All Time GOAT poll

welcometohavoc said:
Even if that were objectively true (and it isn't), his resume speaks for itself. Unlike Fedor and Anderson, virtually every fight GSP had in the UFC/Pride was a top 10 fight...and he won 95% of them
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Diamondsareforever47 said:
True true. Crazy
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Do not pretend to change history:

- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459

Anderson was consistenly regarded as the superior fighter than GSP...
...during GSP best years.
 
pankrat said:
Do not pretend to change history:

- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459

Anderson was consistenly regarded as the superior fighter than GSP...
...during GSP best years.
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2010 GSP p4p #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-28930

2011 GSP p4p #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-31030

GOAT rankings :

GSP #1
https://www.tapology.com/rankings/top-ten-all-time-greatest-mma-and-ufc-fighters

GSP #1
https://mmasucka.com/2020/06/02/goat-of-mma/

GSP #1
https://www.fightmatrix.com/all-time-mma-rankings/all-time-absolute/

GSP #1 tied with Khabib
https://www.givemesport.com/1672105-mcgregor-khabib-jones-stpierre-nunes-ufc-goat-contenders-ranked

GSP #1 tied with Jones
https://www.sportbible.com/ufc/news-ufc-and-mma-fighters-ranked-from-goat-to-not-a-fighter-20201121

Latest GOAT poll conducted among fighters (survey among 170 mma fighters) : GSP #1
https://theathletic.com/1856943/2020/06/05/fighters-vote-mma-goat-pound-for-pound-best/

Sherdog's all time goat poll : GSP #1
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/all-time-goat-poll.3916359/page-232#post-167971276
 
pankrat said:
Do not pretend to change history:

- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459

Anderson was consistenly regarded as the superior fighter than GSP...
...during GSP best years.
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This is true. However, in retrospect, Anderson Silva was a dirty fighter. That changes the equation in terms of history. Do you deny this?

let me put it to you like this. When you are flunking steroid or performance-enhancing drug test before USADA

that’s really bad..
 
Dbreiden83080 said:
This is true. However, in retrospect, Anderson Silva was a dirty fighter. That changes the equation in terms of history. Do you deny this?

let me put it to you like this. When you are flunking steroid or performance-enhancing drug test before USADA

that’s really bad..
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We do know that plenty of Silva's tittle challengers took enchancing drugs, but he himself never failed a test as a champ.
Its a legit argument though, a clean GOAT ranking would certainly be different
 
pankrat said:
We do know that plenty of Silva's tittle challengers took enchancing drugs, but he himself never failed a test as a champ.
Its a legit argument though, a clean GOAT ranking would certainly be different
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Fair enough..
 
Lol the fact Silva, MM, Aldo are on this list shows the utter cluelessness of sherdog.

These 3 where happy to just sit in average even weak divisions and cling to the belt. MM lacked a credible challenge and at the same time refused to go up... so much so could barely sell a ppv and got cut.

Izzy and Volk are levels above.

It's really between Jones, Izzy, Volk and GSP.

Scrub Jones off for being a drug cheat. Izzy is not quite there yet.

So it's between Volk and GSP.
 
Leon Edwards said:
That is delusional have a look at Fedors record. I would argue DC has a better resume than Fedor
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DC HW resume is shit.

40yo Monson (mediocre at his prime)
40yo Barnett
40yo Mir. (mediocre at his prime)
40yo Nelson (mediocre at his prime)
Pezão
Lewis (another mediocre fighter)
Miocic who beat him twice.

Guy didn't fight Cain, Werdum, Overeem and a bunch of the elite HWs of his time.

Shit, even his LHW is weak as fuck.

Cormier and Miocic are the most overrated fighters ever, Dana and Rogan did great at brainwashing mfs.
 
My pick is GSP, but... that is implying that the concept of "Pound for pound" is factored-in to the discussion.

Without factoring in "P4P"... the general assumption is that you the Greatest HEAVYWEIGHT is The Greatest, period.

So there're 2 GOATS -- One P4P, One ABSOLUTE:

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Westbrick said:
DC HW resume is shit.

40yo Monson (mediocre at his prime)
40yo Barnett
40yo Mir. (mediocre at his prime)
40yo Nelson (mediocre at his prime)
Pezão
Lewis (another mediocre fighter)
Miocic who beat him twice.

Guy didn't fight Cain, Werdum, Overeem and a bunch of the elite HWs of his time.

Shit, even his LHW is weak as fuck.

Cormier and Miocic are the most overrated fighters ever, Dana and Rogan did great at brainwashing mfs.
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Jones beat Stipe, BB, Barnett, Big Foot, AJ, Gus, Hendo.

Fedor beat Zulu, Nog, Brett Rogers and got koed by Hendo.
 
CoffeeAndBeer said:
My pick is GSP, but... that is implying that the concept of "Pound for pound" is factored-in to the discussion.

Without factoring in "P4P"... the general assumption is that you the Greatest HEAVYWEIGHT is The Greatest, period.

So there're 2 GOATS -- One P4P, One ABSOLUTE:

st-pierre-696x392.jpg
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Who is the one to lay and pray on top of Welterweights his whole career?

<BC1>
 
Leon Edwards said:
Jones beat Stipe, BB, Barnett, Big Foot, AJ, Gus, Hendo.

Fedor beat Zulu, Nog, Brett Rogers and got koed by Hendo.
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DC resume is so weak we need to put a fat WW and a bum in Lewis.
Let's compare:

Prime Nog 2x - who's easily #2 HW ever with a far margin to the 3rd.
Prime Arona
Prime Coleman 2x
Prime CC
Prime Randleman
Schilt who's a better fighter than that bum Lewis
Prime AA
Hunt
Sylvia
Rogers who's SF Lewis.

Old man vs old man he killed Monson, Rizzo, Mir,; Rampage, Sonnen...


The only elite HW DC fought he was 1-2.

Didn't fight Werdum, Cain, Browne, Ubereem, JDS or Francis.

Stipe resume is way better than DC.
 
stacrafty said:
Lol the fact Silva, MM, Aldo are on this list shows the utter cluelessness of sherdog.

These 3 where happy to just sit in average even weak divisions and cling to the belt. MM lacked a credible challenge and at the same time refused to go up... so much so could barely sell a ppv and got cut.

Izzy and Volk are levels above.

It's really between Jones, Izzy, Volk and GSP.

Scrub Jones off for being a drug cheat. Izzy is not quite there yet.

So it's between Volk and GSP.
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Cool story dude:

- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459

Anderson was consistenly regarded as the superior fighter than GSP.....during GSP best years.

BTW, Anderson himself is a former WW, not much if any bigger than pleny of WWs today. You dont know because you are a textbook sherbro
 
If only Anderson wasn't a proven PED cheat.
 
pankrat said:
Cool story dude:

Anderson was consistenly regarded as the superior fighter than GSP.....during GSP best years.

BTW, Anderson himself is a former WW, not much if any bigger than pleny of WWs today. You dont know because you are a textbook sherbro
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Stop spewing lies.
 
CoffeeAndBeer said:
My pick is GSP, but... that is implying that the concept of "Pound for pound" is factored-in to the discussion.

Without factoring in "P4P"... the general assumption is that you the Greatest HEAVYWEIGHT is The Greatest, period.

So there're 2 GOATS -- One P4P, One ABSOLUTE:

st-pierre-696x392.jpg
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This is more relevant in boxing where heavyweights were/are the gold standard & the lower weights needed help to get fan appreciation.

I feel like MMA has always been a lot less heavyweight-centric.

P4P for me:
GSP
Fedor
Mighty Mouse
 
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