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All Time GOAT poll

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Tachy, Feb 23, 2019.

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Who is the current GOAT

  1. GSP

    35.2%
  2. Fedor

    26.2%
  3. Silva

    8.8%
  4. Jones

    21.8%
  5. Johnson

    1.5%
  6. Other

    5.4%
  7. Aldo

    1.1%
  1. TheAmericanGazelle Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    Oh wow, you're a troll that's not totally boring and tedious.

    Good one. I'm emotional as fuck reading your post.
     
  2. Cpt Migraine Never out of likes..

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    That av is actually really distracting..
     
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  3. Cpt Migraine Never out of likes..

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    This account is shared by conor haters.. they take turns keeping a dead body alive..
     
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  4. Bend NvR Break Order to Chaos. Chaos to Order.

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    You might not realize but by postiy what you're saying people know you're BSing.

    Just get it through your head that Khabib isn't LW goat.

    GSP legit cheated to beat BJ in the first fight.
    BJ beat Frankie in the first fight.
    THERE'S NO SHAME WHATSOEVER IN LOSING TO MATT FUCKING HUGHES. AND HE'S 2-1 AGAINST HUGHES.
     
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  5. Bend NvR Break Order to Chaos. Chaos to Order.

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    You mean vice versa.

    People that ran Khabib above him think that if Khabib would've fought until he's 40 he'd be 50-0.
     
  6. Benoitthegr8 Chasing the Dragon Platinum Member

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    It’s ridiculous to try to compare careers of fighters that had such different paths, you’re bound to become emotionally incapable and shit on one or both for career deficiencies, in reality both men lack certain elements of greatness. Neither one has any business being in any GOAT discussions, besides their exploits at the 155 lb weight class period.
     
  7. TheAmericanGazelle Double Yellow Card Double Yellow Card

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    No, we don't.

    You can cut off BJ's career at the age Khabib retired. IIRC it was 16-7 with three losses at a common weight (LW, IIRC his LW record was 8-3), and similar levels of dominance peak-to-peak. FFS, Khabib barely lost a *round*, let alone multiple fights. Top wins are at worst...comparable.

    Holding BJ over Khabib as a martial artist is basically "glory days syndrome" and boomerism to the nth degree.

    Khabib doesn't have a case for overall GOAT because his tenure was too short and volume of accomplishment too small, but he is 100 percent above BJ within LW with zero debate among people that are objective.
     
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  8. Egészségére! Brown Belt

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    BJ fought half his career in four other weight classes and did things like choke out the future ufc ww champ and beat Renzo at LHW

    I still don’t think he’s goat but it’s complicated because he did goat level things that Khabib & others didn’t do
     
  9. WHITE ANDERSON Banned Banned

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    bj penn won belts in two different weight classes
    he beat matt hughest, one of the best WW champs of all time

    khabib was so terrified of fighting men his own size that he literally almost died cutting weight

    neither fighter is in GOAT discussion but BJ penn is much higher than khabib
     
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  10. Taric Gold Belt

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    BJ is 11-4-1 at LW with 4 UFC LW championships so he is absolutely in the LW GOAT conversation.

    BJ is 1-5-1 at WW and 0-4 at FW. He just wasn't good at those weight classes but that has nothing to do with his LW record.
     
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    I am not the biggest BJ fan but he has almost twenty years in the game while being in the big leagues even when he was hiatus from the UFC. Khabib has 8 years in the UFC with a 2 year break in the middle due to injuries. He is very dominant but he left the game early. I do understand why he left so Islam can come up.

    When BJ ran out of contenders to fight; he moved up to challenge for the WW title. I do admit BJ did tarnish his legacy a bit by not taking the game serious and perhaps staying around a little too long. He attempted to reach the next level while Khabib said I can't fight Usman he is my brother.
     
  12. tymikeson Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    if he would have retired after he koed hughes in their trilogy fight he would be considered a GOAT. But sadly , fighting on and taking in another 8 losses in a row after he was past his best cant help but bring his legacy down.

    its similar to roy jones jr. if he had retired after he beat tarver by unanimous decision, he would be considered top 3 all time. but he fought on, was koed 10 times and is now fringe top 20 alltime. he tarnished his legacy.

    those downward spirals leave a lasting impression.

    i love penn, so im no hater

    penns career highlights:

    First fighter to win a ufc title in 2 different divisions (welterweight and lightweight)
    tied for the record for most lightweight title defenses.

    *note: before his 8 fight slide when he was well past his prime, his only losses were to former ufc champions:
    GSP *2
    Hughes
    jens pulver
    edgar*2
    machida

    *note: how would kabib have faired if he faced prime GSP twice at 170lbs, prime Hughes 3 times at 170lbs, and 205 machida?
    that easily could have conceivably been 6 losses. Even the fiesty ferret edgar would have given kabib fits.
     
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    I always wanted to say this to someone: casual
     
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    Was it those skills and combination of skills that helped him lose to Frankie fucking Edgar multiple times, just stop.
     
  15. mmadeewana Brown Belt

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    guys just like to shit on Khabib for his beliefs so they made BJ Penn greater than him. But but he fought at weltweight and lose most of those matches,but but Machida heavyweight that too lost. {<BJPeen}
    Lost to GSP
    {<BJPeen}
    Lost to Frankie Edgar 3 times
    {<BJPeen}
     
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    Noted
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    They got it wrong. I had it Penn 4-1. Outlanded Frankie and defended twelve of thirteen takedown attempts. He should have been on to Maynard next. Blatant robbery.
     
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    Correct.
     
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  20. mmathurbator Green Belt

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    those first two with frankie were not one sided. the second one was somewhat one sided but most people thought that BJ won the first one. frankie won via appearing to be more active to the judges and getting takedowns, which bj just got right back up from after receiving zero damage.
     

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