best wrestlers (in the world) are gonna get beat in Future UFC/MMA WRESTLING IS NOT BEST MMA BASE

Yeah that does not make you a founder of American MMA sorry.

Before MMA you had NHB fights which was outlawed in the early 1980ties I think it was Pennsylvania.
There has been mma like fighting before UFC 1 in US.
People cross trained for years before.
UFC just change the rule and manage to make it legal.

 


Still does not make you a founder of American MMA.
You said it you self you were a kickboxing gym and watched UFC1 changed name and started to spar mma.
Thats not being a founder. Did you have dedicated submission coaches or BJJ coaches?
 
And what the fuck dies that Proof?
Like seriously?

Still does not make you a founder of American MMA.
You said it you self you were a kickboxing gym and watched UFC1 changed name and started to spar mma.
Thats not being a founder. Did you have dedicated submission coaches or BJJ coaches?

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You have anything to say about wrestling now?
 
Still does not make you a founder of American MMA.
You said it you self you were a kickboxing gym and watched UFC1 changed name and started to spar mma.
Thats not being a founder. Did you have dedicated submission coaches or BJJ coaches?

only a MORON thinks you need "dedicated" submission coaches [strip mall martial arts world view]

we were an MMA sparring club...not an "academy"

we showed up, warmed up and then sparred for 2 hrs a night

now say something about wrestling and quit worrying about my "credentials"
 
heres a look at our club 10+ years after founding in our last days at the community center

I am working with my old friend Andrew [one of our members from the ol' kickboxing days]

 
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And what the fuck dies that Proof?
Like seriously?

It proves EVERYTHING i have been saying

now say something about wrestling or hit the road

# dont know jack
 
this guys is EXHIBIT A of american commercialized martial arts fallacy fanbois

values a fighter based on their swag

IM illegitimate because wore soccer shorts in some of my fights...LOL

EXHIBIT A of mental illness.
 
only a MORON thinks you need "dedicated" submission coaches [strip mall martial arts world view]

we were an MMA sparring club...not an "academy"

we showed up, warmed up and then sparred for 2 hrs a night

now say something about wrestling and quit worrying about my "credentials"

Still does not make you a founder of MMA in America.
You where a few friends that saw UFC 1 and thought that was cool and played pretend MMA.
But thanks for playing.

If you dont want us to worry about your "credentials" why do you bring them up?

No thanks I talked enough about wrestling with you.
I exposed you in your other thread where you could not keep track of your own opinions.
I am still waiting for your to explain your self but you never could.
 
EXHIBIT A of mental illness.

translation: "so what you founded one of the first MMA gyms in AMERICAN history and supported the sport thru the dangerous days of the NHB era taking massive personal and liability risks...

YOU WERE WEARING SOCCER SHORTS!!!

# illegitimate Sensei [swag criteria]

# strip mall honed
 
translation: "so what you founded one of the first MMA gyms in AMERICAN history and supported the sport thru the dangerous days of the NHB era taking massive personal and liability risks...

YOU WERE WEARING SOCCER SHORTS!!!

# illegitimate Sensei [swag criteria]

# strip mall honed

Wait.... Was it mma or one of the first mma gyms?
You know there is a huge different right?
 
Still does not make you a founder of MMA in America.
You where a few friends that saw UFC 1 and thought that was cool and played pretend MMA.
But thanks for playing.

If you dont want us to worry about your "credentials" why do you bring them up?

No thanks I talked enough about wrestling with you.
I exposed you in your other thread where you could not keep track of your own opinions.
I am still waiting for your to explain your self but you never could.

LOL

GET ANGRY ABOUT GETTING SCHOOLED ONLINE....
1 INTERROGATE for "credentials"
2 CALL THEM A BRAGGART when they explain their background
3 DENY LEGITIMACY via strip mall martial arts criteria
 
Wait.... Was it mma or one of the first mma gyms?
You know there is a huge different right?

# desperate discount lawyer

now say something about wrestling and TRY to stop worrying about me

# obsessed
 
Wait.... Was it mma or one of the first mma gyms?
You know there is a huge different right?
Not even that. Just a bunch of knuckleheads who did some gym sparring. Nothing special. There was plenty of this in the 90s
 
LMAO, one guy lands a running flying knee and now all of a sudden wrestlers won't do good in MMA. Sorry to break it to you but most of the UFC champions are wrestlers and have had wrestling bases.

Even the guy that landed the flying knee has a background in wrestling
 
its a fallacy that there is a "best base" for MMA BESIDES MMA ITSELF

people dont go around talking about how rugby is the best base for football

or how racquetball is the best base for tennis

they haven't figured out THAT MMA IS ITS OWN SPORT not kickboxing and wrestling "glued" together

however

their primary exposure to martial arts is thru the american strip mall commercial martial arts world so they maintain a LOT OF FALLACYS!!!
If mma is the best base for mma why are wrestlers still dominating kids who grew up training all aspects of mma? Why has no kid from your mma school made it to the ufc yet Usman and cejudo with a few years training are champs? Why was rory so unsuccessful yet wrestler gsp so successful?
 
LOL

GET ANGRY ABOUT GETTING SCHOOLED ONLINE....
1 INTERROGATE for "credentials"
2 CALL THEM A BRAGGART when they explain their background
3 DENY LEGITIMACY via strip mall martial arts criteria

I have still not seen you school me in a single post.
But keep trying.

I am the one getting mad when you keep name calling people and claim everybody that disagree with you for strip mall martial artist...

You claim a background that is not true.

I understand that this is hard to grasp for you.
 
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