All Time GOAT poll

Captain Herb said:
Belfort was on legal trt during that period (like it or not) and wasn't busted for anything. Sonnen was as big a roid head as Jones.
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Not true. Belfort was busted in PRIDE in 2006 for 4-hydroxytestosterone (anabolic steroids) which explains why he required TRT later in his career. If he had been clean there would be no need for TRT. TRT clearly gave him a fighting advantage over competition. It was obvious that it helped him. Look at his body while taking TRT and after he could no longer take it.
 
BFoe said:
But in that cocaine test, Jones’ T levels were suspiciously low, indicative of having done a cycle. Later, Jones popped for letrazole and clomiphene, also indicative of having done a cycle. Then the failure for turinabol, the multiple times “pulsing”…. It’s obvious that Jones has been a cheat for a very long time.
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They only looked suspicious to people pulling rabbits out of empty hats. I remember people saying DC's values looked suspicious for the same pre-fight tests.
 
BFoe said:
Except in Jones’ case, that hat is far from empty. That hat is full of letdazole, clomiphene, turinabol, then picos of turinabol…all kinds of stuff.
It was quite a bit different situation than Cormier’s test.
https://www.sherdog.com/news/news/V...Levels-Before-UFC-182-Highly-Suspicious-80631
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People need to put food on the table so of course they are going to attempt to pull the rabbit out of the empty hat to draw in readers to a story. He wasn't busted because he wasn't guilty.
 
SherdogFan23 said:
People need to put food on the table so of course they are going to attempt to pull the rabbit out of the empty hat to draw in readers to a story. He wasn't busted because he wasn't guilty.
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Of course, those steroids and those steroid picos and those PCT drugs must’ve gotten there by pure chance. Maybe he was framed. Perhaps it was some sort of witchcraft, and his being suspended by USADA was some sort of terrible mistake. And to be left pulsing with steroids for months and years to come, unlike every other athlete that’s ever been busted—what terrible luck!
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BFoe said:
Of course, those steroids and those steroid picos and those PCT drugs must’ve gotten there by pure chance. Maybe he was framed. Perhaps it was some sort of witchcraft, and his being suspended by USADA was some sort of terrible mistake. And to be left pulsing with steroids for months and years to come, unlike every other athlete that’s ever been busted—what terrible luck!
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You are confusing people trying to make money off of something versus an agency that simply looks at the data. Of course people making money are going to exaggerate the data as much as possible.

He clearly was guilty later in his career when his life got complicated, but he was never found to have steroids during his prime. Sorry but as much as you hate him, your magic fails miserably.
 
SherdogFan23 said:
Not true. Belfort was busted in PRIDE in 2006 for 4-hydroxytestosterone (anabolic steroids) which explains why he required TRT later in his career. If he had been clean there would be no need for TRT. TRT clearly gave him a fighting advantage over competition. It was obvious that it helped him. Look at his body while taking TRT and after he could no longer take it.
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I think if you read your post again and my response it will make sense. It is true that Belfort didn't "get busted" for anything during the period you were talking about. Jon should have played it smart and gotten some trt too.
 
Dbreiden83080 said:
All that holds Jones back from GOAT status is this.. Now if he comes back to win at HW and defends a few times maybe it changes.. But some will never crown him..
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Me lol. I’ll never crown him, his whole career is just too suspect to me.
 
Tony Robbins’ Trampoline said:
Having Johnson over Aldo is dishespetchful. He beat mainly men equivalents of soccer moms.
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Timothé432 said:
its true
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Not true.
Benavidez, Horiguchi, Cejudo or Dodson are about as skilled as anybody Aldo ever fought.
In fact, they were competitive at the top of the very stacked BW, whereas its not so sure Mendes, Faber, Lamas or KZ would be that much at LW.

To call soccer momsthe fighters Johnson beat for the tittle is embarrasingly ignorant.
 
 
pankrat said:
- Official sherdog p4p rankings during GSP championship years:

2012 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-45047

2011 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-36383

2010 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-23166

2009 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-17145

2008 - Silva #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/GSP-Moves-Up-P4P-List-But-Not-to-Top-12459



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2010 GSP p4p #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-28930

2011 GSP p4p #1
https://www.sherdog.com/news/rankings/Sherdogcoms-PoundforPound-Top-10-31030

GOAT rankings :

GSP #1
https://www.tapology.com/rankings/top-ten-all-time-greatest-mma-and-ufc-fighters

GSP #1
https://mmasucka.com/2020/06/02/goat-of-mma/

GSP #1
https://www.fightmatrix.com/all-time-mma-rankings/all-time-absolute/

GSP #1 tied with Khabib
https://www.givemesport.com/1672105-mcgregor-khabib-jones-stpierre-nunes-ufc-goat-contenders-ranked

GSP #1 tied with Jones
https://www.sportbible.com/ufc/news-ufc-and-mma-fighters-ranked-from-goat-to-not-a-fighter-20201121

Latest GOAT poll conducted among fighters (survey among 170 mma fighters) : GSP #1
https://theathletic.com/1856943/2020/06/05/fighters-vote-mma-goat-pound-for-pound-best/

Sherdog's all time goat poll : GSP #1
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/all-time-goat-poll.3916359/page-232#post-167971276
 
Aljamain Sterling! He made the right decision. Anthony Smith could be really rich.

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My money's on GSP.

Cleaned out the division without ever testing positive for a banned substance in a stacked division.

If Jones had done that he'd be #1 by light years.
 
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