best wrestlers (in the world) are gonna get beat in Future UFC/MMA WRESTLING IS NOT BEST MMA BASE

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  1. -guerilla-

    -guerilla- Founder of the Louisville fight club est..1993 Yellow Card

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    The sport is evolving

    UFC and other American mma promotions are doing everything in their power to advantage the American wrestler because they want "all american champs" so they can sell swag to the fake wrestling NASCAR fanboys [smart business]

    Wrestlers have lots of terrible habits that leave them vulnerable to good knee artists and the best submission guys

    the most accomplished wrestlers are NEVER gonna be that good in mma and just get "fluffed" up for the slack jawed fanboys

    These athletes have spent so many years learning to perfect their "sport grappling" they are ultra specialists

    [just like SPORT BJJ guys]

    profit minded gym owners push the fallacy that training in 5 different martial arts / sports = the ultimate mix for MMA

    The fact IS specialists are getting pushed out of MMA

    Wrestlers days are numbered

    Just like the BJJ days of yore...lol

    wonder when we will actually have MMA training in the USA

    NOT

    Muay thai + BJJ + wrestling = MMA

    there are a lot of wrestlers who are simply holding on the the underbelly of MMA as their sport is slowly absorbed

    desperately clinging on to MMA for relavance

    the bad news is....

    the ride is gonna get tougher!!!
     
  2. rushbeg

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    well all you said is irrelevant since wrestling is the best base for mma and will continue to be so.
    wrestling > all other combat sports
     
  3. SpedDaddyV

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    LMAO, one guy lands a running flying knee and now all of a sudden wrestlers won't do good in MMA. Sorry to break it to you but most of the UFC champions are wrestlers and have had wrestling bases.
     
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    All this based on last nights fight?
     
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    most wrestlers used steroids in their career,with usada they can't dominate.
     
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    Jone Jons Sherdog's Photoshop Ringer

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    but what about wrasslin'?
     
  8. dickcheney

    dickcheney Gold Belt

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    For years It’s not been the BEST wrestlers , boxers, kick boxers, that have excelled...it’s just been the REALLY GOOD ones that also take to other disciplines

    You took one ko and came to some false conclusions

    Many champs have wrestling backgrounds but none were THE BEST wrestlers
     
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    I don’t think this is true
     
  10. whitekid

    whitekid i spit the life, but i don't live the life

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    i'm confused, what do you mean by "actual mma training"?... you don't think fighters like askren and maia train in other disciplines of fighting or training besides wrestling or bjj
     
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    15089371 Yellow Belt

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    It's balancing out more with more strikers based fighter being able to deal with wrestlers, but a big portion of the champs will always be wrestlers. Cormier, Usman, Cejudo, Khabib are all strong wrestlers at the core. It's not just the style, but wrestlers are known to be mentality extremely strong due to the training being so hard compared to other disciplines. Say what you want but wrestling training feels much more terrible than kickbox, bjj, boxing training.
     
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    Cejudo is a double champ.
    Khabib champ.
    Usman champ.
    Jones champ.
    DC Champ.

    <YeahOKJen>
     
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    As long as elite level striking sports exist (and pay more than MMA) wrestlers will always be the bulk of MMA fighters.
     
  14. NoBiasJustMMA

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    A lot of the recent former champions also had wrestling bases like Lawler, Stipe, Woodley and Dillashaw.
     
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    Didn't Whittaker represent Austrailia in wrestling too? TS, is out of his mind.
     
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    Yeah, his base wasn't in wrestling but he's picked it up and trains with a lot of great Australian wrestlers he's kind of like GSP and the Canadian Olympic team where neither started out as wrestlers but work on it with very high level guys constantly.
     
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    Can you back up this claim?
     
  18. PAPERCLIP30

    PAPERCLIP30 Silver Belt

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    Because ONE wrestler lost? Lol

    How many current champs are wrestlers?
     
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    -guerilla- Founder of the Louisville fight club est..1993 Yellow Card

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    Thats what they said about BJJ
     
  20. -guerilla-

    -guerilla- Founder of the Louisville fight club est..1993 Yellow Card

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    I didn't name any fight in particular but that was yet another example

    you're probably used to watching American MMA where knees are highly nerfed
     

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