All Time GOAT poll

If GSP wasn't Canadian or a nice guy noone would consider him the Goat.
 
Meh. Fedor, Anderson, Jones and GSP are the Mount Rushmore for now. You can make a solid case for all of them.

Fedor and Anderson did have more of an aura about them than the other two though, although Jones and GSP fought stronger competition.
 
In HW u dont have the error margin u have at Lw or ww, not to mention at FlyW. U commit a mistake and its night night, much more easy to get caught. A long run at HW is more difficult to achieve. IMO.
 
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Jones is the one true GOAT.

GSP tapped to strikes and lost in his Prime.

GOATS DON’T TAP TO STRIKES

Fedor didn’t fight the best half the time and there was no testing in Pride…so he should automatically be disqualified if you’re going on past pops and drug records
 
100 % facts fedor hw silva mw gsp ww goats of all time. Let somone beat there records and streaks to even be conisdered.

Jbj 205 goat
Penn lw goat

Nobodys beaten thier records

Khabib no thanks guy was did great in his division while he competed but came up short when he left his reign tied penn in title defences

Was undefeated...owell he only had 14 or 15 fights in the ufc not many of them top 5
He never moved up to challenge ww champ (since he was so good) never tested himself.


Penn competed 185 and 205 in his prime. And wasnt an overblown or the biggest lw in his division.
 
GSP. Never had to take off time in between defences to fight cans. Pressure was always on. Fought the best. Never popped for the juice. Retired as champ twice at two different weight classes. GOAT.
 
pankrat said:
And they do so in size disadvantage more often than the other GOAT candidates
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I think they do both have a "specialness" to them that GSP for example doesnt, whether you value that for GOAT discussion is I spose questionable but I did get more of a feeling of watching something unique with them.
 
Fedor will always be the GOAT in my eyes. Anderson Silva is also a legend.
 
moreorless87 said:
I think they do both have a "specialness" to them that GSP for example doesnt, whether you value that for GOAT discussion is I spose questionable but I did get more of a feeling of watching something unique with them.
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I personally feel that way but it's highly subjective so not a factor to bring in GOAT discussion imo.

For example, you could argue that the way GSP blends his long-range striking into his shots was "unique" in his own way, if only for his incredible timing. Or the way he outwrestled elite wrestlers without having a wrestling base himself.

What it is far more objective is that he didnt have as much ability - and willingness - at pulling off finishing techniques - or even trully threatening - and that's a huge factor in combat sports imo for obvious reasons.

It's also objective that he was never the smaller man in a fight, except maybe vs Hendricks (who beat him in most people eyes) and Bisping.
 
I've always thought GSP was the GOAT, but there is still Old Vitor and Motivated Penn. Like Prime Tyson, these are mythical, unbeatable figures.

But like unicorns, they never existed in the real world, only imaginary thoughts in those who wanted to believe in them.
 
Humongo said:
Without getting into who is GOAT and who isn't, I think there is one thing Anderson and Fedor have over the others and is they both have spectacular finishes that come out of nowhere, where you feel like you've just watched a magic trick or something. The other candidates look more like they control and gameplan their opponents, while Silva/Fedor fights are like "wait for it, wait for it, wait for it.... BOOOM"
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This is a great point. It's not just finishing, but that no matter what is taking place, a finish can come from anywhere. Always looking to end a fight and always capable of something crazy.
 
Lee_ said:
I've always thought GSP was the GOAT, but there is still Old Vitor and Motivated Penn. Like Prime Tyson, these are mythical, unbeatable figures.

But like unicorns, they never existed in the real world, only imaginary thoughts in those who wanted to believe in them.
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BJ is the guy that being the size of a FW arguably beat your GOAT, who is a WW. So not a unicorn.
 
pankrat said:
BJ is the guy that being the size of a FW arguably beat your GOAT, who is a WW. So not a unicorn.
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BJ is not a FW nor did he have any success there.

"Arguably beat GSP". Only argued by guys who don't know how fights are scored.
 
ThunderStruck said:
BJ is not a FW nor did he have any success there.
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Yet another simpleton take from Mr, Fanboy

BJ weighted below 170lbs for his WW fights, just like some FWs today.
And he still very arguably beat your idol, a big WW.
Its what it is.
Now hide under some stat and keep sucking siss
 
pankrat said:
Yet another simpleton take from Mr, Fanboy

BJ weighted below 170lbs for his WW fights, just like some FWs today.
And he still very arguably beat your idol, a big WW.
Its what it is.
Now hide under some stat and keep sucking siss
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He was 173 vs GSP. Straight from the horse mouth. Get your facts straight, noob.

Tell me how did you score that fight. There is no argument that Penn won. Clear 29-28.
 
ThunderStruck said:
He was 173 vs GSP. Straight from the horse mouth. Get your facts straight, noob.

Tell me how did you score that fight. There is no argument that Penn won. Clear 29-28.
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173 and carrying some extra fat? You basically confirmed what I said
 
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