Media Aspinall gets called out after Waldo toughs through eye poke and kills Aspinall’s teammate.

[1King]

People are still talking about Jones ducking Tom so that's clearly incorrect. There are even new threads specifically about the ducking in context of this new controversy, so what I wrote is clearly proven.

It's as simple as that two guys can get criticized at the same time and the only ones that think it's making Jones look better are the fans that already defended the duck, so nothing is changed there.

A bunch of nerds on sherdog isn’t going to change the GOAT argument . He’s the unanimous GOAT, and people are going to see the record, the murderers row he beat, and the 6 hours of octagon footage he has. Nobody is going to be hung up on the fact that Sherdog or pockets of dudes mad at Jon say he ducked a dude whose body can’t continue when any sort of adversity hits.

The tapes and the record books will do all the talking, just like with GSP. Niche communities don’t have the sway or ability to swing narratives like they believe they do.

 

[Lee Danger]

It's 2025, mmath should be illegal.

mmath also says that Ngannou is a better wrestler than Tom.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

LMAO Waldo was scared shitless to engage in that fight. Low output snoozer.

Only you would see a fight that Waldo lost because he was scared of being KO'd by a guy that Aspinall put away easily and day "Derp, definitely Waldo has the edge!"

Let's be honest here. Both guys didn't want to engage lol. Tom turned Pav into a counter puncher and Waldo is naturally a counter puncher which is why it turned into both guys staring at each other circling around waiting for the other to go first hoping the other over commits lol

 

[Pequeño Corey]

Almost 10/10, but then he immediately grabs his eye after the KO like he just reinjured it and looks dramatic and cringey af. All that screaming during the break was pretty stupid, as well. Where's Waldo Cortex Acosto will get KO'd in his next fight.

 

[mkess101]

Let's be honest here. Both guys didn't want to engage lol. Tom turned Pav into a counter puncher and Waldo is naturally a counter puncher which is why it turned into both guys staring at each other circling around waiting for the other to go first and over commit lol

Sure, but one guy was somewhat clearly winning. He doesn't need to adjust. The guy that's losing is the one who needs to take chances and change things and Waldo was too scared of the power to do it.

 

[Pompey Junglist]

Aspinall would obliterate Waldo.

 

[Pompey Junglist]

Let's talk about how unhinged MMA Joey is being right now

In the UK, the word 'Joey' is slang for a spastic, retard or someone with downs syndrome.

 

[markg171]

Aspinall would obliterate Waldo.

How? He's literally blind right now dawg

 

[CatchtheseHands]

Sure, but one guy was somewhat clearly winning. He doesn't need to adjust. The guy that's losing is the one who needs to take chances and change things and Waldo was too scared of the power to do it.

I don't disagree with this, what Pav was doing was working and it was up to Waldo to adjust but I don't think it was so much he was scared as it was he didn't know how. Pav's defensive boxing and timing on his counters were very on point that night and left very little openings if any. Pav was like an impenetrable fortress. Unfortunately Waldo just did not have the striking know how to deal with that and most of the HW division would not know how to deal with that outside of Alex, Tom and Cyril lol.

 

[mkess101]

I don't disagree with this, what Pav was doing was working and it was up to Waldo to adjust but I don't think it was so much he was scared as it was he didn't know how. Pav's defensive boxing and timing on his counters were very on point that night and left very little openings if any. Pav was like an impenetrable fortress. Unfortunately Waldo just did not have the striking know how to deal with that and most of the HW division would not know how to deal with that outside of Alex, Tom and Cyril lol.

I mean..I think there's some truth to that. But there were times watching it where it just stood out that Waldo didn't want to enter the pocket at all. Pav would feint and instead of fainting himself to draw a reaction or get Pav to commit, Waldo would disengage and retreat to safety. You can do that for awhile if you're looking to get your timing, etc. But he just seemed to never want to try anything that might get him hit.

 

[CatchtheseHands]

I mean..I think there's some truth to that. But there were times watching it where it just stood out that Waldo didn't want to enter the pocket at all. Pav would feint and instead of fainting himself to draw a reaction or get Pav to commit, Waldo would disengage and retreat to safety. You can do that for awhile if you're looking to get your timing, etc. But he just seemed to never want to try anything that might get him hit.

I just re watched the fight.. Surprisingly he did take risks, a lot more than I remembered and more than anyone who has fought him so far. Waldo was going forward and sitting inside the pocket quite a lot eating bombs that would have put others out but despite this he kept trying to land something significant throughout the fight but Pav's counters were just too quick and accurate and Waldo did not know how to get around them. It was just regular ol skill diffed with this one here. I also completely forgot Waldo pointed to the ground in the final 10 seconds wanting to stand and bang with Pav. Absolute mad man.

 

[mkess101]

I just re watched the fight.. Surprisingly he did take risks, a lot more than I remembered and more than anyone who has fought him so far. Waldo was going forward and sitting inside the pocket quite a lot eating bombs that would have put others out but despite this he kept trying to land something significant throughout the fight but Pav's counters were just too quick and accurate and Waldo did not know how to get around them. It was just regular ol skill diffed with this one here. I also completely forgot Waldo pointed to the ground in the final 10 seconds wanting to stand and bang with Pav. Absolute mad man.

I'll rewatch. I remember Waldo coming forward and then every time Pav feinted Waldo retreating to reset. Then move forward but never open up. But maybe I'm remembering wrong.

If the skill edge was that much in favor of Pav though vs just fear of engaging by Waldo, that doesn't bode well for him vs Aspinall either. Tom is faster and more precise than Pav by far, so Waldo likely would look completely lost vs someone like Aspinall or Gane.

 

[egk]

Waldo's eye two days later:

Tom's eye day after the poke:

 

[CatchtheseHands]

I'll rewatch. I remember Waldo coming forward and then every time Pav feinted Waldo retreating to reset. Then move forward but never open up. But maybe I'm remembering wrong.

If the skill edge was that much in favor of Pav though vs just fear of engaging by Waldo, that doesn't bode well for him vs Aspinall either. Tom is faster and more precise than Pav by far, so Waldo likely would look completely lost vs someone like Aspinall or Gane.

Yeah I don't think Waldo is beating Tom or Cyril and I'm not delusional enough to believe that lol but for the current state of HW he is a solid upper 10 ranked guy and is a tough fight for anyone outside of the top 5 IMO.

 

[AmonTobin]

Maybe Aspinall will KO Waldo after he KO's Gane.

 

[swarrrm]

The real story here is that yet ANOTHER fighter got poked because the rules haven't changed. UFC and the athletic commissions are negligent at this point and Waldo should sue them if he suffers any permanent damage

And it wasn't even a thought from the ref to take a point after stopping the fight and calling it a TKO then restarting it. I see more consistent officiating in king of the streets. Where eye pokes are legal btw and happen less often than in the UFC.

 

[Wrath of Foamy]

Lmao at blaming victims.

How very American...

 

[Squarechoke]

A bunch of nerds on sherdog isn’t going to change the GOAT argument . He’s the unanimous GOAT, and people are going to see the record, the murderers row he beat, and the 6 hours of octagon footage he has. Nobody is going to be hung up on the fact that Sherdog or pockets of dudes mad at Jon say he ducked a dude whose body can’t continue when any sort of adversity hits.

The tapes and the record books will do all the talking, just like with GSP. Niche communities don’t have the sway or ability to swing narratives like they believe they do.

Now you're changing the subject. We were discussing the ducking conversation and how Tom's controversy doesn't help him there.

The GOAT conversation for Jon's case is mainly dictated by him being the UFC record holder in pissing hot. That's his legacy.

 

[wannabetoughguy]

Aspinal was cooked and rushing in hoping to land. Part of him wanted out after one more thing to overcome in that cage.

I'm no fighter, but it's been said already what we saw was a character flaw. You'd want your favorite fighters to say let me at him.

To think Arturo Gatti overcame knockdowns and in least one fight couldn't see out of both eyes only to stop the man with a body shot. Let that sink in for a second... Arturo Gatti had at least one eye shut or bloodied on multiple occasions ans willed his way to victory.

 

[Captain Herb]

Even if it was true that Tom wanted a way out after a bloody nose (lol) Gane shouldn't have stuck his finger halfway into his eye socket. If he was cruising to an easy win over a desperate and crippled Tom, intentionally fouling him was a dumb move by Cyril and Cyril has a history of dumb moves--and eyepoking.