International Active US Air Force member self-immolates outside Israel Embassy in Washington

[TheMaster]

There's a difference between being in the military/police force vs commiting suicide because you're a member of a cult church and having a mental disability

Its extremely mentally weak, or just outright denial, to pretend that you can only understand people sacrificing their lives to kill others (military) but not sacrificing their lives out of guilt and to make a stand against people being wrongfully killed in your name by that military.

 

[MTT]

I haven't followed this after the initial day, but I heard the talk of his church. If it's the Church of the Transfiguration, I recommend taking the tour. It's an impressive structure in a blissful location. You'll find good food.

 

[tastaylvr]

The goal shouldn't be dying....

How could he win the war? Most of you have never been in these situations before since you live in the west.

Nobody has had to face true desperation. I guess it's just part of the times living in a coddled society.

 

[Islam Imamate]

This is why I keep coming back to this stupid thread: for the dark jokes.

Wow you also appreciate dark humor? I didn't think we had that in common.

 

[Islam Imamate]

It all depends on his moral character and his capacity to have done this for selfless love. If that's what his kids find when they look deeper and deeper as adults then the outcome will most likely be positive.

If this was done with moral power behind him, then his children will most likely grow up to admire him and see their father as someone who sacrificed himself for a greater cause and who knew great love.

It's not like we don't have historical examples of martyrs who have made profound differences in the people around them.

He could've done a lot more good alive than dead I think. I understand self-immolation if you live under tyranny and have no other option but this guy's death was senseless.

 

[William Munny]

if it hasn't been said already, this guy was an antisemtic piece of shit.

this is great news. hopefully more Hamas fanboys follow suit.

 

[Chad R. Thundercock]

Wow you also appreciate dark humor? I didn't think we had that in common.

No. Just no. Are you? Are you implying the dark jokes in this thread are just as hilarious as the "root for Hamas" post? This ain't it, bud. Let's just drop the subject here.

 

[Islam Imamate]

No. Just no. Are you? Are you implying the dark jokes in this thread are just as hilarious as the "root for Hamas" post? This ain't it, bud. Let's just drop the subject here.

Just pointing out that its good to know you appreciate dark humor

 

[Deleted member 577981]

He could've done a lot more good alive than dead I think. I understand self-immolation if you live under tyranny and have no other option but this guy's death was senseless.

I just feel like that's a kind of judgment that comes from assuming we know the ends of all things. I don't think human beings are capable of that kind of knowledge.

In general, I think it's unwarranted to make that kind of assumption about his actions and the good it will or won't do in the world.

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

It all depends on his moral character and his capacity to have done this for selfless love. If that's what his kids find when they look deeper and deeper as adults then the outcome will most likely be positive.

If this was done with moral power behind him, then his children will most likely grow up to admire him and see their father as someone who sacrificed himself for a greater cause and who knew great love.

It's not like we don't have historical examples of martyrs who have made profound differences in the people around them.

His kids will see his church was a cult unless they too have already been brainwashed

 

[D 1 Wrestler]

Its extremely mentally weak, or just outright denial, to pretend that you can only understand people sacrificing their lives to kill others (military) but not sacrificing their lives out of guilt and to make a stand against people being wrongfully killed in your name by that military.

He was brainwashed by a cult

 

[Deleted member 577981]

His kids will see his church was a cult unless they too have already been brainwashed

I haven't posted since the first day so I really don't know much more about him than we knew in the very beginning.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

He was brainwashed by a cult

It is genuinely shocking to me how certain everyone has been on this topic even before we had more information. I would have never guessed there would be this intense of feelings/reactions around a person sacrificing themselves in the name of a cause.

I feel like it's something previous generations would have much more ability to comprehend and maybe is indicative of a loss of compassion and selflessness as a society.

But I'm not arguing for certainty in this particular case. I just seems like before there was even information people all had their minds made up in just one direction and I am genuinely surprised about it.


I think it's related in a way to how many people wouldn't even risk their own life for another person anymore. How many times we see someone being assaulted or raped and rather than someone stepping in and risking their own safety to help they film it. I think there's just been a general loss of selflessness that makes this extreme action seem way more extreme than it would if more people were a little further towards that direction.

@TheMaster

 

[K-Bag]

a new height of stupid was reached

Cult like behavior.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

if it hasn't been said already, this guy was an antisemtic piece of shit.

this is great news. hopefully more Hamas fanboys follow suit.

I would like to hear every single anti-semitic quote in context because these days if you think the Jews do anything wrong at all, you can be called anti-Semitic. Even if you're a Jew yourself, then you're a self-hating Jew.

 

[Blayt7hh]

a new height of stupid was reached

More like profound act of love!

 

[Islam Imamate]

a new height of stupid was reached

Some people will look for any reason to spend money on a dumb tattoo.

 

[blackheart]

I love the reactionary cowards acting like this isn't one of the most powerful forms of protest you can possibly engage in, and like similar acts in the past haven't become world renowned moments that echo through time.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

I love the reactionary cowards acting like this isn't one of the most powerful forms of protest you can possibly engage in, and like similar acts in the past haven't become world renowned moments that echo through time.

agreed.

its easier for a Buddhist to see the value in this due to there being no true self that is getting sacrificed and due to the notion of reincarnation opening up the possibilities for future acts of good.

in a judeo Christian context its harder to reconcile as they see the self and this life as a gift from God and our only chance at living a life here in physical form.

two very different theologies with very different outlooks.

 

[scoopj]

I love the reactionary cowards acting like this isn't one of the most powerful forms of protest you can possibly engage in, and like similar acts in the past haven't become world renowned moments that echo through time.

Why is it that virtue signaling often seems to be accompanied by ad hominems directed at the other side?