International Active US Air Force member self-immolates outside Israel Embassy in Washington

TheMaster said:
No.
Given what he went through, he deserves the respect of being clear about what he chose to die for and in that manner.
He was not mentally ill, he was aghast at what he saw as the military being complicit in war crimes and wanted to take a stand against it.


I agree it wasn't the best way to launch a protest, but he obviously felt powerless to do anything and you can't really disagree with him. He felt this was a way of making a statement that would make an impact and be remembered, like the famous Vietnamese monk self immolation.
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How on earth do you see burning yourself to death as a protest? How do you connect the two?
 
USA!USA! said:
Not sure how selfish it is to literally light yourself on fire, scream for Palestine and burn until you eventually pass out and die

If he wanted to be selfish, there are much quicker and easier ways to go out

I'm not defending what he did as he was legitimately crazy - but that is not a selfish way to go lolol
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Yeah I dunno think we’ll see it differently. It’s selfish to me, because he had a wife and child. He killed himself to gain notoriety for a cause in which is legitimately unaffiliated and is not effected directly by. His family gains no benefit from his death, just a fatherless child and people left to mourn and question his suicide.

Certainly it’s a wicked way to do yourself in but I think it’s akin to, “look at me, look at what I’m doing.”

But no doubt this image will be burned into our memories for sometime. To what ends? I don’t know.
 
This whole event is so upsetting, on lots of levels.

Jjust makes me confused about the world my daughter has been born into.
 
Mike Hagger said:
Yeah I dunno think we’ll see it differently. It’s selfish to me, because he had a wife and child. He killed himself to gain notoriety for a cause in which is legitimately unaffiliated and is not effected directly by. His family gains no benefit from his death, just a fatherless child and people left to mourn and question his suicide.

Certainly it’s a wicked way to do yourself in but I think it’s akin to, “look at me, look at what I’m doing.”

But no doubt this image will be burned into our memories for sometime. To what ends? I don’t know.
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Keep seeing this "wife and child" thing with zero sources for it
 
Mike Hagger said:
Ok.

First link that was not an ad on google

www.newsunzip.com

Did Aaron Bushnell Have Any Children? Son, Daughter, Spouse & Parents

Aaron Bushnell was a 25-year-old US Air Force engineer who shocked the world when he set himself on fire outside the Israeli embassy in Washington, D.C. on
www.newsunzip.com www.newsunzip.com

Are you saying people are lying about his family?
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Bro relax I'm just saying I haven't seen it in any articles that I read and this one page from some random website is the only place I've seen it said besides in comments. Been asking for a few days and this is the first someone provided, and numerous sites are explicitly denying that he has a wife and kids. Why you gotta be hostile?

Edit: And are you insinuating that GASP people on the internet LIE???? Holy shit bruh...
 
DarthChen731 said:
Bro relax I'm just saying I haven't seen it in any articles that I read and this one page from some random website is the only place I've seen it said besides in comments. Been asking for a few days and this is the first someone provided, and numerous sites are explicitly denying that he has a wife and kids. Why you gotta be hostile?

Edit: And are you insinuating that GASP people on the internet LIE???? Holy shit bruh...
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I dunno dude, not even sure why you thought my response was hostile. Literally took the time to google some shit for you. You should be thankful while I was a taking a shit I did research for you. Not just anyone gets that treatment my Sherdog bro.
 
Mike Hagger said:
I dunno dude, not even sure why you thought my response was hostile. Literally took the time to google some shit for you. You should be thankful while I was a taking a shit I did research for you. Not just anyone gets that treatment my Sherdog bro.
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I've Googled it multiple times and continually found nothing besides the same shitty shady website you sent me. Idk why you're being a dick and assumed I hadn't done the simplest thing ever.
 
DarthChen731 said:
I've Googled it multiple times and continually found nothing besides the same shitty shady website you sent me. Idk why you're being a dick and assumed I hadn't done the simplest thing ever.
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I honestly was not trying to be a dick. Sorry. I’m already over this story, I probably won’t circle back to confirm if the wife and kids are BS. He wasted his life and his ends is as an Internet meme.
 
Fox by the Sea said:
Bro his dad was the worst kind of covid retard.

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No wonder this guy was a dumb ass lib {<jordan}
 
spamking said:
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Looks like veteran's dont consider him to be 'mentally ill'. Just like they dont consider veteran suicide in general to be simply mental illness but rather a consequence of guilt and trauma. They've been there and done that so they understand.

spamking said:
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A lot of these points are valid left leaning positions to take. Aka being against settler colonial genocide and wanting for reparations. How would you like it if you were genocided, and have your land taken?

His other opinions about society and marriage etc dont need to necessarily be agreed with, or somehow discredit his self sacrifice act of protest.
 
TheMaster said:
Looks like veteran's dont consider him to be 'mentally ill'. Just like they dont consider veteran suicide in general to be simply mental illness but rather a consequence of guilt and trauma. They've been there and done that so they understand.
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Does "Oaklahumans Against Occupation" sound like a veterans group to you?

....and I'm the stupid enlisted man....at least I can read...
 
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Thrawn33 said:
Does "Oaklahumans Against Occupation" sound like a veterans group to you?

....and I'm the stupid enlisted man....at least I can read...
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Veterans Against the War is a thing
 
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