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All Time GOAT poll

Discussion in 'UFC Discussion' started by Tachy, Feb 23, 2019.

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Who is the current GOAT

  1. GSP

    35.2%
  2. Fedor

    26.2%
  3. Silva

    8.8%
  4. Jones

    21.8%
  5. Johnson

    1.5%
  6. Other

    5.4%
  7. Aldo

    1.1%
  1. Brom Bones Brown Belt

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    I generally agree with most of what you're saying except the first Edgar fight was somewhat close, but I think he clearly won that fight.

    Also, if he would have retired right after being shafted, he rightly would have been in the discussion. He totally tainted his legacy with all the shit that happened after that fight.

    Guy had all the skills, just didn't take diet and training as seriously as he should have until he started to decline in a major way.
     
  2. AnotherOldGuy Black Belt

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    Your first sentence contradicts your headline -- if a lot of people are saying Penn is a GOAT candidate then by definition he's part of the conversation.
     
  3. Hatorade Purple Belt

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    BJ would have beat Sakuraba in a fight at 170 or 155 IMO.

    170 lb Sakuraba getting a win over Vitor was pretty damn impressive, but Saukuraba was around 185lbs and on da juice when he fought Randleman and Rampage. He was giving up size, but not ridiculous amounts, and he wasn't really giving up any height at all. He was also subbing MMA pioneers that had little to no submission defense at that time, which is why his win over Vitor who always had BJJ was more impressive IMO. With that said, none of Saukuraba's wins are as impressive as BJ going to a split decision with prime GSP (the GOAT) and beating prime Matt Hughes while giving up almost 20lbs of pure muscle IMO.
     
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  4. JKS 77+&--#rT....

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    LOL, BJ isn't even ahead of Ben Henderson at LW goat rankings, never mind Khabib

    BJ at LW is 11-3-1, Khabib is 28-0 and Khabib has beaten better competition without question. Even if you compare their UFC records, Khabib is more impressive. BJ wasn't even the best LW in either of his UFC runs. Khabib was clearly the best.
     
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  5. LoveHateLove Green Belt

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    BJ had the balls to fight multiple times at 1 to 2 weight classes up. None of the Khabob type lay n pray artists would do that today.

    BJ is the lw goat
     
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  6. r-harper-1 Gold Belt

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    Bj one of my favourites…..I put in top 25
     
  7. TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle Brown Belt

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    Hes not in actual GOAT contention as he was way too inconsistent, but he is an ATG. When he was on form he could be an absolute terror - athletic, well rounded and one of the scariest guys you could have standing across from you at 155.
     
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  8. GordoBarraBJJ Titanium Belt

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    Except we don't and only a moron would mention that in regards to his mma record.

    But I agree - he is not in the GOAT discussion. At one time he was but that was around 2007 - 2009. Then he got lazy and it went downhill from there.

    And now he's another former ufc fighters who's gone down the rabbit hole and is now ranting about vaccines and mah human rights.
     
  9. MMAcolyte Black Belt

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    Not a robbery. I still remember waiting for that decision to be announced cus me and my buddies were in disbelief that Penn might lose. And sure enough he did. He knew it too.
     
  10. r-harper-1 Gold Belt

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    Jones
    Gsp
    Anderson
    Fedor

    I really don’t think anyone else is eligible…..Aldo and Mighty Mouse I could tolerate
     
  11. Mmmmmmma1234 Silver Belt

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    Khabib himself says BJ was the best LW. So...
     
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  12. PunchyMcSplodo Yellow Belt

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    Penn's only wins above LW are against a single person, Matt Hughes, who was only 15 lbs above his weight class. Sakuraba beat multiple monsters who were that much bigger and more.


    He was almost definitely not on the juice when he fought Rampage and Randleman, since that muscle gain happened for the later Shamrock fight (and after his body was a mess at that point).

    I don't think he was 185 lbs for those, but if he was, it was no different than when BJ got chubby and 190 lbs for the Machida fight. It wasn't really functional mass--the dude was a WW.
     
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  13. Hatorade Purple Belt

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    He weighed 186lbs in his fight with page and 183lbs in his fight with Randelman. Page weighed 202lbs I could not find Randlman's weight.

    Sakuraba was more solid at 186lbs than BJ was at 168lbs. Sakuraba would fight at 155 and BJ would fight at 145 if they were fighting in 2021. Sakuraba was a natural 170 but was on the juice for sure in PRIDE.
     
  14. PunchyMcSplodo Yellow Belt

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    Where are you getting these weights? 202 for Rampage during an open weight fight where cutting wasn't necessary is sus as hell, and Randleman usually fought as HW regardless.


    Your second sentence contradicts your first one, and the first isn't really supported by any concrete evidence or even the eye test.

    Sakuraba was known for not being on anything until later on by even most fellow fighters in Pride AFAIK, so I'd need some receipts.

    Either way, Page, Vitor, and Randleman were certainly on all the steroids, so...
     
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    GSP
     
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  16. koquerelle Yellow Card Yellow Card

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    Tachy should get double yellow for the title with pleonasm.
     
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    this isn’t actually relevant to lightweight tho lol
     
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  19. AndersonSilva23 Orange Belt

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    Jones is really hurting his legacy, probably won’t fight for a while.

    1. GSP
    2. Jones
    3. Silva
    4. Fedor
    5. Khabib
     
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    If Marty beats Colby in dominant fashion does this mean he replaces GSP in the poll cause it honestly should. Volk and Khabib should be in this poll as well def over Aldo. Stipe should be in over Fedor etc.
     
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