Bisping doesn´t know how to use Tapology and says Chimaev has pulled out of 6 fights

Jeffery09 said:
Chimaev has way below the average UFC fighters pull out history.. That narrative is a fallacy and got countered and expelled like the devil.
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Well you can see where it comes from. Last 4 and a half years, he’s only fought 5 times. He’s pulled out twice undisputedly, another time which you disputed (but have provided no source for) but was officially announced, and a 4th time that he and his opponent got covid around the same time though technically his opponent pulled out even though he was likely going to as well.

So you’ve got at least a 3:5 ratio of pull outs to fights in that time period.
 
sdpdude9 said:
Technically, he pulled out 4 times.

Against Edwards (FN 12/19/20)
Against Edwards (FN 1/20/21)
Against Edwards (FN 3/13/21)
Against Whittaker (FN 6/22/24)

Now 3 of those were related to the same Covid incident but it was multiple dates. He also badly missed weight against Diaz, but at a weight class lower. And he’s pretty inactive overall, typically fighting once a year recently. So while his pullouts may be a little overstated, there is reason he has a reputation of being unreliable.
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Mostly right. The first one in 2020 was Leon.

But then we also gotta consider that he technically didn't make the Diaz fight either, and it's only by the luck of another fighter agreeing to weigh up that it didn't fall apart.

So it's 3 and a half, regardless of any "not signed" ridiculousness that Khamzat's biggest fan will try to peddle. It was confirmed as the rebooking date
 
sdpdude9 said:
Khamzat has covid 11/29. Bout in jeopardy.

www.mmamania.com

Report: Khamzat Chimaev has COVID-19, December 19 fight in jeopardy

It’s a race against time (and maybe regulations) to see if Chimaev can recover and test negative in time to still fight.
www.mmamania.com www.mmamania.com

Leon has Covid 12/1. Bout cancelled.

www.espn.com

Sources: Edwards-Chimaev off after positive test

Leon Edwards tested positive for COVID-19, leading to the cancellation of his Dec. 19 bout against Khamzat Chimaev, sources told ESPN.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

So yes, it was technically cancelled when Edwards was unable to compete. But Khamzat by reporting dates had it first putting bout in jeopardy. But when Edwards withdrew it was cancelled, so technically that’s what did it. But given Khamzat didn’t compete for a year due to this, he was likely to pull out as well, hence why it was rescheduled

I don’t just read tapology. I research and read sources.
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But the guys in the War Room insisted that Covid was just the “sniffles” and not a big deal.
 
Random MMA-youtubers who have never fought are pretty much always more accurate with their research than Bisping, Cormier, etc.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
Mostly right. The first one in 2020 was Leon.

But then we also gotta consider that he technically didn't make the Diaz fight either, and it's only by the luck of another fighter agreeing to weigh up that it didn't fall apart.

So it's 3 and a half, regardless of any "not signed" ridiculousness that Khamzat's biggest fan will try to peddle. It was confirmed as the rebooking date
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I later stated the 2020 one is kind of iffy. Reports indicate Khamzat had covid at about the same time putting the bout in jeopardy. But Edwards pulling out was the official catalyst. However, given Khamzat wouldn’t fight for a year due to this Covid situation, he was unlikely to compete regardless. So maybe another half or quarter pull out? Lol
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
Mostly right. The first one in 2020 was Leon.

But then we also gotta consider that he technically didn't make the Diaz fight either, and it's only by the luck of another fighter agreeing to weigh up that it didn't fall apart.

So it's 3 and a half, regardless of any "not signed" ridiculousness that Khamzat's biggest fan will try to peddle. It was confirmed as the rebooking date
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He was mostly wrong by crediting Chimaev Leon´s first pull out.

Besides missing weight is not a pull out. You showed up but just missed weight. Pull out means no show.

Besides the UFC does all the time the same thing which is speculations that certain fighter will be ready hence lets just announce the fight ahead it happened gazillions of times. A hospitalized fighter who was falsely diagnosed with Cancer will likely not sign onto anything.
 
octagonation said:
He was mostly wrong by crediting Chimaev Leon´s first pull out.

Besides missing weight is not a pull out. You showed up but just missed weight. Pull out means no show.

Besides the UFC does all the time the same thing which is speculations that certain fighter will be ready hence lets just announce the fight ahead it happened gazillions of times. A hospitalized fighter who was falsely dianogized with Cancer will likely not sign onto anything.
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Not mostly wrong. There is more to the story than just simply Edwards pulled out. Various reports Khamzat also had covid at the same time (his own team confirmed) and the bout was already unlikely to occur prior to Edwards pull out.
 
Mohawk Banditó said:
You know how percents work? 75% is most


The fight was canceled because of him.
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You mean 66%..

Everybody fought on the card besides it was an irrelevant fight with no stakes on the line.

Just a gimme fight and it played out well for the UFC
 
octagonation said:
Only if his name leon <lmao> <lol>

reaching for straws
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So Khamzat having covid at that time that prevented him from competing for a year was going to fight if Leon didn’t pull out? He didn’t technically pull out but it’s clear he was going to.

If a fighter breaks his leg but his opponent pulls out first, did only his opponent pull out? Or do we just go by tapology and not acknowledge the whole story?
 
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sdpdude9 said:
Technically, he pulled out 4 times.

Against Edwards (FN 12/19/20)
Against Edwards (FN 1/20/21)
Against Edwards (FN 3/13/21)
Against Whittaker (FN 6/22/24)

Now 3 of those were related to the same Covid incident but it was multiple dates. He also badly missed weight against Diaz, but at a weight class lower. And he’s pretty inactive overall, typically fighting once a year recently. So while his pullouts may be a little overstated, there is reason he has a reputation of being unreliable.
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Maybe it’s just me but I think it’s fair to exclude the bouts affected by Covid. It was screwing up fights and events all around the world, not much anyone could have done.
 
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