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All Time GOAT poll

balkanbomber85 said:
If Usman beats Edwards we should add him to the list, my dudes!
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You could feel the collective relief from GSP fans when Usman got KOed.

Same reason Anderson fans are constantly praying for Izzy to lose. They can feel him nipping at Anderson's MW kingpin claim.
 
Mack McMarkles said:
Sure, I agree. As long as Anderson Silva fans don't then try to have it both ways.


Anderson beat Saku in 2001 and Newton in 2003 and then lost to Takase in 2003, Chonan in 2004, and Okami in 2006.

Many Anderson fans argue for his big WW wins to count in his GOAT considerations and then his MW run while saying those losses should not count against him as that was not in his Prime and GOAT is about his Prime run.

Well then the WW fights don't count. Or they do, and the losses count too.
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lol at Okami 2006.
Chonan and Takase fights were at MW (183lbs)
Such a noob pretending to give any lesson

<DisgustingHHH>


btw official Sherdog p4p rankings:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459
 
TR1 said:
You could feel the collective relief from GSP fans when Usman got KOed.

Same reason Anderson fans are constantly praying for Izzy to lose. They can feel him nipping at Anderson's MW kingpin claim.
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More so GSP fans the because Usman was finishing tittle defenses unlike Georges which shortens the gap faster, while in Silva-Israel is the other way around.
I mean, this is Yoel Romero after his tittle fight lol



Also, it happened that Silva well into his 40s ketp it close with Adesanya while nobody really even imagine so with GSP vs Usman today
 
pankrat said:
lol at Okami 2006.
Chonan and Takase fights were at MW (183lbs)
Such a noob pretending to give any lesson

<DisgustingHHH>


btw official Sherdog p4p rankings:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459
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You missed the point entirely as a way to spam your Silva nuthuggery.

The point is you cannot count fights in 2001 and 2003 which were wins towards Anderson's GOAT resume and then say his entire UFC MW run also counts while then saying his losses post 2001 and 2003 and before the UFC run don't then count as the nutty Anderson fans often argue.


Anderson fans want it both ways and it does not work that way. If you want to bolster Anderson's GOAT resume with his wins at WW, and add them to his UFC run at MW, then everything in between also counts. So his Takase loss, his Chonan loss and his Okami loss all need to be added which means of the GOAT candidates he has the greatest amount losses during his prime consideration years for his GOAT resume.
 
Mack McMarkles said:
You missed the point entirely as a way to spam your Silva nuthuggery.

The point is you cannot count fights in 2001 and 2003 which were wins towards Anderson's GOAT resume and then say his entire UFC MW run also counts while then saying his losses post 2001 and 2003 and before the UFC run don't then count as the nutty Anderson fans often argue.


Anderson fans want it both ways and it does not work that way. If you want to bolster Anderson's GOAT resume with his wins at WW, and add them to his UFC run at MW, then everything in between also counts. So his Takase loss, his Chonan loss and his Okami loss all need to be added which means of the GOAT candidates he has the greatest amount losses during his prime consideration years for his GOAT resume.
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Start by watcing the Silva vs Okami fight in 2006. Great fighter Okami btw.

Get a hobby dude, you just exposed yourself as a complete noob. stop pretending is disgusting
<DisgustingHHH>
 
BomberMan said:
Thanks for correcting me, all the “facts” I’ve stated here are just off the top of my head and believe me I’m no way near as diligent and thorough in my research as I used to be. But my opinion still stands, DJ hasn’t faced the level of competition that GSP has.
In terms of Jones and his PED use, I’ve never put too much weight into the clean VS dirty athletes debate, because IMO most athletes are using anyway, some are just able to hide their usage better. Even without PEDs I believe Jones will still be where he is today, we’ll never really know though.
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Fair enough. DJ is something special and so is GSP. Jones is a dirty fighter even when you take out the PEDs but for me PEDs is a major asterisk.
 
Mack McMarkles said:
You missed the point entirely as a way to spam your Silva nuthuggery.

The point is you cannot count fights in 2001 and 2003 which were wins towards Anderson's GOAT resume and then say his entire UFC MW run also counts while then saying his losses post 2001 and 2003 and before the UFC run don't then count as the nutty Anderson fans often argue.


Anderson fans want it both ways and it does not work that way. If you want to bolster Anderson's GOAT resume with his wins at WW, and add them to his UFC run at MW, then everything in between also counts. So his Takase loss, his Chonan loss and his Okami loss all need to be added which means of the GOAT candidates he has the greatest amount losses during his prime consideration years for his GOAT resume.
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Lmfaooooo!

<Dany07>

I can't believe that guy of all people on Sherdog told someone else to, "get a hobby", hahahahah, its always funny that the ones who double down on a illogical opinion, and incorrectly stating it as a " fact" are the ones who are unable to see the irony & hypocrisy of their statements.

You do you know you're responding to someone whose known to double down on incorrect &/or illogical subjects, simply because he believes his feelings and emotions somehow make something factual. Also somebody who likes to disguise discussion as arguments that he thinks he's good at arguing or defending of his opinions. Also someone who plays Mr. KnowItAll, ignoring any & all of the evidence used against him, as in his mind, only his evidence matters/counts.

{<jordan}


You're pretty much better off trying to have a logical discussion with a literal brickwalls, as you'd probably get farther in a conversation/discussion/argument with one of those, than you will with him.


By all means, continue on with'em though, I never grow tired with the giggles I get when he responds with an absurd excuse as to why his view is always the "best"

<36>
<Oku02>
<{yahyou}>
<{Heymansnicker}>
 
pankrat said:
More so GSP fans the because Usman was finishing tittle defenses unlike Georges which shortens the gap faster, while in Silva-Israel is the other way around.
I mean, this is Yoel Romero after his tittle fight lol



Also, it happened that Silva well into his 40s ketp it close with Adesanya while nobody really even imagine so with GSP vs Usman today
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As always you are simply making stuff up.

GSP's dominance in his title fights wins would get no less respect or value than Usman's wins. You can personally value finishes more but that does not mean others have to, thus why GSP is the GOAT of this sport and Anderson is not.

And lets not forget GSP came out of retirement to take the MW belt, when Anderson, even in his prime would never fight any of the top LHW of his day.

I mean, imagine had Gastelum got Bisping first, viscously KO'd him and then GSP went up and fought and finished the husk of Bisping, in his next fight, in the same way Anderson got Forrest and that went down as one of GSP's best wins, as it did for Anderson??? While both Bisping and Forrest had similar trajectories in their divisions, at least GSP took Bisping out at the very peak of his Prime in the midst of his best ever win streak over his biggest named opponents, also in their Primes and not like a drugged out, depressed Forrest after a brutal KO and on his way to retirement.
 
Hypetrainofthemonth said:
Lmfaooooo!

<Dany07>

I can't believe that guy of all people on Sherdog told someone else to, "get a hobby", hahahahah, its always funny that the ones who double down on a illogical opinion, and incorrectly stating it as a " fact" are the ones who are unable to see the irony & hypocrisy of their statements.

You do you know you're responding to someone whose known to double down on incorrect &/or illogical subjects, simply because he believes his feelings and emotions somehow make something factual. Also somebody who likes to disguise discussion as arguments that he thinks he's good at arguing or defending of his opinions. Also someone who plays Mr. KnowItAll, ignoring any & all of the evidence used against him, as in his mind, only his evidence matters/counts.

{<jordan}


You're pretty much better off trying to have a logical discussion with a literal brickwalls, as you'd probably get farther in a conversation/discussion/argument with one of those, than you will with him.


By all means, continue on with'em though, I never grow tired with the giggles I get when he responds with an absurd excuse as to why his view is always the "best"

<36>
<Oku02>
<{yahyou}>
<{Heymansnicker}>
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Ya I've seen his prior posts on this topic.

All emotion and not one ounce of defensible logic. Just Anderson nuthuggery and GSP hate, at every instance, with the same spamming of the prior debunked material over and over..
 
Mack McMarkles said:
So his Takase loss, his Chonan loss and his Okami loss all need to be added which means of the GOAT candidates he has the greatest amount losses during his prime consideration years for his GOAT resume.
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Let's not forget losing to LW nobody Luiz Azaredo, a fight people like to pretend never happened.

If the win over Sakurai a year later counts, then that loss sure does too!
 
TR1 said:
Let's not forget losing to LW nobody Luiz Azaredo, a fight people like to pretend never happened.

If the win over Sakurai a year later counts, then that loss sure does too!
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well I was trying to be super generous to the Anderson fanatics who are also GSP haters.

Many of them highlight GSPs losses to Hughes and Serra and say that is a strike on his GOAT resume, while they also argue Anderson's losses to Takase and Chonan should not count as that was not in his prime, and his Prime was his UFC MW run. But then the same people often want to bolster Anderson's resume by adding in his wins at WW. So I am being super generous to Anderson then in saying 'ok, well your run begins with Saku, we can pretend that is when your prime began, and those fights count but so then does losses to Takase and Chonan which came after that and before his UFC run.
 
Both are the GOATs.
None are above one another.
Only 2 men at the top of the mountain.
GOAT Jones & GOAT Fedor Baby!!!
 
Wow a 2004 account thinks Fedor is the GOAT i'm so shocked right now.
 
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