Arman Tsarukyan Issues Statement Amid Uncertainty Regarding Next Fight

[richardjohnson]

because of how his management moves. That's why i can't simply believe he pulled out on his own.

How they got the porier fight by offering armen a fight on a 7 week turn around, which IMO was just out right avoiding Armen, As if Ali didn't know he was fighting in june. I've ALWAYS maintained that Ali and the UFC make deals with each other. I'll give you gaethje/max, if you give me Dustin/islam ect. I 100% believe this kind of stuff happens.

and I have nothing against islam, I've never had anything negative to say about islam. It's his manager and his career management i pick on. Otherwise I like Islam. Good role model, Muslim, generally a cool fun guy but I spit on his career management and fight selection (yes, fighting volk was a choice, he absolutely could have fought gamrot, not going through that again)

Please provide even the slightest bit of evidence that Islam, his team and/or the UFC had any influence on Arman pulling out. If you can’t, you really should give up on this wild conspiracy theory.

 

[Rio Ferdinand]

Dana freezing his ass out.

Punishment for fucking up a headliner.

 

[Neck&Neck]

Arman Hammer should just retire
He’s rich, got connections
Just get into business or real estate and kick back

UFC is an opportunity

 

[NoSmilez]

What absolute jabroni journalism is this?

Referring to Arman as a Russian? He's Armenian, born of Armenian parents, walks to the cage in an Armenian flag. How can you get the basics so wrong?

He is somewhat Russian. He is an ethnic Armenian living in Russia. He lived there since he was 3. He still lives there. He used to walk in with a Russian flag too.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Please provide even the slightest bit of evidence that Islam, his team and/or the UFC had any influence on Arman pulling out. If you can’t, you really should give up on this wild conspiracy theory.

I dont need to, It's my wild conspiracy theory and I really dont care if you believe it or not. if you believe Armen was cutting weight for that fight in the build up I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[Feaser]

you know what's funny?

I made several comments before the fight that Armen KNEW he wasn't making weight and faked a back injury to get out of the fight instead of losing a portion of his purse. I was called a crazy schitzo basically with a wild imagination because im smart enough to see the writing on the wall. he was CLEARLY super jacked and not really cutting the weight. He knew he couldn't make it so he pulled out last minute. I would not be surprised if Islam's manager was in on it and paid armen to do that for them to get islam the title defense record nice and easy (call me crazy I really dont care)

That’s not crazy at all. People who think shit like that doesn’t happen are retards. Not saying that’s what happened, but that’s certainly possible.

Islam should just fight whoever is available in his weight class right now. If Arman can’t get himself ready, that’s a problem. I get the impression that maybe he or his management are being difficult behind the scenes. Especially after his latest statement, his situation makes no sense.

 

[RichardHarrow]

 

[RichardHarrow]

you know what's funny?

I made several comments before the fight that Armen KNEW he wasn't making weight and faked a back injury to get out of the fight instead of losing a portion of his purse. I was called a crazy schitzo basically with a wild imagination because im smart enough to see the writing on the wall. he was CLEARLY super jacked and not really cutting the weight. He knew he couldn't make it so he pulled out last minute. I would not be surprised if Islam's manager was in on it and paid armen to do that for them to get islam the title defense record nice and easy (call me crazy I really dont care)

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Exactly, people think it's all about "punishing" Arman but you have to look at it from the UFC's perspective. This was the first time he was obligated to make 155lbs and he pulled out on a days notice. If they give him a title fight next and he ends up missing weight or pulling out on the day before again it would be all on UFC at that point. Fool me once...

He had an Italian guy as his nutritionist loading him with pasta. I'm guessing he was at an embarassing weight, like 158 and incapable of another pound.

 

[usernamee]

He had an Italian guy as his nutritionist loading him with pasta. I'm guessing he was at an embarassing weight, like 158 and incapable of another pound.

I'm certainly no expert on this topic but I would guess pasta isn't bad in the sense that you can digest it fairly quickly compared to some other complex carbs.

However I wouldn't want to eat pasta when cutting calories and food though... The volume to calories ratio sucks. Or maybe that's also good. Less food in belly even though you get to eat less it's less to deal with for the stomach..

 

[humdizzle]

i still think he popped for something

ufc just doesn't have to disclose these things now. they'll just ice him for a bit and he'll return when the 6-12 month suspension is over. less damaging to his brand and the UFCs this way

 

[Feaser]

i still think he popped for something

ufc just doesn't have to disclose these things now. they'll just ice him for a bit and he'll return when the 6-12 month suspension is over. less damaging to his brand and the UFCs this way

That didn’t occur to me, but that would explain a lot.

 

[richardjohnson]

That’s not crazy at all. People who think shit like that doesn’t happen are retards. Not saying that’s what happened, but that’s certainly possible.

You don't think it's at all crazy to believe that Arman took a bribe to purposefully sabotage his first and possibly only chance at a title fight?

What the hell am I reading?

 

[RichardHarrow]

you know what's funny?

I made several comments before the fight that Armen KNEW he wasn't making weight and faked a back injury to get out of the fight instead of losing a portion of his purse. I was called a crazy schitzo basically with a wild imagination because im smart enough to see the writing on the wall. he was CLEARLY super jacked and not really cutting the weight. He knew he couldn't make it so he pulled out last minute. I would not be surprised if Islam's manager was in on it and paid armen to do that for them to get islam the title defense record nice and easy (call me crazy I really dont care)

Rocky, you're a good poster. One of few that I usually disagree with but provides good quality posts nevertheless for me to reflect on. It's healthy to debate. A bit of bias, yes, but I'm also guilty of that.

But posts like these really does destroy your credibility as a member here and question the genuinity of other posts. This is more than just a stretch. "paid Arman"? Do you know how loaded the Tsarukyan family is ?

 

[Feaser]

You don't think it's at all crazy to believe that Arman took a bribe to sabotage his first and possibly only chance at a title fight?

What the hell am I reading?

No, I don’t.
Like I said, I am not saying that’s what happened, but it’s not impossible or even implausible. People who dismiss those possibilities out of hand are naive. The world runs on shady backroom deals. Here’s a hypothetical. If Arman was off schedule for his weight, he’d be fighting a non-title fight, and Islam wouldn’t get a defense on his record. It’s lose-lose for them both. In that situation, the managers contact each other and decide what to do. If Arman insists on fighting a non-title fight, Islam might decide to pull out, which is bad publicity for him. If he fights and loses, it harms his legacy even if he retains the belt. So their managers hammer out a public narrative that allows both fighters to save face and keep their value—Arman is “injured,” but they agree Islam will face Moicano (same team, ATT), and Islam will still endorse Arman as rightful challenger. It’s not a bribe per se, but it’s an exchange where both parties are trying to get something they want, and it’s totally different from what gets reported in the media.

That’s one hypothetical example. Again I’m not saying that happened, but it’s not a crazy theory at all.

 

[Cartiac]

i still think he popped for something

ufc just doesn't have to disclose these things now. they'll just ice him for a bit and he'll return when the 6-12 month suspension is over. less damaging to his brand and the UFCs this way

That is a very likely possibility but I don't think it was the UFC testing that was the problem. As you said, the UFC has internalized their process, but if you fight you are going to get tested by the commission and UFC can't protect you from that.

 

[richardjohnson]

No, I don’t.
Like I said, I am not saying that’s what happened, but it’s not impossible or even implausible. People who dismiss those possibilities out of hand are naive. The world runs on shady backroom deals. Here’s a hypothetical. If Arman was off schedule for his weight, he’d be fighting a non-title fight, and Islam wouldn’t get a defense on his record. It’s lose-lose for them both. In that situation, the managers contact each other and decide what to do. If Arman insists on fighting a non-title fight, Islam might decide to pull out, which is bad publicity for him. If he fights and loses, it harms his legacy even if he retains the belt. So their managers hammer out a public narrative that allows both fighters to save face and keep their value—Arman is “injured,” but they agree Islam will face Moicano (same team, ATT), and Islam will still endorse Arman as rightful challenger. It’s not a bribe per se, but it’s an exchange where both parties are trying to get something they want, and it’s totally different from what gets reported in the media.

That’s one hypothetical example. Again I’m not saying that happened, but it’s not a crazy theory at all.

I mean I see where you’re coming from but I’d still say that theory is a little out there. Also the scenario you laid out is quite a bit different than the idea that Islam paid Arman to botch the weight cut so he wouldn’t have to fight him.

 

[RichardHarrow]

"Step aside money"

@RockyLockridge @richardjohnson

 

[RockyLockridge]

"Step aside money"

@RockyLockridge @richardjohnson

good point, I forget that armen is rich as hell probably no reason to step aside for funds

But posts like these really does destroy your credibility as a member here and question the genuinity of other posts.

This is an online karate forum, I assume most users posts are works of fiction never to be taken seriously at anytime. If you don't question the geuninity of every single post you read on here at all times, you truly are lost.

There are like 7 people on this forum with "credibillity" I'm not the type of person who cares about being credible. Credibillity is the trait of a bitch ass / bootlicker anyway, doing anything they can to conform and have their opinions widely accepted.


Im this guy.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

For a guy having to climb the ladder by beating Joel Alavarez, Gamrot, Benny and then Oliveira - he still deserves it. But that ain't how life works. Dana is petty and doesn't listen to reasoning.

They'll be fast tracking Paddy Pimpelet to a title with a match up over an aging 36 year old Gaethje.

can't blame Dana here. Arman royally fucked them on the biggest fight of the year. Paddy on the other hand, has never missed weight despite everyone shitting on him for being a fatso between camps, and he doesn't pull out at the last minute.

i don't know why people are upset about Paddy's rise anyway. LW only has Arman and FWs as title contenders. if Paddy sucks as bad as people who dislike him thinks he does, then UFC is only fast tracking him into a brutal loss. it's like Chris Daukaus's career at HW, you can only fight so many cans before you run into a real one.