Alex vs Tom needs to be done!!

[Luffy]

UFC fighters can't bet, homie.

It was done for fun. Not real money. It was a backstage video of Tom and Sean both playing by making their bets on how each fight of UFC 300 would go, writing their bets on a paper. Not literal money, homie

 

[Myrddin Wild]

I mean, teh 3rd & 5th could've gone either way when Poatan lost his belt, & teh 4th was also close. After teh fight, everyone waz disputing each side of teh controversial decision.

Granted, it could be said that Tom would do better... since he'z heavier... but his fat ass could get KTFO too.

Just saying that using Ank's win is extremely nuanced & so we shouldn't put too much weight into our speculation on what could be done by Poatan at full weight.

 

[KO Shotz]

I'm all for champion vs champion & super fights, but it's starting to become a thing where guys win gold, beat one or two guys in their division, & start feeling entitled to super fights before clearing out their division while not letting their division be active & relevant. Champion vs champion & super fights are big time money, but it can also stunt the growth of a division & or divisions. It also creates a division & or divisions to become stagnant. Like I said, I'm all for super fights, but when it's the correct timing for them.

 

[Luffy]

I'm all for champion vs champion & super fights, but it's starting to become a thing where guys win gold, beat one or two guys in their division, & start feeling entitled to super fights before clearing out their division while not letting their division be active & relevant. Champion vs champion & super fights are big time money, but it can also stunt the growth of a division & or divisions. It also creates a division & or divisions to become stagnant. Like I said, I'm all for super fights, but when it's the correct timing for them.

Well, that's why it's better to do that when not with a belt. If Alex says, he wouldn't have cleaned out his division either way. There will be new contenders. Alex Pereira moved to LHW when he lost to Adesanya. He didn't hold a belt. It's fair for the division to move up when passing the torch.

 

[Tweak896]

I like the fight, but unless Alex is champ, he needs to do what he did at LHW. Beat a top 5 guy atleast, could even be someone like Gane, then call for this fight.

 

[KO Shotz]

Well, that's why it's better to do that when not with a belt. If Alex says, he wouldn't have cleaned out his division either way. There will be new contenders. Alex Pereira moved to LHW when he lost to Adesanya. He didn't hold a belt. It's fair for the division to move up when passing the torch.

I see what you're saying but these past few years it's like the solution to things is super fights & having guys jump around divisions. They need to go back to building divisions & contenders instead of leaning on the crutch of super fights. Tom vs Alex would be a draw yes, but it wouldn't be a solution for the UFC HW division. Instead of focusing on moving Pereira up to HW after his next fight win or lose, they need to focus on gaining contenders & making the HW's active & relevant again.

 

[Luffy]

I see what you're saying but these past few years it's like the solution to things is super fights & having guys jump around divisions. They need to go back to building divisions & contenders instead of leaning on the crutch of super fights. Tom vs Alex would be a draw yes, but it wouldn't be a solution for the UFC HW division. Instead of focusing on moving Pereira up to HW after his next fight win or lose, they need to focus on gaining contenders & making the HW's active & relevant again.

They'd won't do it since there's no active HW. You can't bring a solution when there's just no prospect in HW. Alex fulfilled what he had to do at 205. He will go to HW. There's nothing stop a fighter from going up a class specially when they don't have the belt. That's more than fair. Alex can fight Tom, JJ, maybe Ankalaev can move up if he wants as he teased to by posting his weight right after Alex posted his weight. Maybe Ngannou can come back. But there's no active fighter right now in the upper divisions barring Alex, Ankalaev and Jiri. And Alex is honestly imo the best fighter right now.

Tom vs Gane won't be a draw. Ngannou isn't coming back for now. Tom beat up most of top 10. There's nothing there. I'd rather see Alex having the chance to beat Tom and then, JJ's team said they'd be open for a super fight... Outside that, you won't get much. Tom said he has 4 fights left... Alex Pereira and Glover said they plan to fight for the UFC for 3 more years at least, with Glover saying Alex is in a better shape than he was at his age and can push even plus 42, saying he's build differently... Even tho he's 38, some guys are special. Even tho he's y years older than Tom, the way they speak makes it clear Alex plans on having more fights than Tom, who said "my career is closer to the end" ...

 

[Luffy]

And when Alex comes back, I think he will be hard to be stopped again. He's a rare case in which it seems he improves the more he fights... He said he's still improving....

 

[Luffy]

 

[mkess101]

And when Alex comes back, I think he will be hard to be stopped again. He's a rare case in which it seems he improves the more he fights... He said he's still improving....

Most fighters say they're getting worse as they train. Interesting that Alex would claim training makes him better.

 

[Luffy]

Most fighters say they're getting worse as they train. Interesting that Alex would claim training makes him better.

Yes. Just like he was better in the second fight vs Jiri than in the first. He's one of the rare ones who gets better. And Tom isn't the biggest threat to Jones, that's Alex right there. But JJ will fight both as well as Alex

 

[mkess101]

Yes. Just like he was better in the second fight vs Jiri than in the first. He's one of the rare ones who gets better. And Tom isn't the biggest threat to Jones, that's Alex right there. But JJ will fight both as well as Alex

Yes? Most guys train to get worse? Man, they should relax and stop killing themselves at the gym! Play video games. Lay on the beach. Screw training camps and all that nonsense if it's just gonna make them worse fighters!

 

[Luffy]

Yes? Most guys train to get worse? Man, they should relax and stop killing themselves at the gym! Play video games. Lay on the beach. Screw training camps and all that nonsense if it's just gonna make them worse fighters!

Well, I'm saying Alex is still getting better at 38. You said training makes one worse ironically but most fighters get worst with wear and tear of being punched over and over. I'm saying Pereira is one of those genetic freaks that doesn't make sense under normal patterns, age etc...

 

[ShadowRun]

Alex would knock out Tom pretty easily

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Thinly veiled Tom hate thread from one of our resident Jon cultists.

 

[Luffy]

I like the fight, but unless Alex is champ, he needs to do what he did at LHW. Beat a top 5 guy atleast, could even be someone like Gane, then call for this fight.

Of course not. He's a superstar. No HW is calling for the fight. Not even Gane was. Dana had said regardless that win or lose, he would fight straight for the belt. It doesn't make sense for the superstar to find some top 5 HW who 1) he'd defeat easily and 2) is not even calling to fight Tom... Jailton Almeida said he'd like for Pereira to get the belt there at HW, even... HW is deader than WW right now, so even in LHW Poatan just needed one fight to fight for the belt, it's been said if he goes HW, he's in the title picture already, vs Tom or Gane. Ofc his goal is to get to JJ... That's why he has been calling for Tom for a long time. But that fight will happen regardless, Pereira and Tom Aspinall will go down before than the rematch vs Ank most likely, considering Jiri is the back up fighter, which would make no sense as Pereira never had a back up fighter. Tom vs Alex is inevitable.

 

[Luffy]

Thinly veiled Tom hate thread from one of our resident Jon cultists.

It's not... I'd rather Alex didn't fight JJ as I believe JJ beats Tom, but Alex would be literally 50/50 or slightly Alex... I just don't follow the hype and can see that Alex Pereira is likely to beat Tom based off their abilities shown up to now.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

I just don't follow the hype and can see that Alex Pereira is likely to beat Tom based off their abilities shown up to now.

So you think Tom would take 4 rounds to deal with Khalil Rountree, go the distance with Bruno Silva, get knocked out cold by Izzy and have a close fight with 40 year old Jan?

 

[Luffy]

So you think Tom would take 4 rounds to deal with Khalil Rountree, go the distance with Bruno Silva and get knocked out cold by Izzy?

Well, if he made MW weight, then yes. Alex didn't fight at his natural weight vs them. Duh

It's the same as saying what if DDP drops to lightweight...

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Well, if he made MW weight, then yes. Alex didn't fight at his natural weight vs them. Duh

It's the same as saying what if DDP drops to lightweight...

In other words he was trying to give himself additional advantages by cutting to a lower weight class where he would have exceptional size, strength and power?

And this make you think he would beat Tom?