case)
- JWR is the least qualified person to ever hold the post of AG and used her post shamelessly to advance her own indigenous agenda (we’ll be dealing with that for years to come); she’s also responsible for our insane new impaired driving laws

The real scandal here was how a person like JWR was allowed to hold such a high level position in the first place (her experience prior to holding that post was being an activist). There’s plenty that went wrong during Trudeau’s tenure, but SNC should never have gotten the attention it did.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
They seemed to recover from that as a party -- at least closed the gap significantly. Trudeau ratings are very low but it's like the US were the global economy is so good that people are not really super motivated for a change, but could do it just because trump and trudy are so disliked

Really interested to see what happens to the liberals in Quebec and BC - could see them winning less than 20 seats in both provinces but rebounding huge in Ontario.
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Ontario is going Con.

Liberals didnt close any gap, that's fabricated advocacy data to swing the election.

Trudeau is wildly unpopular.
 
Grenz said:
That’s because it was a manufactured controversy.
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I think it's because what was actually controversial about it (if anything) went over most people's heads.

Two girls I was talking to last weekend referred to is as "the thing about Justin Trudeau firing women" lol.
 
Tycho Brah said:
I think it's because what was actually controversial about it (if anything) went over most people's heads.

Two girls I was talking to last weekend referred to is as "the thing about Justin Trudeau firing women" lol.
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Funny, but that is actually the scandal, at least the conclusion of it. Trudeau's cabinet has been staffed as much according to hyper progressive guidelines as on merit. Call it 50/50 which would mean half the ministers are there because they fit the desired identity profile, but don't necessarily have the most acumen. That's how you end up with JWR as your AG, who pulls a Leeroy Jenkins pretty much her entire time on the job, and at the end has a massive freakout because there have been some tough conversations at work. She goes public, inadvertently admitting she's under the impression that she can act pretty much unilaterally in her appointed (as opposed to elected) role as AG, the Conservatives jump on it, and now of course Trudeau has no choice but to fire her.

All we've seen here is the ending to what is probably the biggest shitshow of an AG stint in recent Canadian history.
 
jlagman said:
He's probably alluding to anti-carbon tax stickers at gas pumps, or some silly shit like that.
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Sounds dubious. You canadians already get taxed too high. Turdo is farther to the left than his party. Vote Andy and fox your boarder, taxes, etc.. China contributes the most global emissions on the planet. Till china fixes it Canada is wasting their time on that. Canada is nothing compared to china on emissions. NOTHING.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
Ki


Well Alberta and BC dislike him over the oil "wars". The left dislike him due to not being Liberal enough on issues, the center doesn't like him over international business standing and the right never liked him. SNC didn't help him with women and I think everyone cringed over his selfies and photo opps (india)

Its just a lot of little things that put off someone from every affiliation
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I honestly think that disasterous ad by Harper's campaign did about half Trudeau's work for him.

 
Devout Pessimist said:
I'm really tempted to vote for Bernier. I passionately hate Trudeau (I hate Butts even more) and the clowns who make up the liberal cabinet. Scheer is useless, but might have a chance of beating Trudeau simply because he will get the anti-Trudeau vote. Bernier speaks his mind and does not give a shit about pleasing the whiny leftists and the left-leaning media. My mind says vote for Scheer just to get Trudeau out of there, but my heart says Bernier.

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A vote for Bernier is a vote for Trudeau.
 
CauseImbetta said:
What damage is thst?
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Aside from giving all his friends cushy jobs..

  1. Killed Cap & Trade resulting in $3-$4B in lost revenue (not including lawsuits).
  2. Fired Privatization Officer
  3. Fired Chief scientist
  4. Fired Investment Officer
  5. Refused assistance to asylum seekers
  6. Killed legislation to reduce scalping prices
  7. Killed Bill 175 updating the police service act (police oversight legislation)
  8. Delayed Immunization reporting rules
  9. Ends electric & hydrogen vehicle incentive program
  10. Cut the budget for school repairs
  11. Cut 700+ green projects ($100M to shut down 1 wind farm alone)
  12. Rolled sex ed back to 1998
  13. Cancelled TRC school curriculum after it had already been researched, paid for and was ready to put in place.
  14. Cuts Toronto City council in half.
  15. Cut promised 3% increase for OW & ODSP & will change definition of disability, leading to further poverty.
  16. Basic Income pilot project stopped
  17. Considers no more minimum wage increase (considering rolling back implemented wage increase in 2020)
  18. Reduced Pharmacare availability
  19. Cuts funding for guide dogs for visually impaired
  20. Cuts advanced age allowance for elderly
  21. Common law changes deleted
  22. Cuts to funds to repair social housing
  23. Cancellation of opening new overdose prevention sites
  24. Buck a beer at taxpayer expense.
  25. Launches “Ontario News Now”, a third world style propaganda news site payed for by taxpayers.
  26. Reneges on $500,000 for after school music program for kids at risk
  27. Muzzles civil servants from using words “climate change” in any social media release
  28. Removal of For Profit Maximum Threshold - big box day care coming
  29. Fired Howard Sapers - Correctional Reform
  30. Fired Frank Iacobucci re: ring of fire consultations
  31. Dismissed - high speed board
  32. Sued by and lost to Tesla
  33. Sued by teachers re: Sex ed
  34. Sued by City of Toronto re: Bill 5 / 31
  35. Streamlining rules to allow for faster passage of Bills (less debated etc.)
  36. Governance deficiency results in downgrade of Hydro One credit rating (interest on debt rises)
  37. Invokes s33 of the Charter for the 1st time in Ontario
  38. Back to work legislation for CUPE 3903
  39. Regulations re: vaping put on hold
  40. Mental health funding cut by $1.34B over four years* Udpated
  41. Snitch line to complain about teachers introduced
  42. Indigenous and ESL language training for schools cut
  43. Stops the ban on back end payment mutual funds (cheap up front a mess at the end)
  44. Proposed safe injection sites put on hold (google Naloxone)
  45. 2 of 4 credit rating agencies downgrade Ontario from stable to negative.
  46. Disbanded Anti-Racism Directorate and all sub-committees
  47. Stopped WSIB UFL 10 years ahead of recommendation of the Auditor General
  48. Considers govt takeover of TTC
  49. Cut WSIB payments to injured workers by 30%
  50. Kills Bill C-148 which gave p/t workers the same pay as f/t, guaranteed 10 days off (2 paid) & other benefits (reducing bereavement days to TWO days)
  51. Ends the Drive Clean program.
  52. Paused the parents reaching out program - funding for parent councils for schools including breakfast programs and assisting with tutoring.
  53. Cancels or postpones 33% increase to shelters
  54. $35M to fight the federal carbon tax
  55. Cuts French Language Commissioner
  56. Cancels plans for French Language University
  57. Promise not kept - allows pot dispensaries within 150m of schools (oppose Libs 450 m rule)
  58. Shuts down College of Trades (who had a 20M reserve fund i.e. operating at a surplus)*edited
  59. Removes rent control. No rent control for new units (not previously rented)
  60. Reduces oversight on the Environment
  61. Will not implement tax increase on 1% ($275M in lost revenue) *edited
  62. Appoints OPP Commissioner of questionable qualifications (& lied about pulling strings to put said buddy in charge of the OPP)
  63. Pulled the plug on expert panel to end violence against women. * edited Feb16
  64. Overruling Hydro One Board’s selection for CEO (see #87)
  65. Ontario Chief Comptroller (accountant) resigns because she won’t sign off on the lie that there was a $15B deficit
  66. Cut protections for water, food, childcare safety and opened up the greenbelt to development (Greenbelt development currently on hold) *edited
  67. Cut all funding for the College of Midwives (retroactively)
  68. Cut funding for Indigenous Cultural Fund
  69. Slashed funding for Friendship Centres
  70. $5m slashed from Ontario Arts Council (retroactively)
  71. Limits grant for post secondary education, reduces tuition by placing cost on universities and colleges
  72. Ends the gap time for repayment of student loans
  73. Dissolving LHINs (Local Health Integration Networks) & replacing with no more than 5 oversight bodies) *
  74. Pander to Hunters with odd reduction in permits and proposed Double Crested Cormorant cull.
  75. Appoints friends to Boards with exceptional salaries
  76. Bill 66 - allows municipalities to ignore environmental, heath and safety regulations
  77. Consideration of ending regulations to protect endangered species to allow for development
  78. Looking for additional $1B to cuts in education
  79. Offered $150K to 97 year-old Hazel McCallion as advisor- who pressured Wynn for years to open the Greenbelt to development. McCallion turned position down. *edited
  80. Removes electric vehicle chargers from GO station parking lots.
  81. Considers removing caps on kindergarten, primary class sizes. Will not guarantee full day kindergarten in 2019. *
  82. Removed “red tape” for farmers. (Details TBA) (backed down in section 10)
  83. “Streamlines” Landlord Tenant Board. (more to follow)
  84. Decision made to appeal the Robinson Huron Treaty claim, after feds agreed not to.
  85. Promoted white supremacy and paid zero political price for it.
  86. Costs HydroOne $136M in termination fees to Avista and $49M in commissions as a direct result of govt meddling in a $4.4B merger. Hydro One posted a $227M profit in it’s most recent quarter. Growth strategy now toast. see #64.
  87. The “keep it off the books” (and paid for by the OPP) personalized camper van request.
  88. Backed out of gender identity debate.
  89. Refuses to honour funding for sexual assault centres.
  90. Fired children's advocate, and closed Ontario Child Advocate’s Office. Elman found out through the media his office had been closed.
  91. Scrapped funding for three satellite University campuses citing deficit (see #65)
  92. Scrapped the Social Impact bonds issued by the previous government to help pay for social programs.
  93. Increased their own monthly housing allowance over 20% (retroactive to July 2018) to combat inflated costs. (see #59)
  94. $8M first year loss at OCS (Ontario Cannabis Store)
  95. Strips protections for apprentices (1:1 ratio apprentices to skilled tradesmen) therefore placing ALL workers under risk. See injury rates in B.C.
  96. Cuts in pay for family doctors working in new primary care models in Ontario (introduced to counter the shortage of docs in 2000)
  97. Took credit for CAMH expansion (on Bell Help Day)
  98. Docs uncovered by the minority NDP party of a total revamp of the healthcare system with a two-tier privatization system for Ontario residents (done behind closed doors). Records indicate it is already a DONE DEAL.
  99. Ford calls on the OPP to investigate #100
  100. OPS employee who leaked health docs is fired.
  101. Calls on Fed Govt to end all tariffs on steel and aluminum.
  102. As part of the OSAP changes, announced a provision making compulsory, non-academic fees optional (hurting much-needed support services to students, and more to the point student unions) *Edited Feb 16
  103. Pushes to privatize Ontario place.
  104. As per #83 cuts eviction notice time to 6 days, allow private bailiffs to remove renters.
  105. Illegally cancelled the Task Force (which made reconciliation possible) that resulted from the OPSEU College Faculty strike in Fall 2017. Sued by task force.
  106. Announces plan to upload TTC subways to province spring of 2019, and increase fares. (see #48)
  107. Huge cuts and changes announced to Autism funding and entire program with no clear path forward.
  108. ONTABA threatened by MacLeod to provide a quote of support for the govt’s new (vaguely revealed) program. ONTABA not consulted in new program after requesting numerous times to meet with MacLeod since last fall.
 
I would like a government that stays out of my way and my pocket, but @Wet Blanket is the new norm up here so I will have to settle with the philipino mother of three down the road being legally obligated to wax my ballgina.
 
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