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Better grappler: Khabib or Khamzat?

1st round Chimaev is way more explosive and lethal. Khabib can take you down and finish you in the 5th, though.

You are a bit of a dimwit aren't you? I didn't say that. RDA is great on the ground but he is not a world class wrestler. He got taken down by almost everyone with solid wrestling.
It’s true that he’s not a world class wressler. Definitely not as impressive as Chimaev taking USMAN down. Rda is hard to take down, though. Only Khabib and Usman could. Not even Colby could.
 
Khabib would break people with his pressure and pace

Khamzat just breaks them.
 
There's a lot more level headed takes in here than I expected
 
Definitely. You can see children gravitate towards Islam. I just think it is hilarious that Khabib doesn't care and just smashes teenagers too. Even against small training partners like Umar. He doesn't concede the top position.



You wouldn't see Khabib invert during training.

You'd actually be surprised. I've posted some training footage before of him playing open guard and inverting. Khabib apparently is really good off his back but just would never be there in comp.

I definitely think Islam is more well rounded than him tho. He has a deeper tool bag. Khabib has sharper tools
 
Both extremely good, I personally find Khamzats style more entertaining. In the Holland fight, he looked like a crocodile tearing apart its prey. It was also cool to see how he showed 0 respect for Usmans and Whittakers wrestling/grappling, just attacked them the same way he did to cans in the beginning of his career.

Khabibs performance vs Gaethje was also really impressive, the way he just continued to pressure him despite eating bombs, until he got him down and finished him.
 
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Khamzat looked floundering against Burns and even Usman and Burns even dropped him a couple times.

1 round of cardio.

Khabib is the much better overall, higher iq fighter.
 
Robs still in his prime

Oh, you are one of those guys... dense mofos prime is NOT age. It is results and mileage.

Yeah he is in his prime thats why he loses in terrible fashion with everyone recently and wins only :
- versus overrated Costa who time and time again only shows that he is not what he were thinking
- versus untested Ikram who was sent to deep water. From C level fighters to Rob.

Rob is past his prime. It isn't debatable. Wars with Romero and fights with Adesanya drained him.
Question is - is he still elite?
 
He arguably lost both of those rounds. He is not the same fighter after round one. Khabib is there for the entire fight.
Khabib arguably lost to the great Gleison Tibau after his 18th pro MMA fight. Khamzat is fighting far, far better competition than Khabib in fewer fights and against guys who didn't belong, did better than Khabib. Khamzat has flawless victoried several fighters. No male MMA fighter from the past or present has done what Khamzat has done to several fighters during his UFC tenure.
 
Oh, you are one of those guys... dense mofos prime is NOT age. It is results and mileage.

Yeah he is in his prime thats why he loses in terrible fashion with everyone recently and wins only :
- versus overrated Costa who time and time again only shows that he is not what he were thinking
- versus untested Ikram who was sent to deep water. From C level fighters to Rob.

Rob is past his prime. It isn't debatable. Wars with Romero and fights with Adesanya drained him.
Question is - is he still elite?
Nah he’s still in his prime. He fights the same. Stats haven’t dropped. He just is in a position where he wasn’t put in title shot scenarios .

Colby and tyron got multiple chances
 
Khamzat
Khabib
Islam
 
Jones
Merab
Chimaev
Khabib
Islam<JonesLaugh><DCWhoa>
 
Khabib did fight an iranian olympic wrestling alternate in ufc...
 
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